Wenger Out Banner

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:50 pm

phil_mitchell wrote:
tonysaunders wrote:I am of the opinion that, if you want Wenger out this summer, then the banner needs to be displayed now. Pressure needs to be applied early to get the ball rolling. Displaying it on the last day of the season will achieve nothing that summer. Pressure needs to start building and it needs to happen now.

For what it's worth, I believe that the problem at our club is much bigger than just Wenger - although he is not blameless in all of this.
banner is not enough...if you got any balls there should be abuse/objects thrown at the players as they leave the ground....the more vile the abuse the better....the march last year was a COMPLETE JOKE what a wate of time no malice in it and after all that we got COMPLETELY out played and thrashed by villa

You are an odd one. As shit as some players are, most of em try their hardest, the manager is the one who is responsible!

Almunia is a clown · Post by **Almunia is a clown** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:52 pm

worthing_gooner wrote:[

Yeah agree with this. Getting Wenger out is a short sighted solution, the board will just employ another yes man. .

Wenger & the board are two cheeks of the same arse

Getting rid of him would put all the pressure on the board, any serious managerial candidate would demand more than adequate transfer funds.

If the board tried to fleece the fans with a Hughes / Bruce style candidate the support would go missing in droves!!!!

Almunia is a clown · Post by **Almunia is a clown** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:52 pm

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:53 pm

Almunia is a clown wrote:
worthing_gooner wrote:[

Yeah agree with this. Getting Wenger out is a short sighted solution, the board will just employ another yes man. .
Wenger & the board are two cheeks of the same arse Getting rid of him would put all the pressure on the board, any serious managerial candidate would demand more than adequate transfer funds.

If the board tried to fleece the fans with a Hughes / Bruce style candidate the support would go missing in droves!!!!

+1

worthing_gooner · Post by **worthing_gooner** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:56 pm

Almunia is a clown wrote:
worthing_gooner wrote:[

Yeah agree with this. Getting Wenger out is a short sighted solution, the board will just employ another yes man. .
Wenger & the board are two cheeks of the same arse Getting rid of him would put all the pressure on the board, any serious managerial candidate would demand more than adequate transfer funds.

If the board tried to fleece the fans with a Hughes / Bruce style candidate the support would go missing in droves!!!!

Yeah and then what? We drop further and further down the table when some other shit manager comes in? What good is that?

If a banner puts sustained pressure on the board, PHW, Kroenke, Gazidis, they would have to either force the manager to spend money, or sack him.

In addition to that, you'd garner far more support from the media who are still in love with Wenger, and of course many of the semi-AKBs who are wavering in their support, because they don't have to attack their fucking special one but can still call for investment in the squad.

Revgoon89 · Post by **Revgoon89** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:08 pm

Demun210 wrote:Any banner should be made directed at the board....even if Wenger left, you wouldnt see some radical change in the policy of how the team is built. I know these days it's all the rage to blame the manager (and I readily accept that as a manager Wenger has his faults with tactics/team selection etc), but the issue is bigger than Wenger. I don't think if Wenger left you'd see the changes you want to see at Arsenal, and for that reason I think it's worth having a think about who you're aiming your message at.

Man does have a point. However I think both the manager and the board are both accountable in this instance and they both need to have the pressure applied to them right now.

This thread has gone on 87 pages, we have a banner made, so lets actually use it now. Enough talk has been done, get something set in stone and letys make ourselves heard.

admvideogames · Post by **admvideogames** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:26 pm

Well my view is that Wenger is just as responsible, if not more responsible for this mess than the board.

WENGER chose to buy these players (we know the players I'm talking about) and put them on longterm contracts.

WENGER chooses not to strengthen in the positions we need the most, why do we only have one striker of any kind of quality (excluding Henry who will be leaving us in February).

WENGER was unable to motivate the team to beat a NOW RELEGATED Birmingham team - continuing the trophy drought that is the joke of the footballing world.

WENGER plays 4-5-1 at home against teams who we really should be making sport of.

WENGER gave Denilson and now Walcott over 100 appearances for Arsenal despite them being total shite. Ramsey is going to be the next Denilson - mark my words.

WENGER sent out a side that got beaten 8-2 at Old Toilet, like we are fucking Ipswich or Wigan!

The Wenger Out banner is fully justified and hopefully we will see it against Manure in the next game. The board will get theirs and I believe that Kroenke/Gazidis/PHW are utter *word censored* and are also malignant tumours, but the most ferocious and aggressive cancer that threatens our very existence as a top 4, title challenging side is the GIC. Get him out first and if the board fail to appoint an appropriate successor then fuck them out as well. We need to start being more vocal and take action against what our club is turning into. Barely a day goes by without a joke being made at our expense, which is absolutely not the state that our once great club should be in.

Leyton Gooner · Post by **Leyton Gooner** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:42 pm

The most exciting thing about supporting the Arsenal these days is the glimmer of hope that we, the supporters, might be able to force a change at the club. So come on, please let's start actually trying to do it and even if it doesn't work it will at least give us a reason to go to matches (apart from an excuse to have a piss up before and after the game)

Gunnersaurus · Post by **Gunnersaurus** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:46 pm

Good luck men, your time has come.

armchair · Post by **armchair** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:49 pm

Gunnersaurus wrote:Good luck men, your time has come.

Time came and went months ago

Sutch · Post by **Sutch** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:41 pm

We're not the only ones in favour of this, numerous Arsenal facebook pages have been calling for Wenger's head and one is apparently organising a protest as we speak. If this goes ahead, it looks like this divide amongst the fanbase will be nothing compared to what's ahead.

Fuck the soulless AKB/JCLs.

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:53 pm

Wenger's not the problem, it's the cÃºnts above him, that has caused the decline of Arsenal FC

When Wenger goes, if things up stairs do changed the next manager is in the shit as well

we have become a penny pinching club, who sells our assets for Â£25m + and buy bargain basement crap

armchair · Post by **armchair** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:55 pm

Rosie_titters wrote:Wenger's not the problem, it's the cÃºnts above him, that has caused the decline of Arsenal FC

When Wenger goes, if things up stairs do changed the next manager is in the shit as well

we have become a penny pinching club, who sells our assets for Â£25m + and buy bargain basement crap

TeeCee · Post by **TeeCee** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:01 pm

Well it's fairly simple really. We can't 'force' the board out regardless, but we can put enough pressure on the board to sack the manager. If the manager goes, a new man comes in and still spends nothing, then we know it's the board and people can make a decision on whether to renew S/T etc from there but things can only be done one at a time.
The most important thing initially is get a new manager in because someone with discipline, motivation and tactical nous can make a difference without spending any money!!

armchair · Post by **armchair** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:09 pm

TeeCee wrote:Well it's fairly simple really. We can't 'force' the board out regardless, but we can put enough pressure on the board to sack the manager. If the manager goes, a new man comes in and still spends nothing, then we know it's the board and people can make a decision on whether to renew S/T etc from there but things can only be done one at a time.
The most important thing initially is get a new manager in because someone with discipline, motivation and tactical nous can make a difference without spending any money!!

Mate this point has been made time and time again but seems like were just wasting our time trying to get through to some people.

Wanting Wenger out and wanting the board out are not mutually exclusive standpoints. The two opinions go side-by-side.
In my opinion its by FAAAAAR Wengers fault and hes simply gotta go. But that doesn't mean the board are blameless.

But first and foremost WENGER MUST GO