Spuds or Victims*

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Who do you hate more?

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Victims
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Apparently Crouching Tiger Diving Monkey preferred a move to manure rather than back to the scum. :lol: And still those ass inhaling knuckle dragging walking abortions welcome him like the returning hero. :oops: :lol:

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How Spursy....score six at Old Trafford...only to see Liverpool steal the headlines by conceding seven..

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Very Spursy. :lol:

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Mo Salah is being proclaimed a hero for standing up for a homeless man who was being abused and threatened by a group of men at a petrol station. Salah also gave the homeless man £100..
Probably thought it was his manager he was saving..

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No plge this weekend, so “attention seeking bastard face klopp” has been “paying tribute to John lennon” by singing beatles songs!
What a fucking turd!

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Good to see this w**ker make a tool of himself - how very sp*rsy of him :lol: :lol:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... m-arsenal/

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augie wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:55 pm
Good to see this w**ker make a tool of himself - how very sp*rsy of him :lol: :lol:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... m-arsenal/
:coffeespit:

They are just so spursy. They can't help themselves any of them. :oops: :lol:

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goonersid wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:17 pm
No plge this weekend, so “attention seeking bastard face klopp” has been “paying tribute to John lennon” by singing beatles songs!
What a fucking turd!
Fucking Trampy Shipman arsehole. What a prick he really is. :roll: :censored:

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And the Trampy Shipman Cunthole of the Year Award goes to some cock called Dom Farrell who "wrote" this pile of mouser* felating fucking rubbish:

https://www.stadiumastro.com/stadiumast ... t%2F167470

As I was reading it I kept thinking "ok where's the bit were this arsewipe hails Trampy's murderers* as the greatest team of all time?"

And sure enough the entire final two thirds of that article are basically a mouser* felch-a-thon. The silly cùnt is quoting all kinds of minor stats to infer that LiVARpool* are a greater team than the Invincibles. :roll:

But the stupid cùnt fails and even begrudgingly admits that right at the end, even though he spews out shit like "As the Premier League's best continue to stack up dizzying numbers, Arsenal's last title winners slip a little further down the all-time standings". :roll:

Bollocks. The Invincibles are the only team that have won the league and gone the entire league season unbeaten and did it playing far far more adventurous attractive football than the murderers* could even dream of playing. And they did it without fucking VAR cheating for them in every game. 8)

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Football Bono on today's Daily Mail is quoted as saying he knew Everton would be the next proper challengers to Liverpool.
What a man., or imagine craving publicity that much that you have to say you knew that this season's flying starters are the real deal just so you look intelligent. ?

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leader of Liverpool's defense?

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After“the best CB" Van Dijk was injured, can Matip become the leader of Liverpool's defense?

When Liverpool went looking for a centre back four years ago, they watched no fewer than 34 candidates play 15 games apiece. When it came to those with potential to develop, Virgil van Dijk emerged top in every category, from aerial prowess and recovery speed to composure and the respect of his colleagues.

It's the spatial awareness, the calmness, the height, the goals and the guidance for Joe Gomez and Joel Matip who are poorer without him, which they will now miss. As well as the diagonal passes which propel Liverpool ahead on the counter attack and were integral to last year's 3-1 away win at Bayern Munich, in which Van Dijk also scored.
Can Liverpool possibly retain the Premier League if, as seems possible, van Dijk will be out all season with the ACL injury which will require surgery. 'I would say no, says the BBC's Mark Lawrenson. 'His performances don't change but he helps everyone around him and makes them better. He's a talker; a leader. He is irreplaceable.'

Jurgen Klopp insisted that Liverpool have to regroup. 'Virgil will get over it, 100 per cent, and today is already the first day of the recovery,' he said.
But he was already a centre half down, having sanctioned Dejan Lovren's sale to Zenit Saint Petersburg this summer, so it will be for Joel Matip – injury-prone and also undergoing a muscular scan after Saturday's derby – as well as Joe Gomez - a work-in-progress with a tendency to adopt the wrong body shape at key moments and hit trouble – to step up.
So far, Matip, 29, has not looked like a leader though it's possible, of course, that this crisis will turn him into a more vocal defender, conscious that this is his moment to guide Gomez, 23. Unexpected outcomes can come from adversity. When Kenny Dalglish missed two months of the 1983/84 season after Kevin Moran smashed his jaw, Paul Walsh played and flourished.
It's possible that Fabinho, impressive in van Dijk's shoes when stepping in for him in the 0-0 home leg against Bayern, could become one of Klopp's centre halves of choice, though Lawrenson sees the Brazilian possibly sitting slightly deeper in front of the defensive back two 'to form a triangle with the centre backs.'
Another alternative is a three-man defence of Matip, Gomez and Fabinho, though that would mean Andy Robertson and Trent Alexander-Arnold operating as pure wingers, which would be detrimental. 'In their current position they've got acres to run into and their starting position is a defensive position,' Lawrenson says. 'With three at the back they become two midfield players, playing on the half turn in more congested space.'
Klopp will surely go back into the transfer market in January, not least because Lovren's departure has left him short, though the problem is that centre half is currently a premium position, which has driven up the price.
Liverpool have actively looked in Germany, asking about Schalke's combative Turkish centre half Ozan Kabak – a more aggressive version of Matip – though after hearing the £36.2million price, they did not proceed down that route. Malick Thiaw, the young Finn who has captained Schalke's under 19s and briefly appeared for the senior side, has also been of interest.
Liverpool and Manchester City's scouts are cut from the same cloth so Seville centre half Jules Kounde will be well known to Klopp, though he, like Thiaw, has very little experience. Liverpool like to buy defenders who, like Gomez, can develop at full back and be adapted to central defence.
They were surprised that Bristol City's England under-21 international Lloyd Kelly signed for Bournemouth, rather than them, last year. They like Brighton's Ben White, though have reservations about his height and have considered Burnley's James Tarkowski in the past.
The truth is that Klopp's huge demands on centre backs makes buying one for immediate use fiendishly difficult. 'Because the team push up and press you need the pace to recover and get back,' says Lawrenson.
'You need to back yourself in a foot race over 30 yards.' That might rule out thoughts of bringing Conor Coady, a leader and extremely effective defender, home to Liverpool from Wolves.
There is consolation for Liverpool in that the rest of the Premier League big guns are not exactly pulling up trees and that van Dijk has generally proved so durable.
The moment above all others which left Klopp and his staff convinced they'd signed the right man came late against Tottenham at Anfield last season when Moussa Sissoko led a two-v-one breakaway. Van Dijk held his ground, forcing Sissoko to rush his chance and miss. Van Dijk took a very heavy blow to the ankle in the process and left the stadium in an ice pack. He was back in the team six days later.
This lay-off will be considerably longer though and even if the Dutchman is back ahead of time, will the damage have already been done?

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Cool story bro :roll:

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Where were you when JFK or Princess Di died? or where were you when you heard about 9/11. ? Or where were you when the horrendous injury was visited on Virgil Van Dijk?
Had a 'discussion ' with a genuine Liverpool fan on Sunday.I say genuine but also paranoid. We argued about the media reaction to the Merseyside derby. He believed it confirmed the conspiracy and bias against Liverpool, I saw the complete opposite. I used the argument that the coverage and media adulation following their Premier League title win was over the top, and not even Leicester City got anything like that.
His answer was that it was because of the pandemic that the programmes were used to fill time and to lift people.

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Forever 10 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:52 am
After“the best CB" Van Dijk was injured, can Matip become the leader of Liverpool's defense?

When Liverpool went looking for a centre back four years ago, they watched no fewer than 34 candidates play 15 games apiece. When it came to those with potential to develop, Virgil van Dijk emerged top in every category, from aerial prowess and recovery speed to composure and the respect of his colleagues.

It's the spatial awareness, the calmness, the height, the goals and the guidance for Joe Gomez and Joel Matip who are poorer without him, which they will now miss. As well as the diagonal passes which propel Liverpool ahead on the counter attack and were integral to last year's 3-1 away win at Bayern Munich, in which Van Dijk also scored.
Can Liverpool possibly retain the Premier League if, as seems possible, van Dijk will be out all season with the ACL injury which will require surgery. 'I would say no, says the BBC's Mark Lawrenson. 'His performances don't change but he helps everyone around him and makes them better. He's a talker; a leader. He is irreplaceable.'

Jurgen Klopp insisted that Liverpool have to regroup. 'Virgil will get over it, 100 per cent, and today is already the first day of the recovery,' he said.
But he was already a centre half down, having sanctioned Dejan Lovren's sale to Zenit Saint Petersburg this summer, so it will be for Joel Matip – injury-prone and also undergoing a muscular scan after Saturday's derby – as well as Joe Gomez - a work-in-progress with a tendency to adopt the wrong body shape at key moments and hit trouble – to step up.
So far, Matip, 29, has not looked like a leader though it's possible, of course, that this crisis will turn him into a more vocal defender, conscious that this is his moment to guide Gomez, 23. Unexpected outcomes can come from adversity. When Kenny Dalglish missed two months of the 1983/84 season after Kevin Moran smashed his jaw, Paul Walsh played and flourished.
It's possible that Fabinho, impressive in van Dijk's shoes when stepping in for him in the 0-0 home leg against Bayern, could become one of Klopp's centre halves of choice, though Lawrenson sees the Brazilian possibly sitting slightly deeper in front of the defensive back two 'to form a triangle with the centre backs.'
Another alternative is a three-man defence of Matip, Gomez and Fabinho, though that would mean Andy Robertson and Trent Alexander-Arnold operating as pure wingers, which would be detrimental. 'In their current position they've got acres to run into and their starting position is a defensive position,' Lawrenson says. 'With three at the back they become two midfield players, playing on the half turn in more congested space.'
Klopp will surely go back into the transfer market in January, not least because Lovren's departure has left him short, though the problem is that centre half is currently a premium position, which has driven up the price.
Liverpool have actively looked in Germany, asking about Schalke's combative Turkish centre half Ozan Kabak – a more aggressive version of Matip – though after hearing the £36.2million price, they did not proceed down that route. Malick Thiaw, the young Finn who has captained Schalke's under 19s and briefly appeared for the senior side, has also been of interest.
Liverpool and Manchester City's scouts are cut from the same cloth so Seville centre half Jules Kounde will be well known to Klopp, though he, like Thiaw, has very little experience. Liverpool like to buy defenders who, like Gomez, can develop at full back and be adapted to central defence.
They were surprised that Bristol City's England under-21 international Lloyd Kelly signed for Bournemouth, rather than them, last year. They like Brighton's Ben White, though have reservations about his height and have considered Burnley's James Tarkowski in the past.
The truth is that Klopp's huge demands on centre backs makes buying one for immediate use fiendishly difficult. 'Because the team push up and press you need the pace to recover and get back,' says Lawrenson.
'You need to back yourself in a foot race over 30 yards.' That might rule out thoughts of bringing Conor Coady, a leader and extremely effective defender, home to Liverpool from Wolves.
There is consolation for Liverpool in that the rest of the Premier League big guns are not exactly pulling up trees and that van Dijk has generally proved so durable.
The moment above all others which left Klopp and his staff convinced they'd signed the right man came late against Tottenham at Anfield last season when Moussa Sissoko led a two-v-one breakaway. Van Dijk held his ground, forcing Sissoko to rush his chance and miss. Van Dijk took a very heavy blow to the ankle in the process and left the stadium in an ice pack. He was back in the team six days later.
This lay-off will be considerably longer though and even if the Dutchman is back ahead of time, will the damage have already been done?
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Also there is a mouser* thread. I'm merging this with that until you credit the author or link the original article. If you don't do that today I'm deleting this and banning you for trolling.

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Forever 10 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:52 am
After“the best CB" Van Dijk was injured, can Matip become the leader of Liverpool's defense?

When Liverpool went looking for a centre back four years ago, they watched no fewer than 34 candidates play 15 games apiece. When it came to those with potential to develop, Virgil van Dijk emerged top in every category, from aerial prowess and recovery speed to composure and the respect of his colleagues.......
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