First wave of PL stalwarts go into management
First wave of PL stalwarts go into management
There seems to be a new wave of retired Premier League stalwarts going into management. High profile names like Gerrard, Lampard, and lesser profile Nolan, Moore and Barton all getting jobs this summer.
Will they be replacing the Moyes/ Pardew/ Allardyce/ Hodgeson merry go round or become title winners or managers at top4 clubs?
It was thought with the money they've made players like Lampard and Gerrard wouldn't go into management because of the pressures but they're giving it a go.
Will they be replacing the Moyes/ Pardew/ Allardyce/ Hodgeson merry go round or become title winners or managers at top4 clubs?
It was thought with the money they've made players like Lampard and Gerrard wouldn't go into management because of the pressures but they're giving it a go.
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Fuck me do you start a thread every time you have a thought mate?
Only kidding... but for me most of them will be the new generation of shit managers like the current mob of Pardew Redkrapp Fat Sam Hughes etc etc etc.
Only kidding... but for me most of them will be the new generation of shit managers like the current mob of Pardew Redkrapp Fat Sam Hughes etc etc etc.
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When a former top player goes into management it could go either way - they could turn out to be great managers who can bring their own experience to a team, or they could turn out to be shit if they cannot communicate and improve weaker players. It seems to be an accepted fact that glenda hoddle as a manager fell into the second group of players - a wonderfully skillful player who could not adapt when it came to coaching players who could not do what he was able to do himself.
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I thought glenda was a pretty good manager to be fair. He developed amd worked well with lesser players at Swindon
It was his off pitch views that cooked his goose
It was his off pitch views that cooked his goose
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I think it's a good thing as it makes things a bit more interesting and gives me more options of people I want to fuck things up at their club
From a club's perspective what have you really got to lose with fat frank over a fat sam, pardew, usual suspects type of appointment. To be fair to Frank he's got a brain in his head and speaks well when interviewed and has a fighting chance of success. Not sure how Gerrard and a bunch of weegies are going to get along though I think that could be entertaining especially when celtic stuff them in their next game.
From a club's perspective what have you really got to lose with fat frank over a fat sam, pardew, usual suspects type of appointment. To be fair to Frank he's got a brain in his head and speaks well when interviewed and has a fighting chance of success. Not sure how Gerrard and a bunch of weegies are going to get along though I think that could be entertaining especially when celtic stuff them in their next game.
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Is it just me or is lampard as thick as fuck ?
Personally, I think he’ll go the Bryan robson, mark Hughes route - aka be dogshit but keep be given chance after chance due to their playing career.
For a team that’s just missed the play offs it’s a shocking decision to pick a manager with no coaching, selection or scouting experience.
Personally, I think he’ll go the Bryan robson, mark Hughes route - aka be dogshit but keep be given chance after chance due to their playing career.
For a team that’s just missed the play offs it’s a shocking decision to pick a manager with no coaching, selection or scouting experience.
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First time I saw him being interviewed years ago I thought he was mildly retarded tbh. He just kept saying "the gaffa".clockender1 wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 4:53 pmIs it just me or is lampard as thick as fuck ?
Personally, I think he’ll go the Bryan robson, mark Hughes route - aka be dogshit but keep be given chance after chance due to their playing career.
For a team that’s just missed the play offs it’s a shocking decision to pick a manager with no coaching, selection or scouting experience.
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I think Lampard will take to management, he is a winner, was smart on the pitch and speaks well of it, it dont mean anything in management but suspect he'll be a bigger success than Gerrard.
This is the sort of path Arteta had to take not get above himself and think that he could walk into the Arsenal job.
This is the sort of path Arteta had to take not get above himself and think that he could walk into the Arsenal job.
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clockender1 wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 4:53 pmIs it just me or is lampard as thick as fuck ?
Personally, I think he’ll go the Bryan robson, mark Hughes route - aka be dogshit but keep be given chance after chance due to their playing career.
For a team that’s just missed the play offs it’s a shocking decision to pick a manager with no coaching, selection or scouting experience.
All the talk a few weeks ago was that rowett walked cos derby were about to start offloading players to reduce the wage bill ........... why would lumpolard take that job after hearing that ? I heard him say that it was the first concrete offer he had received, but doesnt he realise that the first managerial gig is the one that will make or break a guys career ? If he gets them promoted then he is a genuis, but if they fail to make the playoffs it will be said quite openly that he isnt as good a manager as those that went before him, regardless of the reasons why
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Joey fucking 'stab you in the face with a cigar' Barton?
I had only just stopped pissing myself about Lee Bowyer at Charlton.
Fwankie at Derby? Why did they change it, FFS? Surely a novice manager with zero experience, cannot replicate Derby's last season, narrowly missing out on promotion from one of footy's most difficult leagues. The mind boggles.
Gerrardcant at Rangers? Do me a favour. Brenda will tear him a new one. If he thinks that the bindipper supporters were hard on him when he showed a leg to Chavski, imagine what mincemeat the Gers supporters will make of this pillock. Novice with no knowhow. It will end in tears.
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I had only just stopped pissing myself about Lee Bowyer at Charlton.
Fwankie at Derby? Why did they change it, FFS? Surely a novice manager with zero experience, cannot replicate Derby's last season, narrowly missing out on promotion from one of footy's most difficult leagues. The mind boggles.
Gerrardcant at Rangers? Do me a favour. Brenda will tear him a new one. If he thinks that the bindipper supporters were hard on him when he showed a leg to Chavski, imagine what mincemeat the Gers supporters will make of this pillock. Novice with no knowhow. It will end in tears.
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Mark Hughes was great at Blackburn, was considered a viable Ferguson successor.clockender1 wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 4:53 pmIs it just me or is lampard as thick as fuck ?
Personally, I think he’ll go the Bryan robson, mark Hughes route - aka be dogshit but keep be given chance after chance due to their playing career.
For a team that’s just missed the play offs it’s a shocking decision to pick a manager with no coaching, selection or scouting experience.
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Wilson wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:14 amMark Hughes was great at Blackburn, was considered a viable Ferguson successor.clockender1 wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 4:53 pmIs it just me or is lampard as thick as fuck ?
Personally, I think he’ll go the Bryan robson, mark Hughes route - aka be dogshit but keep be given chance after chance due to their playing career.
For a team that’s just missed the play offs it’s a shocking decision to pick a manager with no coaching, selection or scouting experience.
Fucking hell mate. He was average on a good day there ffs. He managed to get one of the dirtiest sides in PL history to kick and foul their way to 6th place then went and pissed a fortune on the very definition of shit players and then used all that new "talent" to promptly finish 10th!
Ffs a quick Google will show the following "great" signings and the money he wasted:
Benni McCarthy (£2 million), David Bentley (£500,000), Ryan Nelsen (free), Stephen Warnock (£1.5 million), Roque Santa Cruz (£3.5 million), and Christopher Samba (£400,000).
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Bently, McCarthy and Cruz all punted on for a profit. 16m Tottenham pad for Bently, and Cruz went for 17m to City. McCarthy scored 50 goals for in 140 games for Blackburn. Nelson was a solider defender.DB10GOONER wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:07 amWilson wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:14 amMark Hughes was great at Blackburn, was considered a viable Ferguson successor.clockender1 wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 4:53 pmIs it just me or is lampard as thick as fuck ?
Personally, I think he’ll go the Bryan robson, mark Hughes route - aka be dogshit but keep be given chance after chance due to their playing career.
For a team that’s just missed the play offs it’s a shocking decision to pick a manager with no coaching, selection or scouting experience.
Fucking hell mate. He was average on a good day there ffs. He managed to get one of the dirtiest sides in PL history to kick and foul their way to 6th place then went and pissed a fortune on the very definition of shit players and then used all that new "talent" to promptly finish 10th!
Ffs a quick Google will show the following "great" signings and the money he wasted:
Benni McCarthy (£2 million), David Bentley (£500,000), Ryan Nelsen (free), Stephen Warnock (£1.5 million), Roque Santa Cruz (£3.5 million), and Christopher Samba (£400,000).
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Just read those names again to yourself. Then look at what they won in their careers, and the names of the big clubs most of them never played for. Bog average to poor every one of them.Wilson wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:26 amBently, McCarthy and Cruz all punted on for a profit. 16m Tottenham pad for Bently, and Cruz went for 17m to City. McCarthy scored 50 goals for in 140 games for Blackburn. Nelson was a solider defender.DB10GOONER wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:07 amWilson wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:14 amMark Hughes was great at Blackburn, was considered a viable Ferguson successor.clockender1 wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 4:53 pmIs it just me or is lampard as thick as fuck ?
Personally, I think he’ll go the Bryan robson, mark Hughes route - aka be dogshit but keep be given chance after chance due to their playing career.
For a team that’s just missed the play offs it’s a shocking decision to pick a manager with no coaching, selection or scouting experience.
Fucking hell mate. He was average on a good day there ffs. He managed to get one of the dirtiest sides in PL history to kick and foul their way to 6th place then went and pissed a fortune on the very definition of shit players and then used all that new "talent" to promptly finish 10th!
Ffs a quick Google will show the following "great" signings and the money he wasted:
Benni McCarthy (£2 million), David Bentley (£500,000), Ryan Nelsen (free), Stephen Warnock (£1.5 million), Roque Santa Cruz (£3.5 million), and Christopher Samba (£400,000).
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really don't think you've done yourself any favours with that post, that list of signings is tremendous for a club of blackburns size - and a couple of them huge bargainsDB10GOONER wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:07 amWilson wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:14 amMark Hughes was great at Blackburn, was considered a viable Ferguson successor.clockender1 wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 4:53 pmIs it just me or is lampard as thick as fuck ?
Personally, I think he’ll go the Bryan robson, mark Hughes route - aka be dogshit but keep be given chance after chance due to their playing career.
For a team that’s just missed the play offs it’s a shocking decision to pick a manager with no coaching, selection or scouting experience.
Fucking hell mate. He was average on a good day there ffs. He managed to get one of the dirtiest sides in PL history to kick and foul their way to 6th place then went and pissed a fortune on the very definition of shit players and then used all that new "talent" to promptly finish 10th!
Ffs a quick Google will show the following "great" signings and the money he wasted:
Benni McCarthy (£2 million), David Bentley (£500,000), Ryan Nelsen (free), Stephen Warnock (£1.5 million), Roque Santa Cruz (£3.5 million), and Christopher Samba (£400,000).
benni mccarthy was a top class strikers that had won the UEFA Cup & CL with porto and had a great scoring record at the time. David Bentley scored some scorchers for them (including a hat-trick v the mancs) and was sold for huge profit. Ryan Nelson was a very solid centre back for years, Warnock was sold for profit to villa, Chris Samba was another really solid centre half that was sold for huge profit to to some russian outfit for £12.3 million! As for Roque Santa Cruz - mate? This guy was a fucking revalation for them - scored 23 goals in 52 league games for them and made a huge move to citeh in the region of £17m!
Honestly, none of them were world class - but in my opinion looking back at that business, probably one of the best transfer windows a club of their size has ever had!