GoonerMuzz wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:31 pm
augie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:51 pm
GoonerMuzz wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:10 pm
Why is anyone surprised by this?
Not wanting to be harsh but when Wenger was here this was par for the course, not all of us believed it was all down to Wenger at the time but a multitude of sinners in the club structure yet only now is the penny seeming to drop for some. We are the archetypal 'Scotsman' in the transfer market (sorry Jock and Falkirk, but you know what i mean
), to coin an old joke, copper wire was invented by Stan and Arsene fighting over a penny from the Arsenal piggy bank
We'll have a trolley dash with a week to go lads, dont worry its what we do!! Then the sheep in the bowl will be happy
Tierney should be a no brainer to be honest position of need, 22 YO, £25M not a massive risk or valuation in the current market, Zaha i wouldn't want anywhere near the club for the exact same reasons others have mentioned, but
what worries me the most is the lack of movement out the club to free up money and wages, it feels like we are going into the new season with pretty much the same issues, i mean players, we ended last season with and currently no immediate improvement options
I understand your thought process here, but the contradiction in it is kinda touched upon in your second paragraph - wenger ran the transfer system including contracts etc. and it is down to his woefully bad mismanagement of our finances that we don't have a pot to pish in. The lack of players moving out, are those same players that the French cock bought and overpaid and we will be living with his mistakes for a long time yet
I get your point Augie but AW didn't sign the checks or assign the transfer budget. He may of offered to hand it back if given it on occasions
but there is no proof he was actually ever offered it. It's easy to seem the good guy to your boss by making statements like that, but in all honesty it was incredibly cowardly of him to accept the 'supposed' budget limitations he was given especially when his 'project youth' failed.
I'm increasingly of the opinion that Wengers arrogance and touted running of everything blinds us to the reality that in some things he was as much a yes man as the Lizard and the Board were. I think its becoming increasingly obvious after the removal of Wenger and many of his acolytes in the last year or so that nothing much is changing at the highest levels of the club and that our supposed stay away owner is much more in control of things than we supposed when we were levelling most of our ire and the blame at Wenger.
No doubt Wenger was an idiot, but some might say he was a useful idiot in the way he acted like a shield for those higher up the food chain than him, now the shield has gone maybe we are seeing much more clearly than before, but that is just my opinion.
I'm worried that the new Manager may have fallen into the same trap but for different reasons, AW was a self serving aggrandising prick but in UEs case he may have fallen for the same shysters tricks by those above when signing on and been led down a garden path by naivety, only time will tell.
I think few of us thought that it was ONLY Wenger that was at the root of our problems, but he was, undoubtedly, as big a problem as any and imo, the catalyst for our onfield decline. Never forget that he squandered fortunes over the years (sadly the media and most fans still don't recognise it) and far from over-achieving with the resources at his disposal, he massively under-achieved.
It's actually impossible to separate the whole putrid bunch of ex and current directors / owners and the manager....each and every one was clearly complicit in maximising personal gain, at the expense of onfield success. Wenger was their front man, who willingly sold out whatever values and honour he may have ever possessed and was the foil who (quite brilliantly) kept the majority of our lobotomised fans quiet for over a decade. A sly, duplicitous, lying fucker, involved up to his neck in the deceit.
Whether Dick has "fallen into the same trap" willingly or unwillingly (I suspect the latter), doesn't really matter. The poor bastard hasn't got a hope of keeping the fans onside, because he doesn't have the sentiment and goodwill that the Fraud was able to trade on for years. It's quite possible that the Arsenal manager's seat, will be lashed to a revolving door for the foreseeable future.
