spawn_e_git wrote:Whilst I understand your point of view there are some things that don't stack up with your argument.
Babatunde wrote:Robin Van Persie will be gone next summer. He is 28 or so and can see he has wasted precious years of his careers surrounded by mediocre losers and an inept manager
Is RVP really that good? Is he a match winner week in week out? In my opinion he's not. He a good quality player with a glass skeleton that can go missing for entire games. If he was that good the vultures would already be circling for him.
He's good but he's not irreplaceable.
Babatunde wrote:How can you justify paying the most expensive ticket prices in world and European football for a team that will at best, be playing in the Europa League and that has zero chance of being competitive for any major trophies?
I can't! I sit down regularly watching games at home with my old man and when we discuss the cost, diving, cheating, crap ref's, none of it makes sense but when I put the shirt on just before I go to the station to meet my mates, I couldn't give a fuck about all that. I can get out, have a laugh (sometimes at the team) and blow off some steam.
If everything was about cost I should have has a vasectomy years ago because kids are a fucking waste of money not to mention a massive pain in the arse.
Babatunde wrote:I support the Arsenal. And I want them to be successful again. I want them to be a team I can be proud of if at least they don't win. I don't mind no trophies so long as there is pride. But there is none. There are players openly stating they wear Spuds shirts.
He's a cock of the highest order and I know it doesn't excuse it but Barn-Door was wearing an Arsenal shirt whilst playing for Citeh and we all pissed ourselves laughing about it. Pat Jennings, Sol Campbel and many other have played for Spuds. It's a shirt, get over it.
I'd rather concentrate on criticising him for being so inconsistent rather than what he wears in his own home.
Babatunde wrote:'Warts and all' is seeing crap players like Steve Morrow and Colin Pates, knowing they are gash but continuing to get behind them because it's your club and you don't really have the capacity to go out and sign a Paul Ince.
We can't buy Messi, Ronaldo, Pato or hold on to Cesc. What's the difference?
Babatunde wrote:I reckon ManYoo players (who have won everything) show more respect and affinity to their fans than Arsenal players.
Do you think Rooney did last year when his "I want to move" tantrum came out?
Jap Stam openly writing in his book about being told to cheat when playing in Europe.
Roy Keane calling them all "Prawn Sandwich Brigade"
I don't see the logic in coming on here and attacking others for what they spend their money on.
It's their prerogative to spend it on what they want.
If you think that Silent Stan will suddenly think "Hang on, there only 25,000 at each game now. I know what, I'll go out and pay £200m for Messi, Pato, Ronnaldo and Xavi" then I think your mistaken.
Mate. With all due respect you've got your wires terribly crossed. Cannot be arsed to go into every little point but instead will address the main errors here.
1. You make the classic fundamentalist absolutist argument of claiming that because I asked for players with passion, that I want Kroenke to spend £200 mil on Pato and Messi. No no no. 100% wrong. I even prefaced this by Clearly stating I wanted 'players with heart'. That costs nothing. I said I found it easier to get behind Colin Pates and Steve Morrow. You decided though, to claim I was after Messi and Pato.
It's like when Wenger decides to react to criticism that fans want better players by claiming we are hankering after £70 mil players. It's wrong and it's misleading.
2. You mention Sol Campbell and Pat Jenning having played for Spuds as mitigation for Diaby. There are several several things wrong with your analogy. First off, Sol and Jennings were both fantastic players for us.
Diaby is a c**t.
Jennings and Sol worked their arses off to prove their worth for the club and were laders. Diaby is a c**t.
Sol Campbell whilst playing for Spuds never admitted openly to wearing a Gooner top when at home. Jennings never admitted to such a thing either.
It's one thing playing for two different clubs, another entirely excusing some c**t who provides nothing for the club and admits to wearing Spud tops when wanking at home.
This is exactly the kind of apologetic mindset I feared, meaning that people will make ready excuses to excuse that c**t Diaby and cheer him on next time he steps out for us. Ask yourself how this dick is earning more than Modric and work out how much in wages he has earned form lying on a physio's table.
Then compare him to Jennings and Campbell again.
3. I never 'attacked' anyone. I was very clear in making the point 'it's your choice if you choose to line their pockets'. If that's attacking to you, then you would not want to see me in a foul mood.
4. The only point I can agree with you on is your final point about the respect showed by Arsenal players. That's subjective point. Then again think about the examples you used: Stam, Roy Keane and Rooney.
Now ask yourself what kind of quality players these were and ask yourself what they contributed to their respective clubs: that's right. They are/all have been great players who have virtually won everything there is to win at club level.
The difference is at Arsenal, you have c**s strutting around like Billy big-bollocks when they can't even take care of Brum in a League cup final!
At least Stam, Rooney and Keane earned the right to act like cocks. At least they gave their fans something back for their investment (trophies and success).
Ask yourself what Diaby, Song, Squillaci, Chamakh, Almunia, Fabianski, Rosicky and co have contributed to Arsenal's history to warrant their scandalous big-headed attitude?
Mentioning Jennings and Campbell in the same breath as Diabolical Diaby is an insult.
Fact is, 90% of the current squad, management and directors will go down as some of the biggest wankers to ever be associated with our great club and the past 3 years will be remembered as some of the most humiliating and shocking of Arsenal's past 30 years. Fact.
Worst start in 58 years, worst defeat in over 100 years, new PL record for chucking an unassailable lead, new CL record for attacking ineptitude, worst defensive record after a commensurate record of any Arsenal side of the past 70 years.
Still. Like I said, if you choose to pay through the nose for this then fair play to you....
