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Re: Your Choice As Manager
Arteta is Gazidis choice and always was ,he's perfect for him as chief overlord as he thinks he has a connection with him and will be easy to manage.
Call me an old cynic (or worse) but I believe the much vaunted allegri/enrique and even perhaps Viera short-listings are a smokescreen from our snake oil salesman director .
Same Old Arsenal,taking the piss !
Call me an old cynic (or worse) but I believe the much vaunted allegri/enrique and even perhaps Viera short-listings are a smokescreen from our snake oil salesman director .
Same Old Arsenal,taking the piss !
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Why we bought him does not come into it. Caps for Spain does not come into it. The simple fact is if you had actually watched those games in Arteta's first two seasons, you would know he was our most consistent player. Not a world beater, not the best in the PL, but he consistently played the DM role well, anticipating and positioning like a good DM should. He was even praised as such by nearly everyone on here of all places ffs. Arteta wasn't a tippy tappy player, he was a deep sitting DM that anticipated the play, and distributed the ball to others to go off and tippy tappy. He had a very simple role in the team and was good at it. Then his legs went and typical Wenger played him well past his best.Wilson wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 9:37 amDB10GOONER wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 6:28 amJesus that is some of the worst most ill informed revisionist horseshit I've ever read on here - and that's saying something. Arteta was our most consistent player for the first two seasons we had him until his legs went. Not his fault Wenger played him long after he had peaked, that's what Wenger does.Wilson wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 2:11 amIts becoming apparent we are not moving hard for a top line manager. And it really does seem Arteta could win the lottery and get a job he is not worthy of. Im absolutely aghast at the idea of him being manager. When Wenger said he was leaving, it was finally a chance for a new & clean break. However Arteta as manager is some sort of cruel joke. He was an under performing player and the shittest captain we ever had. He was part of the mad dash following the 8-2 thrashing & was a piss poor Cesc replacement. The media refer to him as an Arsenal great which is so bizarre considering he was an Arsenal disaster. In what world does this Arsenal board think the fans would accept Arteta? He was one of Wenger's merry men, morons who think sideways and backwards passing is possession football. He lacked work ethic and as a push over in midfield. He was weak and was dis-possesed twice in one half in that lead to 2 of Chelsea's 6 goals in Wengers 1000th game. He is the type of player that was indicative of our decling state
Im absolutely stunned that following a popular decision to remove a very unpopular manager, this board would appoint someone who has no pedigree, no respect & no worthiness. Arteta never played for Spain, and the biggest club he played for was us, and even still he was a panic buy.
If the club want to go down this route, then give it to fuking paddy, because he actually was a great captain and midfielder, has pedigree, respect and worthiness. The fans will love him and get behind him more than we could Arteta. Please just give it to Paddy, because Arteta will be a permanent disaster from start to end = Gary Neville at Valancia
I still would never want him as manager but that has nothing to do with his playing career.
Are you kidding me? We wouldnt have even bought him if United didn't thrash us 8-2. He was a typical Wenger player, soft & sold on the idea that possession football is the foremost way forward.
He never played for Spain. Not even one cap. I know Spain had strength in their midfield, but do not get one cap in his entire career - the Spanish can distinguish between the wannabee tika taka from the real thing. Arteta was a tika tika enthusiast, but not a specialist.
When he was named captain, I was aghast, and know here we are, the prospect of giving the mangers job to a complete novice. We need to be more hostile to people like Arteta. I wont even give him a chance if he is named manager, form day one ill already be ''Arteta out''
You also don't seem to grasp that a top player does not necessarily make a top manager and a shit or average player does not necessarily make a shit manager. Forget their playing careers. Our next manager needs to be a top manager with vast experience and a sense of pragmatism to have any hope of sorting out the mess Wenger left behind.
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True.... probably...Herd wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:14 pmArteta is Gazidis choice and always was ,he's perfect for him as chief overlord as he thinks he has a connection with him and will be easy to manage.
Call me an old cynic (or worse) but I believe the much vaunted allegri/enrique and even perhaps Viera short-listings are a smokescreen from our snake oil salesman director .
Same Old Arsenal,taking the piss !
Arteta would be a disaster. He'd be a yes man for the Board and then when it started to unwind around him one of those cúnts would call Wenger to come in and "help".
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On day one the new manager is going to walk in to an absolute cluster fcuk of a situation - a team with no goalkeeper, no defence, a half a midfield, no leaders, no hunger and no stomach for the battle.
A team with no tactical nous, no plan, no style of football and full of players with no idea how to deal with the pressure of clutch games when going for a league title.
He'll stroll down to his first training session to find a bunch of bottlers on easy street waiting to do some 5 a side tippy tappy who have never trained in taking/defending set pieces, different formations, plans or ways to outthink or out battle the opposition.
The guy who walks in to that situation needs to be massively experienced to have any hope of trying to drag the club out of Wenger's malaise, that guy cannot be a rookie who has never managed a team in his life.
God help us all.
A team with no tactical nous, no plan, no style of football and full of players with no idea how to deal with the pressure of clutch games when going for a league title.
He'll stroll down to his first training session to find a bunch of bottlers on easy street waiting to do some 5 a side tippy tappy who have never trained in taking/defending set pieces, different formations, plans or ways to outthink or out battle the opposition.
The guy who walks in to that situation needs to be massively experienced to have any hope of trying to drag the club out of Wenger's malaise, that guy cannot be a rookie who has never managed a team in his life.
God help us all.
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It seems depressingly inevitable they will hire Arteta or some other managerial no mark tosser. My delight at TOF getting the boot last month has given way to growing dread that they will make a duff appointment. Especially as the bastards clearly didn't have anyone lined up, even if they wanted to keep it under wraps for TOF's wanky goodbye.
If this regime of cúnts at the club bring in a shite replacement like Arteta, or any other controllable rookie, they can fuck right off. Sorry to say, but I haven't missed following all the games live, in this season just gone. I didn't watch a minute of a live PL game and I simply did not care. As dull as things are for me, it's even duller watching that turgid and predictable sideways shite for 90+ minutes. I have better things to do, like watching paint dry. To think that there would be a 'TOF Part 2' after finally getting the old bastard out is pretty fucking dreadful.
We need a winner with experience, like Ancelotti/Allegri to clean up all the mess and make a challenge for silverware. Now that would be worth watching. As great as it is that TOF is finally gone, we are not out of the woods yet. I fear the doldrums will continue while that wig-wearing parasite cúnt is still here. If they make bad appointments (likely) and keep bad managers lost past their best (confirmed), there really is no point in wasting our time. It all hinges on who the next man is.
If this regime of cúnts at the club bring in a shite replacement like Arteta, or any other controllable rookie, they can fuck right off. Sorry to say, but I haven't missed following all the games live, in this season just gone. I didn't watch a minute of a live PL game and I simply did not care. As dull as things are for me, it's even duller watching that turgid and predictable sideways shite for 90+ minutes. I have better things to do, like watching paint dry. To think that there would be a 'TOF Part 2' after finally getting the old bastard out is pretty fucking dreadful.
We need a winner with experience, like Ancelotti/Allegri to clean up all the mess and make a challenge for silverware. Now that would be worth watching. As great as it is that TOF is finally gone, we are not out of the woods yet. I fear the doldrums will continue while that wig-wearing parasite cúnt is still here. If they make bad appointments (likely) and keep bad managers lost past their best (confirmed), there really is no point in wasting our time. It all hinges on who the next man is.
Re: Your Choice As Manager
rodders999 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:43 pmOn day one the new manager is going to walk in to an absolute cluster fcuk of a situation - a team with no goalkeeper, no defence, a half a midfield, no leaders, no hunger and no stomach for the battle.
A team with no tactical nous, no plan, no style of football and full of players with no idea how to deal with the pressure of clutch games when going for a league title.
He'll stroll down to his first training session to find a bunch of bottlers on easy street waiting to do some 5 a side tippy tappy who have never trained in taking/defending set pieces, different formations, plans or ways to outthink or out battle the opposition.
The guy who walks in to that situation needs to be massively experienced to have any hope of trying to drag the club out of Wenger's malaise, that guy cannot be a rookie who has never managed a team in his life.
God help us all.
Spot on, rodders.
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As I said, Arteta is not my choice - wiser to go for experience at this stage. But he wouldn't necessarily be a disaster, either. In his favour are the fact that he knows club and he knows the league and has, or should have, a pretty good idea of what might work and what won't. And the pressure won't be on from the get go (unlike, say, when Moyes took over from Ferguson's champions). His appointment wouldn't have me jumping about with joy, but wouldn't fill me with dread either.augie wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:58 pmcameron326 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:51 pmArteta would not be my choice but I hope we get properly behind him if appointed. People think of Allegri as a "winner" which is no bad thing of course. But the realty is that the next Arsenal manager, whoever it is, is almost certainly not going to be a winner with this team, more of a sorter outer, with the aim of pushing us back up to 3rd or 4th after two or three seasons, leapfrogging Liverpool and/or Tottenham and/or Chelsea. I hope I'm wrong and the next manager can turn water into wine, but more than likely its the manager after this one who can hopefully be the miracle worker and bring success like at the beginning of Wenger's reign.
This isnt about winning or losing next season - this is about sorting out the shitfest that wenker has left behind, and you do not bring in a rookie that has had zero days as a manager of any team, to clear the mess up. A novice manager might well add to the shitfest and ensure that even the manager after him will have zero hope of becoming proper challengers again
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as I said earlier all the money has come for Brendan Rodgers today - now as low as 2/1 2nd favouriteGunner Rob wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:50 aminterestingly the move this morning has been for Brendan Rodgers - now just 9/2 with Betfred
this is not going to end well...
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Won't be this guy
BREAKING: Thomas Tuchel has been appointed as the new Paris Saint-Germain manager.
BREAKING: Thomas Tuchel has been appointed as the new Paris Saint-Germain manager.
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Don't forget...Wenger The Legend...who loves arsenal more than life itself, has swanned off into the sunset with 10m for next years managerial duties. Where's the money for the new boy...why, Wenger has it
Re: Your Choice As Manager
Changed that for you....cameron326 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 3:01 pmAs I said, Arteta is not my choice - wiser to go for experience at this stage. But he would be a disaster
Re: Your Choice As Manager
NickF wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 3:52 pmChanged that for you....cameron326 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 3:01 pmAs I said, Arteta is not my choice - wiser to go for experience at this stage. But he would be a disaster
Absolutely - I cannot understand how anybody would think otherwise
It's saying something when I would rather see brendan rodgers appointed than give it to arteta I'm actually even considering to start a petition to give it to fat sam or pardew ahead of arteta, and I absolutely hate those despicable b**tards
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Didn't want that knob jockey anyway, has a Trotters Independant Traders ring to him.... TITmcdowell42 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 3:41 pmWon't be this guy
BREAKING: Thomas Tuchel has been appointed as the new Paris Saint-Germain manager.
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Cannot believe the names bandied about, you would have thought Wiggie and Joshbag would have had the foresight to have a replacement as soon as the deadbeat had gone, what a fucking joke club we are....