Euro 2012

[DB10GOONER]

Amazing hypocrisy from DB. So Gooners cannot surely continue to worship TA6 (convicted drink driver), Merson (drug addict and drink driver), Ian Wright (in and out of nick as a youngster), Paul Davis (broke Cockerill's jaw), GG (bungs), TH14 (cheated Ireland out of WC2010)......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz????????

DOUBLE STANDARDS.

Amazing stupidity from frankbutcher. The ultimate generalisation and cop out answer. The uninformed generalising equivalent of "yeah that Policeman was corrupt - they are all corrupt!"

Unfortunately, your obvious anger at me for banning you for racism is once again exposing your limited intellect. You say "double standards" yet you know nothing of what I think about those players you named.

How can you have a pop at players that don't play for Arsenal yet back to the hilt our own "naughty" boys?? Makes no sense. The rest of your subsequent post makes no sense to me.

BTW I am annoyed at you for libelling me. I am not a racist. You, however refer to the likes of Herd as coming from the land of ladyboys. Racist?? YES. FACT. Keep your mouth shut, and you'll get no problems from me. Continue to shout it off, and I'll have this site taken down permanently. FACT.

Ok. That's it. Let's just clarify. You are making a threat. Yes?

[Vinny1967]

Stand Back..........I got this.
















Great thread Mc

[frankbutcher]

Amazing hypocrisy from DB. So Gooners cannot surely continue to worship TA6 (convicted drink driver), Merson (drug addict and drink driver), Ian Wright (in and out of nick as a youngster), Paul Davis (broke Cockerill's jaw), GG (bungs), TH14 (cheated Ireland out of WC2010)......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz????????

DOUBLE STANDARDS.

Amazing stupidity from frankbutcher. The ultimate generalisation and cop out answer. The uninformed generalising equivalent of "yeah that Policeman was corrupt - they are all corrupt!"

Unfortunately, your obvious anger at me for banning you for racism is once again exposing your limited intellect. You say "double standards" yet you know nothing of what I think about those players you named.

How can you have a pop at players that don't play for Arsenal yet back to the hilt our own "naughty" boys?? Makes no sense. The rest of your subsequent post makes no sense to me.

BTW I am annoyed at you for libelling me. I am not a racist. You, however refer to the likes of Herd as coming from the land of ladyboys. Racist?? YES. FACT. Keep your mouth shut, and you'll get no problems from me. Continue to shout it off, and I'll have this site taken down permanently. FACT.

Ok. That's it. Let's just clarify. You are making a threat. Yes?

If you keep libelling me, I'll have to defend myself. FACT.

[mcdowell42]

Stand Back..........I got this.
















Great thread Mc

Finally some appreciation

[Vinny1967]

Stand Back..........I got this.
















Great thread Mc

Finally some appreciation

And it isn't even your thread. I just found it so good I assumed it was yours

[DB10GOONER]

Amazing hypocrisy from DB. So Gooners cannot surely continue to worship TA6 (convicted drink driver), Merson (drug addict and drink driver), Ian Wright (in and out of nick as a youngster), Paul Davis (broke Cockerill's jaw), GG (bungs), TH14 (cheated Ireland out of WC2010)......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz????????

DOUBLE STANDARDS.

Amazing stupidity from frankbutcher. The ultimate generalisation and cop out answer. The uninformed generalising equivalent of "yeah that Policeman was corrupt - they are all corrupt!"

Unfortunately, your obvious anger at me for banning you for racism is once again exposing your limited intellect. You say "double standards" yet you know nothing of what I think about those players you named.

How can you have a pop at players that don't play for Arsenal yet back to the hilt our own "naughty" boys?? Makes no sense. The rest of your subsequent post makes no sense to me.

BTW I am annoyed at you for libelling me. I am not a racist. You, however refer to the likes of Herd as coming from the land of ladyboys. Racist?? YES. FACT. Keep your mouth shut, and you'll get no problems from me. Continue to shout it off, and I'll have this site taken down permanently. FACT.

Ok. That's it. Let's just clarify. You are making a threat. Yes?

If you keep libelling me, I'll have to defend myself. FACT.

You have not been libeled. You made racist comments and you were warned over them. You were then abusive to a mod and made another racist comment. You were banned. Now - are you threatening to have the Gooner forum shut down? Answer carefully.

[Top Londoner]

Amazing hypocrisy from DB. So Gooners cannot surely continue to worship TA6 (convicted drink driver), Merson (drug addict and drink driver), Ian Wright (in and out of nick as a youngster), Paul Davis (broke Cockerill's jaw), GG (bungs), TH14 (cheated Ireland out of WC2010)......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz????????

DOUBLE STANDARDS.

Amazing stupidity from frankbutcher. The ultimate generalisation and cop out answer. The uninformed generalising equivalent of "yeah that Policeman was corrupt - they are all corrupt!"

Unfortunately, your obvious anger at me for banning you for racism is once again exposing your limited intellect. You say "double standards" yet you know nothing of what I think about those players you named.

How can you have a pop at players that don't play for Arsenal yet back to the hilt our own "naughty" boys?? Makes no sense. The rest of your subsequent post makes no sense to me.

BTW I am annoyed at you for libelling me. I am not a racist. You, however refer to the likes of Herd as coming from the land of ladyboys. Racist?? YES. FACT. Keep your mouth shut, and you'll get no problems from me. Continue to shout it off, and I'll have this site taken down permanently. FACT.

Ok. That's it. Let's just clarify. You are making a threat. Yes?

Both of you, please.
Differing views are what make this site a daily requirement.
If Frank was a racist DB10, there is no way the bloke got to make so many posts.
For the sake of pertinent deliberation, please bury the hatchet men.
Frank ain't racist and DB10 is not reactionary.

[DB10GOONER]

Both of you, please.
Differing views are what make this site a daily requirement.
If Frank was a racist DB10, there is no way the bloke got to make so many posts.
For the sake of pertinent deliberation, please bury the hatchet men.
Frank ain't racist and DB10 is not reactionary.

Mate, I appreciate you are trying to keep the peace here and that's laudable. But what frankbutcher wrote was racist. There is no getting around that. Read those comments again and ask yourself "If I was a journalist and wrote that in a national newspaper, what would be the outcome?".

Now frankbutcher is threatening to have the forum shut down? This is the carry on of a spoilt child. If he makes another threat he will be banned again. It's that simple.

[Top Londoner]

Frank.

You see the response from DB10.

Start over again mate

[frankbutcher]

I was not racist. I expressed my personal experience of the Irish. I did not state any facts, other than those that are so. i.e the Irish are a drain on the British (we have bailed Ireland out of financial trouble as part of the EU). You posted an insulting and inflammatory warning. I responded with a tongue-in-cheek response which you should have seen the humour in. You subsequently sent me PMs stating that I was a racist, and that you would ban me at any opportunity. I dis-proved your claims that I was racist by PM. You then brought up the claims again in this thread. I responded. If you continue to make false claims, I won't let that continue. As always, you give one side to the story. I was happy for this to stay on PM. You couldn't help yourself. I can see that you are trying to set me up for a ban. If you want to ban me, you will. You have stated that you have GoonerEd's backing. Fine. I fail to see what this is all about. There is plenty of banter on this Forum, including sterotypes of the English (EDL Followers, rapists and murderers...."Engerland", hooligans). People from Brazil and Thailand are bantered for the "ladyboys" that supposedly dominate the nation. Diaby and Song are ridiculed for being "thick".... I know what the connotations are from these claims, so don't deny them. We could go on for hours. In essence, I have put forward some strong views, which you disagree with. They are not racist, but you claim they are. Personal grievance by PM is now in the open as a result of your further posts in this thread.

I'm happy to go back to PM.

[Top Londoner]

I'm outta here. >Blush<. Fool for getting involved.

[DB10GOONER]

I was not racist. I expressed my personal experience of the Irish. I did not state any facts, other than those that are so. i.e the Irish are a drain on the British (we have bailed Ireland out of financial trouble as part of the EU). You posted an insulting and inflammatory warning. I responded with a tongue-in-cheek response which you should have seen the humour in. You subsequently sent me PMs stating that I was a racist, and that you would ban me at any opportunity. I dis-proved your claims that I was racist by PM. You then brought up the claims again in this thread. I responded. If you continue to make false claims, I won't let that continue. As always, you give one side to the story. I was happy for this to stay on PM. You couldn't help yourself. I can see that you are trying to set me up for a ban. If you want to ban me, you will. You have stated that you have GoonerEd's backing. Fine. I fail to see what this is all about. There is plenty of banter on this Forum, including sterotypes of the English (EDL Followers, rapists and murderers...."Engerland", hooligans). People from Brazil and Thailand are bantered for the "ladyboys" that supposedly dominate the nation. Diaby and Song are ridiculed for being "thick".... I know what the connotations are from these claims, so don't deny them. We could go on for hours. In essence, I have put forward some strong views, which you disagree with. They are not racist, but you claim they are. Personal grievance by PM is now in the open as a result of your further posts in this thread.

I'm happy to go back to PM.

Firstly, you don't seem to understand what racism is. You seem to think you can basically say what you like about a race and that's fine as you didn't state that those comments were facts?! Are you really that badly educated or socially unaware? Really? I cannot believe in this day and age that someone cannot understand what is racist and what is not.

At it's most basic, written racism is presenting comment about a clearly identified race that stereotypes all people of that race in a negative manner. Your comments WERE RACIST. Do you understand?

Now you are trying to deflect attention from yourself by implying that anyone that commented on Song and Diaby as "thick" are racist? You read comments about their footballing skills and assume they are racially motivated? How?! Why?! That really says a whole lot more about the way you view them than the way anyone else does.

Don't know why you mentioned GoonerEd in this. He doesn't own the Gooner. I ran your comments by Mike Francis who owns the Gooner and he fully supported my stand on the issue.

Now, you have threatened to have the Gooner forum shut down. I think you better clarify that comment because if you are serious about that then I will be banning you. We do not accept threats of any kind on here. The choice is yours. Decide.

[frankbutcher]

I was not racist. I expressed my personal experience of the Irish. I did not state any facts, other than those that are so. i.e the Irish are a drain on the British (we have bailed Ireland out of financial trouble as part of the EU). You posted an insulting and inflammatory warning. I responded with a tongue-in-cheek response which you should have seen the humour in. You subsequently sent me PMs stating that I was a racist, and that you would ban me at any opportunity. I dis-proved your claims that I was racist by PM. You then brought up the claims again in this thread. I responded. If you continue to make false claims, I won't let that continue. As always, you give one side to the story. I was happy for this to stay on PM. You couldn't help yourself. I can see that you are trying to set me up for a ban. If you want to ban me, you will. You have stated that you have GoonerEd's backing. Fine. I fail to see what this is all about. There is plenty of banter on this Forum, including sterotypes of the English (EDL Followers, rapists and murderers...."Engerland", hooligans). People from Brazil and Thailand are bantered for the "ladyboys" that supposedly dominate the nation. Diaby and Song are ridiculed for being "thick".... I know what the connotations are from these claims, so don't deny them. We could go on for hours. In essence, I have put forward some strong views, which you disagree with. They are not racist, but you claim they are. Personal grievance by PM is now in the open as a result of your further posts in this thread.

I'm happy to go back to PM.

Firstly, you don't seem to understand what racism is. You seem to think you can basically say what you like about a race and that's fine as you didn't state that those comments were facts?! Are you really that badly educated or socially unaware? Really? I cannot believe in this day and age that someone cannot understand what is racist and what is not.

At it's most basic, written racism is presenting comment about a clearly identified race that stereotypes all people of that race in a negative manner. Your comments WERE RACIST. Do you understand?

Now you are trying to deflect attention from yourself by implying that anyone that commented on Song and Diaby as "thick" are racist? You read comments about their footballing skills and assume they are racially motivated? How?! Why?! That really says a whole lot more about the way you view them than the way anyone else does.

Don't know why you mentioned GoonerEd in this. He doesn't own the Gooner. I ran your comments by Mike Francis who owns the Gooner and he fully supported my stand on the issue.

Now, you have threatened to have the Gooner forum shut down. I think you better clarify that comment because if you are serious about that then I will be banning you. We do not accept threats of any kind on here. The choice is yours. Decide.

My experience of the Irish people I have met being feckless and arrogant and loud-mouths..... Can that be racist? For one, I did not state that all Irish people are anything. I stated what I had found the Irish people I have met to be. That's fine in my book. I commented that this was just my personal experience. I didn't state a sweeping fact. I described my experience. You might not like that, but I don't care what you think. I also stated that the Irish are a drain on England. You claimed by PM that this was racist. How? The UK bailed out Ireland to the tune of Billions. FACT. I think you're the one that doesn't understand racism. You are failing to look at the actual words i wrote. All you have idenitifed is that I am not a fan of the Irish, and you as an Irishman object to that. This isn't about racism. This is about you hearing something you didn't like.

[arseofacrow]

Retract the Song/Diaby remark mate. You have no evidence to support this, and only suggests your own prejudices.

[DB10GOONER]

I was not racist. I expressed my personal experience of the Irish. I did not state any facts, other than those that are so. i.e the Irish are a drain on the British (we have bailed Ireland out of financial trouble as part of the EU). You posted an insulting and inflammatory warning. I responded with a tongue-in-cheek response which you should have seen the humour in. You subsequently sent me PMs stating that I was a racist, and that you would ban me at any opportunity. I dis-proved your claims that I was racist by PM. You then brought up the claims again in this thread. I responded. If you continue to make false claims, I won't let that continue. As always, you give one side to the story. I was happy for this to stay on PM. You couldn't help yourself. I can see that you are trying to set me up for a ban. If you want to ban me, you will. You have stated that you have GoonerEd's backing. Fine. I fail to see what this is all about. There is plenty of banter on this Forum, including sterotypes of the English (EDL Followers, rapists and murderers...."Engerland", hooligans). People from Brazil and Thailand are bantered for the "ladyboys" that supposedly dominate the nation. Diaby and Song are ridiculed for being "thick".... I know what the connotations are from these claims, so don't deny them. We could go on for hours. In essence, I have put forward some strong views, which you disagree with. They are not racist, but you claim they are. Personal grievance by PM is now in the open as a result of your further posts in this thread.

I'm happy to go back to PM.

Firstly, you don't seem to understand what racism is. You seem to think you can basically say what you like about a race and that's fine as you didn't state that those comments were facts?! Are you really that badly educated or socially unaware? Really? I cannot believe in this day and age that someone cannot understand what is racist and what is not.

At it's most basic, written racism is presenting comment about a clearly identified race that stereotypes all people of that race in a negative manner. Your comments WERE RACIST. Do you understand?

Now you are trying to deflect attention from yourself by implying that anyone that commented on Song and Diaby as "thick" are racist? You read comments about their footballing skills and assume they are racially motivated? How?! Why?! That really says a whole lot more about the way you view them than the way anyone else does.

Don't know why you mentioned GoonerEd in this. He doesn't own the Gooner. I ran your comments by Mike Francis who owns the Gooner and he fully supported my stand on the issue.

Now, you have threatened to have the Gooner forum shut down. I think you better clarify that comment because if you are serious about that then I will be banning you. We do not accept threats of any kind on here. The choice is yours. Decide.

My experience of the Irish people I have met being feckless and arrogant and loud-mouths..... Can that be racist? For one, I did not state that all Irish people are anything. I stated what I had found the Irish people I have met to be. That's fine in my book. I commented that this was just my personal experience. I didn't state a sweeping fact. I described my experience. You might not like that, but I don't care what you think. I also stated that the Irish are a drain on England. You claimed by PM that this was racist. How? The UK bailed out Ireland to the tune of Billions. FACT. I think you're the one that doesn't understand racism. You are failing to look at the actual words i wrote. All you have idenitifed is that I am not a fan of the Irish, and you as an Irishman object to that. This isn't about racism. This is about you hearing something you didn't like.

No, what you actually wrote was;

"My experience of the Irish is that they are are largely feckless, arrogant, un-trustworthy cretins"

I do not see where you have qualified that by saying anything about "the ones you've met".

The drain on England comment? In your original post you mentioned nothing about bail outs. You just stated "The Irish are nothing but a drain on England."

These comments followed your petulant little tirade about how you were sick of the Irish etc. Your comments were sweeping generalisations, motivated by racial hate. Like most people that spout racist filth you see nothing wrong in what you've said.

Now I am done discussing what you wrote, we have all seen what you wrote. Clarify your threat to have the forum shut down. You have made the threat. Do you stand by that?