Is this season enough to keep RVP??
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Is this season enough to keep RVP??
This is a season that is seeing us turning into a laughing stock for the following reasons:
Spurs above us and well clear playing better football as well (I hate having to even say that and never thought I would)
Being smashed at Man Utd with an awful display
Conceding 4 at Blackburn
Continually losing leads and ultimately matches
Defending worse than any Arsenal team I have ever seen (been going since 1987) and no signs of it getting any better either
A manager who picks players out of form and not those who deserve to play
A manager with a one style fits all approach to matches despite not having the players to carry it out
If I was RVP I would go and play for a club with ambitions of competing and winning trophies rather than stay and carry a team to 5th place at best
Spurs above us and well clear playing better football as well (I hate having to even say that and never thought I would)
Being smashed at Man Utd with an awful display
Conceding 4 at Blackburn
Continually losing leads and ultimately matches
Defending worse than any Arsenal team I have ever seen (been going since 1987) and no signs of it getting any better either
A manager who picks players out of form and not those who deserve to play
A manager with a one style fits all approach to matches despite not having the players to carry it out
If I was RVP I would go and play for a club with ambitions of competing and winning trophies rather than stay and carry a team to 5th place at best
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Re: Is this season enough to keep RVP??
None of the above can be attributed to Our Great Leader and are solely and only the fault of the "Board"jrthgooner wrote:This is a season that is seeing us turning into a laughing stock for the following reasons:
Spurs above us and well clear playing better football as well (I hate having to even say that and never thought I would)
Being smashed at Man Utd with an awful display
Conceding 4 at Blackburn
Continually losing leads and ultimately matches
Defending worse than any Arsenal team I have ever seen (been going since 1987) and no signs of it getting any better either
A manager who picks players out of form and not those who deserve to play
A manager with a one style fits all approach to matches despite not having the players to carry it out
If I was RVP I would go and play for a club with ambitions of competing and winning trophies rather than stay and carry a team to 5th place at best
FACT!
Absolutely not!Is this season enough to keep RVP??
If Selling Cesc and Nasri wasn't enough...
and replacing them with players of inferior quality wasn't enough...
and pocketing a profit even though we're desperate for quality players wasn't enough...
and if the worst away form for half a century wasn't enough...
and if slowly - and seemingly inevitably - moving towards at least a season out of the Champions League wasn't enough...
then, surely showing zero ambition in January by keeping the chequebook firmly closed, has all but put the final nail in the coffin?
Our only hope is that his pride at being captain, together with a settled family life, is enough for him to put ambition (and the trophies and financial benefits that brings) to one side, and sign a new contract
It seems a lost cause really... but I guess you never know
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i agree with what everyone says here, but i'd just like to point out one small factor:
what if vP's injury record is such that the big teams won't really consider paying top dollar for him and big wages as well? if you were a big club like madrid or barcelona or munich for example, would you pay many millions of pounds and 100k+ a week for a 29 year old who before 2011 couldn't manage a few months without a long term injury? i can't see van persie playing much beyond 33 years old as well... wouldn't it be better to spend that money in high quality younger players who can actually stay fit, like hazard, goetze, cavani, lavezzi, etc?
it's just a thought that came to my mind, maybe i'm talking rubbish here.
what if vP's injury record is such that the big teams won't really consider paying top dollar for him and big wages as well? if you were a big club like madrid or barcelona or munich for example, would you pay many millions of pounds and 100k+ a week for a 29 year old who before 2011 couldn't manage a few months without a long term injury? i can't see van persie playing much beyond 33 years old as well... wouldn't it be better to spend that money in high quality younger players who can actually stay fit, like hazard, goetze, cavani, lavezzi, etc?
it's just a thought that came to my mind, maybe i'm talking rubbish here.
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I see what you mean but with only a year left on his contract his price would be relatively small compared to if he had 5 years left, so i can imagine them taking a gamble on him. Either that or let him see his contract out and get him for free is a definate possibilitybrazilianGOONER wrote:i agree with what everyone says here, but i'd just like to point out one small factor:
what if vP's injury record is such that the big teams won't really consider paying top dollar for him and big wages as well? if you were a big club like madrid or barcelona or munich for example, would you pay many millions of pounds and 100k+ a week for a 29 year old who before 2011 couldn't manage a few months without a long term injury? i can't see van persie playing much beyond 33 years old as well... wouldn't it be better to spend that money in high quality younger players who can actually stay fit, like hazard, goetze, cavani, lavezzi, etc?
it's just a thought that came to my mind, maybe i'm talking rubbish here.
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If you put yourself in RvP's shoes: your at the top of your game, probably as good as any striker at the moment, you want to win things........why would you stay?
I'm sure he likes London, is settled with his family, has a good degree of loyalty for the club and AW (and we've kidnapped his son) but is that enough?
If I was him I'd realise that if I wanted to move then this is the time (once I'm 30 clubs will look at me differently). I want to be succesful. Do I think the manager/club are going to do the things that are necessary for me to be successful? Fuck off! Do you think I'm blind and stupid?
The only saving grace for us may be that the very top clubs that RvP may be attracted to already have plenty of good, expensive, contracted players and, please God, he wouldn't go to Manure!
I'm sure he likes London, is settled with his family, has a good degree of loyalty for the club and AW (and we've kidnapped his son) but is that enough?
If I was him I'd realise that if I wanted to move then this is the time (once I'm 30 clubs will look at me differently). I want to be succesful. Do I think the manager/club are going to do the things that are necessary for me to be successful? Fuck off! Do you think I'm blind and stupid?
The only saving grace for us may be that the very top clubs that RvP may be attracted to already have plenty of good, expensive, contracted players and, please God, he wouldn't go to Manure!
You wouldn't, and neither would Cesc and Nasri.SpanishJoe wrote:If you put yourself in RvP's shoes: your at the top of your game, probably as good as any striker at the moment, you want to win things........why would you stay?
They get one career... one shot... one opportunity.. (fuck me, I sound like Eminem )... and there's no way they should be expected to waste that so they can indulge Wenger and his failed experiment.
We're crying out for fresh input. We need a new direction.
I'd say we went stale a few years back, so I suppose that means we're now stinking to high heaven with mould... shame Stan can't smell it from Colorado
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You used to be such a wide-eyed young optimist...it makes me sad to see your inexorable journey to hardened cynic.g88ner wrote:You wouldn't, and neither would Cesc and Nasri.SpanishJoe wrote:If you put yourself in RvP's shoes: your at the top of your game, probably as good as any striker at the moment, you want to win things........why would you stay?
They get one career... one shot... one opportunity.. (fuck me, I sound like Eminem )... and there's no way they should be expected to waste that so they can indulge Wenger and his failed experiment.
We're crying out for fresh input. We need a new direction.
I'd say we went stale a few years back, so I suppose that means we're now stinking to high heaven with mould... shame Stan can't smell it from Colorado
Actually, forget that....I love to see it!
arseofacrow wrote:You used to be such a wide-eyed young optimist...it makes me sad to see your inexorable journey to hardened cynic.g88ner wrote:You wouldn't, and neither would Cesc and Nasri.SpanishJoe wrote:If you put yourself in RvP's shoes: your at the top of your game, probably as good as any striker at the moment, you want to win things........why would you stay?
They get one career... one shot... one opportunity.. (fuck me, I sound like Eminem )... and there's no way they should be expected to waste that so they can indulge Wenger and his failed experiment.
We're crying out for fresh input. We need a new direction.
I'd say we went stale a few years back, so I suppose that means we're now stinking to high heaven with mould... shame Stan can't smell it from Colorado
Actually, forget that....I love to see it!
Ah, it's okay - I'm still an optimist at heart; I have a sneaky feeling we might get to the Champions League final this year.
Just a shame Goetze will be cup tied
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Was just thinking the same as i read that postarseofacrow wrote:You used to be such a wide-eyed young optimist...it makes me sad to see your inexorable journey to hardened cynic.g88ner wrote:You wouldn't, and neither would Cesc and Nasri.SpanishJoe wrote:If you put yourself in RvP's shoes: your at the top of your game, probably as good as any striker at the moment, you want to win things........why would you stay?
They get one career... one shot... one opportunity.. (fuck me, I sound like Eminem )... and there's no way they should be expected to waste that so they can indulge Wenger and his failed experiment.
We're crying out for fresh input. We need a new direction.
I'd say we went stale a few years back, so I suppose that means we're now stinking to high heaven with mould... shame Stan can't smell it from Colorado
Actually, forget that....I love to see it!
Welcome to the miserable old bastards club g88ner
flash gunner wrote:Was just thinking the same as i read that postarseofacrow wrote:You used to be such a wide-eyed young optimist...it makes me sad to see your inexorable journey to hardened cynic.g88ner wrote:You wouldn't, and neither would Cesc and Nasri.SpanishJoe wrote:If you put yourself in RvP's shoes: your at the top of your game, probably as good as any striker at the moment, you want to win things........why would you stay?
They get one career... one shot... one opportunity.. (fuck me, I sound like Eminem )... and there's no way they should be expected to waste that so they can indulge Wenger and his failed experiment.
We're crying out for fresh input. We need a new direction.
I'd say we went stale a few years back, so I suppose that means we're now stinking to high heaven with mould... shame Stan can't smell it from Colorado
Actually, forget that....I love to see it!
Welcome to the miserable old bastards club
Read my post above yours Flash... I'm still the deluded optimist I always was, mate
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Your use of shows youre in the miserable old bastard club or Clique as its now called Welcomeg88ner wrote:flash gunner wrote:Was just thinking the same as i read that postarseofacrow wrote:You used to be such a wide-eyed young optimist...it makes me sad to see your inexorable journey to hardened cynic.g88ner wrote:You wouldn't, and neither would Cesc and Nasri.SpanishJoe wrote:If you put yourself in RvP's shoes: your at the top of your game, probably as good as any striker at the moment, you want to win things........why would you stay?
They get one career... one shot... one opportunity.. (fuck me, I sound like Eminem )... and there's no way they should be expected to waste that so they can indulge Wenger and his failed experiment.
We're crying out for fresh input. We need a new direction.
I'd say we went stale a few years back, so I suppose that means we're now stinking to high heaven with mould... shame Stan can't smell it from Colorado
Actually, forget that....I love to see it!
Welcome to the miserable old bastards club
Read my post above yours Flash... I'm still the deluded optimist I always was, mate