Tottenham away pubs etc!!!

[mikeyb772001]

Drunk at the Wig the last 2 years but it’s a ball ache getting the train and then having to walk up the dump of a high road.

Best way was to drink at Finsbury, wait for Escort and the mongs to leave. Then get the buss outside the pins. Stops by the way away entrance

[TheCook]

Stay away from the Twelve Pins if you don't want to get stuck in the escort and then miss the kick off, and probably about £20 worth of your ticket price before you get into your seat.

However, if you want to look like a big man while walking down Seven Sisters round surrounded by coppers with the MP helipcopter hovering overhead, then you will love it. There's nowt as tough as football fans safely ensconced in a police escort!

Why would you allow yourself to get stuck in a police escort ! It must be soo easy to dodge it, either leave the twelve pins slightly early or go to other boozers in the area. No gooner in their right mind would wear colours, so theres no way of the police knowing where you're going.

Well, I think it's a 'right of passage' thing - I recommend everyone does it at least once. Part of the whole derby day experience.

[mattyb]

Stay away from the Twelve Pins if you don't want to get stuck in the escort and then miss the kick off, and probably about £20 worth of your ticket price before you get into your seat.

However, if you want to look like a big man while walking down Seven Sisters round surrounded by coppers with the MP helipcopter hovering overhead, then you will love it. There's nowt as tough as football fans safely ensconced in a police escort!

Why would you allow yourself to get stuck in a police escort ! It must be soo easy to dodge it, either leave the twelve pins slightly early or go to other boozers in the area. No gooner in their right mind would wear colours, so theres no way of the police knowing where you're going.

Well, I think it's a 'right of passage' thing - I recommend everyone does it at least once. Part of the whole derby day experience.

not been to whl since the late eighties when I was 14...now its my 14 yo sons first nld away. Still undecided if we should go alone to the swamp or en mass ??

Safety in numbers ..or ..alone on the low down ??

[Herd]

Its a lovely pub in a area that used to be bedsit junkie land but has morphed into crouch end south !

[WEWEREINVINCIBLE!]

Nice and easy for me. Dont have to venture far, stay local in chingford then 5/10 min cab to the ground.

[SPARKSY]

There's a pub right outside Northumberland Park train station ( Northumberland Arms?). We tend to go there. It no trouble in there but as always, the golden rule is not to wear your colours as you're asking for a whack, which is ok if there are a few of you but not so clever if only a few.

Remember going in there before the 2004 championship game. Gooners took over the pub, flags up at the windows and loads of noise inside. They were really hating it outside.
Got escorted up Park Lane which was an event in itself. Prob a good job we did as it would have been very messy!!

Saying that you could always try any of the pubs along the High Road towards the Angel, Edmonton. You'll get a nice welcome there!.

[TheCook]

Stay away from the Twelve Pins if you don't want to get stuck in the escort and then miss the kick off, and probably about £20 worth of your ticket price before you get into your seat.

However, if you want to look like a big man while walking down Seven Sisters round surrounded by coppers with the MP helipcopter hovering overhead, then you will love it. There's nowt as tough as football fans safely ensconced in a police escort!

Why would you allow yourself to get stuck in a police escort ! It must be soo easy to dodge it, either leave the twelve pins slightly early or go to other boozers in the area. No gooner in their right mind would wear colours, so theres no way of the police knowing where you're going.

Well, I think it's a 'right of passage' thing - I recommend everyone does it at least once. Part of the whole derby day experience.

not been to whl since the late eighties when I was 14...now its my 14 yo sons first nld away. Still undecided if we should go alone to the swamp or en mass ??

Safety in numbers ..or ..alone on the low down ??

Get in there early, before 3.30 as you have your boy with you. It's between 3.30 and KO time that it gets more difficult to get in without incident.

[SPARKSY]

Stay away from the Twelve Pins if you don't want to get stuck in the escort and then miss the kick off, and probably about £20 worth of your ticket price before you get into your seat.

However, if you want to look like a big man while walking down Seven Sisters round surrounded by coppers with the MP helipcopter hovering overhead, then you will love it. There's nowt as tough as football fans safely ensconced in a police escort!

Why would you allow yourself to get stuck in a police escort ! It must be soo easy to dodge it, either leave the twelve pins slightly early or go to other boozers in the area. No gooner in their right mind would wear colours, so theres no way of the police knowing where you're going.

Well, I think it's a 'right of passage' thing - I recommend everyone does it at least once. Part of the whole derby day experience.

not been to whl since the late eighties when I was 14...now its my 14 yo sons first nld away. Still undecided if we should go alone to the swamp or en mass ??

Safety in numbers ..or ..alone on the low down ??

Get in there early, before 3.30 as you have your boy with you. It's between 3.30 and KO time that it gets more difficult to get in without incident.

If you have your boy, def get in a bit early. Being a 4pm ko, the pubs will be emptying just before that and the low life over there start getting all lairy.
Same coming out, it may be better for you to leave 5 mins early as the tough "**** Army" like to congregate on the corner of the Park Lane and shout about how hard they are, especially when they outnumber us 5 to 1. WANKERS!

[Perryashburtongroves]

My washing machine's packed up. So if the local scum are still rioting or setting fire to and looting their own hovels; can anyone pick me up a new one, please? I've got a Samsung at the moment but quite fancy a Bosch or Indesit- with built in drier,if possible.

[mattyb]

Stay away from the Twelve Pins if you don't want to get stuck in the escort and then miss the kick off, and probably about £20 worth of your ticket price before you get into your seat.

However, if you want to look like a big man while walking down Seven Sisters round surrounded by coppers with the MP helipcopter hovering overhead, then you will love it. There's nowt as tough as football fans safely ensconced in a police escort!

Why would you allow yourself to get stuck in a police escort ! It must be soo easy to dodge it, either leave the twelve pins slightly early or go to other boozers in the area. No gooner in their right mind would wear colours, so theres no way of the police knowing

Well, I think it's a 'right of passage' thing - I recommend everyone does it at least once. Part of the whole derby day experience.

not been to whl since the late eighties when I was 14...now its my 14 yo sons first nld away. Still undecided if we should go alone to the swamp or en mass ??

Safety in numbers ..or ..alone on the low down ??

Get in there early, before 3.30 as you have your boy with you. It's between 3.30 and KO time that it gets more difficult to get in without incident.

cheers for the advice. .now to convince the boy. ..

[DB10GOONER]

If you have your boy, def get in a bit early. Being a 4pm ko, the pubs will be emptying just before that and the low life over there start getting all lairy.
Same coming out, it may be better for you to leave 5 mins early as the tough "**** Army" like to congregate on the corner of the Park Lane and shout about how hard they are, especially when they outnumber us 5 to 1. WANKERS!

Ah, yes... the legendary scum "superfirm".

Only attacks in numbers and only attacks scarfers and women, especially if they have kids with them. Absolute furburgers every single one of them.

[JMascis666]

The superfirm that has been turned over more than once in Europe this season.

[MK Gould]

We wore no colours (absolutely essential in my view as no point in being a magnet for unwelcome attention!), drank near Finsbury Park and caught the 259 direct to the ground. No problem at all before the game...except when I heard some muppet being interviewed on TV and saying that he hadn't seen any Arsenal fans all day. I just couldn't resist telling him that he'd seen one now...although even then he tried to "out" me to the assembled neanderthals waiting nearby!

And no problems during the game...loving the 15 mins of "49 unbeaten" after the final whistle !

I'd agree with what everyone says about the dangers on exit. One of our group came out the ground still singing - and was immediately (and rightly!) told to shut the f*ck up by a battle hardened copper. Huge number of swamp dwellers waiting on the corner, and as so many have said in years gone by, they couldn't give a toss about how old you are, whether you are male or female, firm or scarfer, as far as they are concerned every gooner is fair game. Strangely, the main thing that did was gave my boys a heightened sense of "oneness" and community with other gooners which you don't always get sharing the Emirates with day trippers!

From that moment on it was a case of using street sense to duck and dive our way clear of trouble, and we ended up sat at a bus stop while the madness continued around us.

Did they look like a superfirm...? er, 100% no. I don't think I saw one individual who I wouldn't have fancied my chances with face to face. And was it as bad as "back in the day"? I didn't think so...although our away allocation then was much larger so you didn't feel so isolated. To be honest, what makes a visit to SHL so shocking now is the contrast with the normal matchday experience on our travels. But in saying that, probably little different to what Sunderland fans experience at Newcastle, or Liverpool at United.

I thought that the OB in general deserve great credit for the protection they gave those who decided to walk back up to Seven Sisters. They reluctantly accepted threats and posturing from a distance but immediately jumped on any sign of real trouble. And the closest I saw to real trouble was when our own firm came past - looking more than pleased with themselves !

One thing I don't understand though is why they don't just keep us in for half hour and then do a proper police escort (for those that want it) back up Tottenham High Road. Their way of policing was more to let everyone mix and then manage the consqeuences. Don't know why they don't do more to prevent the mixing in the first place.

[armchair]

We wore no colours (absolutely essential in my view as no point in being a magnet for unwelcome attention!), drank near Finsbury Park and caught the 259 direct to the ground. No problem at all before the game...except when I heard some muppet being interviewed on TV and saying that he hadn't seen any Arsenal fans all day. I just couldn't resist telling him that he'd seen one now...although even then he tried to "out" me to the assembled neanderthals waiting nearby!

Yes mate thats what we did.
Blackstock - Pins - Fullback - Blackstock, then bus to swamp.

You mean this firm...

[clockender1]

Strangely, the main thing that did was gave my boys a heightened sense of "oneness" and community with other gooners which you don't always get sharing the Emirates with day trippers!

And the closest I saw to real trouble was when our own firm came past - looking more than pleased with themselves !

One thing I don't understand though is why they don't just keep us in for half hour and then do a proper police escort (for those that want it) back up Tottenham High Road. Their way of policing was more to let everyone mix and then manage the consqeuences. Don't know why they don't do more to prevent the mixing in the first place.

not strange at all - thats the 'rite of passage' the others were talking of - total strangers watching your back, even if its only a "leggit !" . and the laughs afterwards that you made it when you're safe on the train or tucked up in a nice west end pub.

I went away with Chelsea a few times with some slough mates in the 80's for a laugh - even then Chelsea had it sorted, no one left the paddock or stand until the lads who were up for it left first to clear the scum off streets and protect the old, women and kids. most clubs policing would let anyone one out on their own but not a big bunch of pissed up lads which is what they'd sussed.

then all us scarfers would leave as one unit, half to the coaches the rest to the train while their proper firm would bring up the back.

you'd hear the shouts and broken glass up ahead, and occasionally the big lads at the back would steam round you and disappear down a side street. ...

very different to Arsenal away where everyone just pissed off to the train or their cars etc. on their own.

I can only think the spud policing policy has always been to encourage away fans NOT to come to their hovel.