goonersid wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:48 am
Retro Gunner wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:23 am
MegaGooner wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:12 pm
I for one wouldn't mind Guendousi(sp) staying. Am I the only person thinking that there's some talent there but for a youngster he's trying to do so much. Especially trying to carry Xhaka.
You're not the only one Mega. Myself and Augie have been saying this for a while. It looks like Torreira is off to Fiorentina (a guy that 18 months ago we were all thinking might become a legend with us...remember the home game against the scum) and we're likely to let Guendouzi go too, but the dullard Xhaka will still be hanging around like a bad smell.
I've no idea what went wrong with Torreira, but as you say, both he and Guendouzi were constantly having to carry Xhaka. There's talent and potential in both those lads imo and it's criminal how the club have handled them. I wish them both well wherever they end up.
Criminal how the club have handled them?
What a load of bollocks, Dozy, has been without doubt one of the most unproductive player I have ever seen, runs around like fucking Bambi and easily knocked off the ball, also severe attitude problem, which he was obviously unwilling to control.
As for Torreira, had a handful of good performances when he first came into the team. Then started moaning about not settling in London, bla bla bla!
Don’t get me wrong, Xhaka is way short of what we require, but his attitude since the altercation with the fans, is what has kept him at the club.
And you think I'm talking bollocks !!
Sorry Sid, What you've posted is unadulterated bollocks, plus absolute crap.
Augie and DB have made the point well.
I'll stand by what I've said on here before, that I can't remember a worse centre mid at the Arsenal than Granit Xhaka. No point listing his faults, it's all been said on here a million times. I rate Guendouzi as a good prospect and already a mile ahead of Xhaka...fuck me, I'm better than Xhaka. I hear about his attitude problem and while it might well be true, I haven't ever read details. Tbh, I'd like to know.
As for Torreira, he may well not have settled as rumoured, but you can't put in those early performances by luck. Let's put it this way, we've NEVER seen Xhaka put in a single performance like that in the 4 years or so that he's been here.
If Torreira wants out and and Guendouzi is serious trouble, then they'll have to go, but that also points to potential poor management. Being constantly in and out of the side, while having to watch the Swiss Albanian clown stumbling around the pitch week in week out and then having to play alongside him when you are picked, is enough to piss anyone off.
It looks like they're both going and given the pony state of our centre midfield, they're losses we can't afford. As for Xhaka not figuring in Arteta's plans, I'm assuming that was tongue in cheek, because unless we sign a couple of top quality mids, then I've no doubt that ol' club foot will continue to be the centre mid go to for Arteta.