GoonerMuzz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:04 pm
It's too easy for some to try to put down those who are not content with UE as being AKBs or not giving him a chance, read the excuses after excuses after excuses being used to to defend him right now.
Seriously get a grip and grow up, i dont think a single person has said he hasn't improved aspects of things at the club but everything we used to slag off Wenger for is now being used as an excuse for his poor management at times. Injuries, bad players, no money etc etc. Step back and take some perspective, if this was AW in charge every one of those things would be his fault and his fault alone.
He has had what 30 odd games in charge now and we are STILL making the exact same mistakes we were making tactically under Wenger and when UE first took control, mistakes that a good manager would have put in place specific training and tactics to prevent. He can only coach the players in front of him that is true and when it is an individuals mistake like Lichsteiners the other week then he can't prevent that, but the amount of times we are caught out with 8 players in the oppositions third of the pitch, lose possession and then have 3 or 4 players bombing at our defence and no support for the CBs anywhere is becoming embarrassing.
Time after time after time in recent weeks we've been caught out in the same way and that is purely down to the manager not enforcing discipline and tactical awareness on his players. Every team we play now plays the exact same way against, back into formation of two banks of four as soon as we get the ball, wait for us to try to walk the ball into the next, steal it off us, quick counter attack against half a defence and too many times it has resulted in a goal.
If you want to be blinded by UE not being AW then that's fine but wind your necks in about calling people AKBs or whatever when you can't be objective about how poorly we are playing tactically, week in, week out, under the new Manager, especially when it is apparent that when he sets us up correctly we can do it, Spuds and Chelsea being prime examples. When he gets it right it is absolutely right to praise him but when he gets it wrong it is equally his fault after all it is the same players he is using for the good and bad matches, and he is equally responsible for training and coaching them in the matches. Wenger is no longer here remember and cannot be constantly used as an excuse when it goes wrong but have nothing to do with it when it goes right!
You want me to get a grip and grow up ?? Seriously how old are you ?? Let me ask you a few questions and we'll see where you answers take you ?
1. How long did it take for you to turn against wenger ? Did you turn after one shit half season ? I'm willing to bet that you grumbled for a while, then started to question him more forceably, and overall it took a few seasons to come to the conclusion that his best days were gone and that he needed to be replaced. Now when you admit to that, ask yourself how the fcuk are you expecting dick or any manager to remedy in 30 odd games, a mess that the previous fcukwit had spent years making ?
2. Think back to when wenger took over as manager (assuming you supported the club then)....... can you remember the group of players that he inherited ? How many league winners medals were in that first team (not inc subs) that he picked ? The answer to that is 12 btw, plus there a shit load of cup winners medals (inc european too

). Now ask how many league winners medals are in what you were classed as the best starting 11 in this squad - I would say 1 (sokratis), but if you want to include ozil it still only makes it 2. That should tell you the contrast in the quality of the squad dick took over in comparison to the senile old french c.unt
3. Lets stick with comparing both squads - can you remember the style of football and the mentality of the players wenger inherited ? How long did it take to get them playing his type of football ? Now look at the difference in mentality of the squads - wenger inherited a mentally strong group who had an unbelievable never say die attitude, and all wenger had to do was try to keep it going. It has frequently been acknowledged that after the last of GG's players left the squad, that strong mentality and leadership went with them. In contrast to wenger, dick has a squad full of pussys with no backbone and is trying to instill a strong winners attitude in them, and that will take time and an introduction of winners to guide the rest of the team.
Look at the players performances this season and, if you are honest you will admit that our best players have been torreira sokratis and the dozi - dick has had one transfer window and has upgraded the keepers position, bought a proper centre back, a quality ballsy DM, and a young hard working midfielder, and they were all serious needs for the team. Season after season wenger bought the same type of small lightweight technical players regardless of how unbalanced the squad was - honestly how many of the players in the squad last may would you have been happy with as first choice in their positions this season ? Did you expect the club to fix all those weaknesses in one summer ?
Anyone that has played football for any period of team at any kind of a decent level, or anyone that has coached a team for at least one season will tell you that it takes time and consistancy to work on tactics and team shape - how can you organise that when you dont have the same defenders available to you for two weeks in a row ? Do you think that maitland-niles has spent much time (or enough time) being coached as a defender ? How many sessions do you think xhaka has trained at centre back ? Such were our extended injury list, that kos spent over 7 months out injured and was rushed back into the starting team within a few weeks of returning to full training cos we had no alternative. How many games has monreal missed through injury ? How many has sokratis missed ? Can you ever remember a time when our team or another team, has had two of their top 5 defenders ruled out for over half a season through serious injuries and a 3rd member of that top 5 missing over half the games we have played so far this season ? You spend time coaching these players, but then come matchday that backline injury curse is struck again and we see xhaka and maitland-niles pushed into the defence or mustafi brought on and mayhem hits.
You need to be a bit more reasonable and mature when looking at the mess this club is in, and recognise that shit that dick is working with and in