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Agree with this. A goal keeper who catches the ball. Who'd have thought we'd see that skill returning to the game? He has shown glimpses over the last 10 years of being a quality keeper, but given his performances I'd put him ahead of Leno, simply because he catches the ball and mixes it up with the throw or long kick rather than the tippy tappy around the penalty area.
On Guendouzi, he hasn't set out what he actually does on the pitch. Does he score? does he assist? is he a hard tackler? haven't seen any of that in the last 3 seasons. He may well be a good player when he can actually show exactly what he brings to the table. I only see a player that exemplifies everything that has been wrong with our midfield for the last few seasons, great technical ability, can't tackle and doesn't make assists. I remember Denilson having more to his game than I've seen from Guendouzi.
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I happen to think that there's a quality player in Guendouzi, especially as he's only just 21 and I've been happy with him so far. I see a bloke with energy, good technical ability, who carries the ball forward, but also gets busy closing down oppostion attacks in midfield and in and around our area. in short, the things that a centre mid should do. I'd concede that he isn't particularly creative going forward, but he's young.

On a more interesting note, who exactly amongst our centre mid illuminati do you consider to be better than Guendouzi? Around 18 months ago, I'd have said Torreira, but I'm not so sure now, as I think he's another poor bastard that we've ruined. So, keen to hear your take, because even if he's shit (which I don't think), it's surely a case of who's the shittest of all the shit we've got in centre mid and in my book, there's plenty more shit than him.
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Of our current midfielders Cellabos, Torreira, Xhaka (yes) and Willock are better players than guendouzi. Guendouzi has not established a style of play that makes you trust him in the midfield. Problem is our midfield needs better players than we currently have and Guendouzi does not fit the criteria. He may be talented but what does he do with that talent? He has never produced a display that makes me think he's the real deal. He's made 82 appearances for the club, 1 goal and 4 assists over 2 seasons. Not good enough, not worth the hassle, cash in on his potential and get a better midfielder.

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:25 pm
GoonerMuzz wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:15 pm
Anyone know where we can get a CB? There must be one out there better than Mustafi, Luiz and Kolasinac.....that wouldn't cost us much more than £10-15K, maybe less :rubchin:
Palace have only conceded one more goal than us with such luminaries as Scott Dann and James Tomkins, Burnley three more with Ben Mee and James Tarkowski. Sheffield United with Egan, Basham and Jagielka

It can be done! But who would want a manager who can organise a defence out of next to nothing? I mean we only won two titles doing that in 89 and 91 and numerous cups. Let's have tarts like Mustafi for 35m instead. Pretty sure thats more than Burnley, Palace and Sheffield United would have paid for all their centre halves combined
Agreed. Bould, Dixon and Winterburn cost relative peanuts at the time and along with Adams and O’Leary who cost nowt won the league in 1989. Happe at Orient would do a better job than the clowns like Mustafi. Must be plenty of centre halves in Championship, League 1 & 2 better than what Arsenal have right now.

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Nos89 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:00 pm
Agree with this. A goal keeper who catches the ball. Who'd have thought we'd see that skill returning to the game? He has shown glimpses over the last 10 years of being a quality keeper, but given his performances I'd put him ahead of Leno, simply because he catches the ball and mixes it up with the throw or long kick rather than the tippy tappy around the penalty area.
On Guendouzi, he hasn't set out what he actually does on the pitch. Does he score? does he assist? is he a hard tackler? haven't seen any of that in the last 3 seasons. He may well be a good player when he can actually show exactly what he brings to the table. I only see a player that exemplifies everything that has been wrong with our midfield for the last few seasons, great technical ability, can't tackle and doesn't make assists. I remember Denilson having more to his game than I've seen from Guendouzi.

I happen to think that there's a quality player in Guendouzi, especially as he's only just 21 and I've been happy with him so far. I see a bloke with energy, good technical ability, who carries the ball forward, but also gets busy closing down oppostion attacks in midfield and in and around our area. in short, the things that a centre mid should do. I'd concede that he isn't particularly creative going forward, but he's young.

On a more interesting note, who exactly amongst our centre mid illuminati do you consider to be better than Guendouzi? Around 18 months ago, I'd have said Torreira, but I'm not so sure now, as I think he's another poor bastard that we've ruined. So, keen to hear your take, because even if he's shit (which I don't think), it's surely a case of who's the shittest of all the shit we've got in centre mid and in my book, there's plenty more shit than him.
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Of our current midfielders Cellabos, Torreira, Xhaka (yes) and Willock are better players than guendouzi. Guendouzi has not established a style of play that makes you trust him in the midfield. Problem is our midfield needs better players than we currently have and Guendouzi does not fit the criteria. He may be talented but what does he do with that talent? He has never produced a display that makes me think he's the real deal. He's made 82 appearances for the club, 1 goal and 4 assists over 2 seasons. Not good enough, not worth the hassle, cash in on his potential and get a better midfielder.
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We do indeed need better players than we’ve got, but the question was who is better than Guendouzi and you pretty much said every centre mid we’ve got, including Xhaka !!! Suffice to say that Xhaka is the single worst centre mid I’ve ever seen at the club...by some margin. I think you’ve sunk your argument by citing that clown as better than Guendouzi, at least in the eyes of most on this forum.

I’ve already explained what I think Guendouzi brings, but you can’t see anything he offers. Fair enough, but tell me what Willock brings to the table, because I sure can’t see anything? As for Toreirra, I thought 18 months ago that we had a real star on our hands, but for whatever reason, those wheels have come off. He’s a shadow of his former self and I suspect he’ll be gone this summer.

I don’t see anyone offering more than Matteo in our centre mid.

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Exclusive: Ainsley Maitland-Niles has come to the conclusion that the writing is on the wall for for his career at Arsenal & in order to achieve regular 1st team game time he must leave #AFC. Contract to 2023, interest from England + Germany @TheAthleticUK https://t.co/CxhbX2McWn

Ainsley Maitland Niles plans to leave Arsenal this summer. Player feels there is a lack of trust in him from Arteta and he would welcome the chance to explore a fresh opportunity away from his boyhood club. [@David_Ornstein]

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:41 pm
Exclusive: Ainsley Maitland-Niles has come to the conclusion that the writing is on the wall for for his career at Arsenal & in order to achieve regular 1st team game time he must leave #AFC. Contract to 2023, interest from England + Germany @TheAthleticUK https://t.co/CxhbX2McWn

Ainsley Maitland Niles plans to leave Arsenal this summer. Player feels there is a lack of trust in him from Arteta and he would welcome the chance to explore a fresh opportunity away from his boyhood club. [@David_Ornstein]




Every young player in that squad, be they good or bad, will be looking at the likes of xhaka, mustafi, kolasniac and luiz in the team, and be saying to themselves that if arteta doesnt think that I am better than those c.unts, then I am wasting my time here. Honestly I think most fans will not realise what kind of message these players will be taking from arteta's team selection - if it was just one player left out on the back of arteta picking 1 of the above ahead of them and it could be put down to a managers personal selection, but to pick all 4 of those c.unts will absolutely have the younger players privately questioning arteta's ability and intelligence for the job. If us fans cannot fathom what the fcuk arteta is doing picking those c.unts, can you imagine how pro footballers who have been brought up to think that they are the mutts nuts will feel ?

I have been consistent in my views for the last 18 months and I still stand by my feelings that driving our younger players out of the club is the ultimate no no for any AFC manager right now - wenger destroyed this club with a decade of self harm and accumulating shit players, and I do not want arteta or any AFC manager to throw away our future hopes by persisting with proven failed players at the expense of younger players

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reports saying that Partey is close to signing a contract extension

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IW8Goalmachine wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:39 pm
reports saying that Partey is close to signing a contract extension

Whaaat ?! You mean he'd rather stay at Athletico Madrid than join the mighty Ars.......oh, wait a minute..................

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Ornstein is full of shit. He throws 100 pieces of that shit at a wall, one piece sticks and fuck me he's "in the know". :roll:

As for AM-N? If the story was true then Bye bye and enjoy your career at Palace, Villa and Stoke, son. No loss whatsoever.

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Can someone set up a 'failed transfer excuse' bingo, this year should be even more fun than usual with the likelihood of no European football :wink:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:32 pm
Ornstein is full of shit. He throws 100 pieces of that shit at a wall, one piece sticks and fuck me he's "in the know". :roll:

As for AM-N? If the story was true then Bye bye and enjoy your career at Palace, Villa and Stoke, son. No loss whatsoever.
Hey he could always go back to Ipswich down in division1 , where he went out on loan, apparently he was at his level there.

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Konstantinos Mavropanos has signed a new Arsenal deal and will spend next season on loan at Stuttgart. Good luck, ⁦@DMavropanos⁩! https://t.co/PQrcOmfvGK

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According to @TheAthleticUK, right now, talks with some of #Arsenal’s intended transfer targets are on hold. The club are waiting to discover if they’re successful in either of their remaining routes to a European windfall. https://t.co/K25qDKnTUR

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:34 pm
According to @TheAthleticUK, right now, talks with some of #Arsenal’s intended transfer targets are on hold. The club are waiting to discover if they’re successful in either of their remaining routes to a European windfall. https://t.co/K25qDKnTUR



This translates into "the players are waiting to see if we qualify for europe before joining a club in total free fall" :roll:

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:23 am
Konstantinos Mavropanos has signed a new Arsenal deal and will spend next season on loan at Stuttgart. Good luck, ⁦@DMavropanos⁩! https://t.co/PQrcOmfvGK
The guy showed real potential and then he got wengerised
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Guendouzi.......Be interesting if any other clubs come in for him......doubt it somehow

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