Goodbye Sagna

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I'll always remember him for being the epitome of a professional: never once heard about him off the pitch, never once saw him give anything less than 110% on it.

Even though he's leaving, I have no doubt that he is an Arsenal man. I'll always hold him in the highest esteem for remaining with us during the barren years whilst everyone else jumped ship, he could've gone to the top European clubs but he remained here. It's only right that he was finally rewarded for his efforts all these years and broke our drought with the FA Cup win.

An Arsenal legend.

Thank you, Bacary - and farewell.

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Agree with VV14 - his professionalism and commitment over the last 7 years has been outstanding. He has been a superb defender for us, although he's never been much of a crosser and his attacking in the last two seasons has been fairly appalling. Wouldn't be a problem at all if we were to upgrade but I can't see that happening.

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VAVAVOOM 14 wrote:I'll always remember him for being the epitome of a professional: never once heard about him off the pitch, never once saw him give anything less than 110% on it.

Even though he's leaving, I have no doubt that he is an Arsenal man. I'll always hold him in the highest esteem for remaining with us during the barren years whilst everyone else jumped ship, he could've gone to the top European clubs but he remained here. It's only right that he was finally rewarded for his efforts all these years and broke our drought with the FA Cup win.

An Arsenal legend.

Thank you, Bacary - and farewell.
Steady on, you do realize with that word you put him in the same bracket as Lee Dixon,Sansom Winterburn,Lauren and dare I say it A.Cole. Sagna has been good for us but he is in a category below those players.

Poor old Jenko though, looks like he's going to have to work really hard to emerge from Sagna's shadow. In UEFA's eyes anyway http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/ ... ml#2069280 :shock:

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VAVAVOOM 14 wrote: An Arsenal legend.
not.even. close.

Legends are Bergkamp, Henry, wright, adams, o'leary, brady, jennings, vieira, winterburn, dixon, bould, keown, graham, rice, mclintock, George, davis, rocastle, smith, thomas.

you have to serve us a long time, win a lot, or do something really special to qualify as an "Arsenal Legend".

imho even Freddie, Fabregas and Pires don't qualify, nor Petit, Overmars, stapleton, Seaman, Kenneth Samson, Willie Young, Gilberto - all players better than Bac.

Bac = nice guy, steady performer, did a job. wish him well, but NOT a legend.

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Clockender1

Would class Pires as an Arsenal legend.

He was only with us for six seasons, but what a player!
Two titles and three FA Cups including a double and the Invincibles.
I class Brady as a legend because of his skills and influence, but do not forget he only won one FA Cup.

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how is george (69-73) a legend above pires (00-06) by your own definition thats bollocks. And yes george did win us a cup, but so did pires v southampton.

in fact ljunberg (98-07) is a longer serving player than most of legends you quoted :shock:

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clockender1 wrote: Legends are Bergkamp, Henry, wright, adams, o'leary, brady, jennings, vieira, winterburn, dixon, bould, keown, graham, rice, mclintock, George, davis, rocastle, smith, thomas.

you have to serve us a long time, win a lot, or do something really special to qualify as an "Arsenal Legend".

imho even Freddie, Fabregas and Pires don't qualify, nor Petit, Overmars, stapleton, Seaman, Kenneth Samson, Willie Young, Gilberto - all players better than Bac.
Certainly wouldn't disagree with Charlie George being an Arsenal legend, but he was with us for less time than Kenny Samson, and played less than half the number of games! And David Seaman was with us for twice as long as Charlie and played 3 times the number of games...and he also won a trophy or three!

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clockender1 wrote:
VAVAVOOM 14 wrote: An Arsenal legend.
not.even. close.

Legends are Bergkamp, Henry, wright, adams, o'leary, brady, jennings, vieira, winterburn, dixon, bould, keown, graham, rice, mclintock, George, davis, rocastle, smith, thomas.

you have to serve us a long time, win a lot, or do something really special to qualify as an "Arsenal Legend".

imho even Freddie, Fabregas and Pires don't qualify, nor Petit, Overmars, stapleton, Seaman, Kenneth Samson, Willie Young, Gilberto - all players better than Bac.

Bac = nice guy, steady performer, did a job. wish him well, but NOT a legend.
Pores, Seaman and Samson are legends by your definition, mate.

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Bye Bye Bacs thanks and bon voyage - I hope you do ok(ish) as long as you fuck up BIG time if you ever turn out against The Arsenal....oh! and don't let the door hit you in the back on your way out!. :|

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Am I the only one utterly pissed off with other PL teams, Citeh in particular plundering our players. :oops:

I bear Bac no malice at all, fully agree he has been a total pro, legend or not think all Gooners will stand up for the guy, I wont forget after his horrible injuries he bounced back so well.

However, Citeh in NO WAY need him, he has merely been bought to deprive us of any possibility of us retaining a top player- f**k off citeh you Ba**ards.

I can understand them getting The lesbian Clichy and even (Just..) Greedy but for me this is a step too far- also as said am v surprised so soon after FFP hit them.

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To be honest Citeh haven't done us badly at all. Was delighted to get shot of Clichy and Adebayor, and they overpaid for Nasri considering the circumstances and the fact it was obvious we were never going to hold him to his deal.

It's a hell of a lot of money to pay Sagna (if the reports are true) but they will rationalise that they've saved themselves a few million on the transfer fee so won't mind spreading that out over the course of his deal. I don't think they've signed him just to deprive us and whilst he can still do a job for us Sagna is not a top player. If he was then I think we would be questioning why we aren't offering him that money, not why City are.

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clockender1 wrote:
not.even. close.

Legends are Bergkamp, Henry, wright, adams, o'leary, brady, jennings, vieira, winterburn, dixon, bould, keown, graham, rice, mclintock, George, davis, rocastle, smith, thomas.

you have to serve us a long time, win a lot, or do something really special to qualify as an "Arsenal Legend".

imho even Freddie, Fabregas and Pires don't qualify, nor Petit, Overmars, stapleton, Seaman, Kenneth Samson, Willie Young, Gilberto - all players better than Bac.

Bac = nice guy, steady performer, did a job. wish him well, but NOT a legend.

Sagna is a far better player/defender than Winterburn ever was.

He's not a level below Lauren: Lauren was better at going forward, but not defending - which is more important.

There's no way in hell Pires isn't an Arsenal legend - he won a lot: 2 PL titles and 3 FA Cups in 6 years, that's probably amongst the greatest years/trophies ratio any player has in our history. On top of that, he was one of our greatest ever players in terms of sheer footballing ability.

By your logic Rosicky is an Arsenal legend as he may very well end up being at the club for 10 years or more - which is longer than Vieira, Rocastle, Henry, etc. It also means he'll be eligible for a testimonial.

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northbank123 wrote:To be honest Citeh haven't done us badly at all. Was delighted to get shot of Clichy and Adebayor, and they overpaid for Nasri considering the circumstances and the fact it was obvious we were never going to hold him to his deal.
I don't think they've signed him just to deprive us and whilst he can still do a job for us Sagna is not a top player.
Fair point re us not doing badly with the first 3 deals, however still makes for 4 players gone there now, feels like we have become a feeder club :oops:
Nah, cant see it, are they signing him in case Zabaletta gets injured or what? Not really sure that despite the rumours he would have got any better deal than we were allegedly offering wth anyone else bar Citeh. :roll:

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Theoperator wrote:

Nah, cant see it, are they signing him in case Zabaletta gets injured or what?
This and because he can double up as a CB which means they're getting two players in one - they can refrain from buying a true CB.

You know City - always penny pinching and spending responsibly... :wink:

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