Who would you like to see as next manager POLL
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Need to be all over Ancellotti now that he's free!
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The club’s decision makers are understood to be keeping an open mind as to who they will recommend to replace Emery. Sportsmail understands the Kroenkes see value in handing the job to someone who has played for the club, which would strengthen Arteta & Vieira’s cases. #Arsenal https://t.co/7TVHzqSqm9
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3 European Cups plus league titles, should be a no brainer for the morons that own & run our once proud football club.
Get him now, before someone else does!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50737095
Come on Arsenal, get on the case tonight!
Get him now, before someone else does!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50737095
Come on Arsenal, get on the case tonight!
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If he ends up at Everton, and we end up with some Spanish run of the mill coach we are seriously fucked.
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Hasn’t done well at Napoli or Bayern , is he a spent force , younger coaches overtaken him ? I’m not convinced
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To be honest i wasn't talking about myself, i just generalise so as not to say i told you so, go way way back into the Wenger out thread and the protest thread and you'll see i always said no point getting rid of Wenger without getting shot of Wiggy.... but the point was that i'm leaning towards Wenger being more of a yes man than was intimated by people on here and much less in control than was thought and that Wiggy was calling more of the shots than people think.DB10GOONER wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:43 pmMaybe more than you thought Muzz old mate.GoonerMuzz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:29 pmThis search for a replacement manager reminds me of OGL telling us he was working night and day to bring in super duper quality and we ended up with the likes of Mustafi and Xhaka.......
I thought we'd be done with this sort of horseshit when OGL and the lizard left, it seems that our stay away owner might have infected the place more than we thought
I always said Wenger was the symptom of a wider disease at Arsenal. That disease being the owners and board. A proper football minded ambitious owner would have shitcanned Wenger 10 years ago. We still have the disease.
People were so focussed on OGL being a odious ignorant disrespectful prick that they couldn't see beyond that to Wiggy having more of an eye on things than most thought, this made it easy to scapegoat dickhead Wenger when a lot of what he said was bullshit and bluster..... 'if they give me a £100M i'll hand it back' yeah right cock end, you were never getting it so it was a smoke and mirrors statement, you were giving yourself the illusion of control when Wiggy had his fist up your arse like a puppet master
When you see how tight a control he keeps on his American franchises it always didn't ring true that he ignored this one, the way the new people like Sanhelli and Edu are reported as having to run everything by Josh and Stan, makes me think they are little more than figurehead appointments who need a full on Kroenke stamp of approval before anything is decided and that in many ways Wenger was only ever a useful idiot, deluded in his own mind, a complete narcissist stupid enough to be believe his own bullshit and an illusion sustained by other useful idiots like John Cross, Keown and all the other OGL sycophants.
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I know mate. I was being a tad facetious.GoonerMuzz wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:34 amTo be honest i wasn't talking about myself, i just generalise so as not to say i told you so, go way way back into the Wenger out thread and the protest thread and you'll see i always said no point getting rid of Wenger without getting shot of Wiggy.... but the point was that i'm leaning towards Wenger being more of a yes man than was intimated by people on here and much less in control than was thought and that Wiggy was calling more of the shots than people think.DB10GOONER wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:43 pmMaybe more than you thought Muzz old mate.GoonerMuzz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:29 pmThis search for a replacement manager reminds me of OGL telling us he was working night and day to bring in super duper quality and we ended up with the likes of Mustafi and Xhaka.......
I thought we'd be done with this sort of horseshit when OGL and the lizard left, it seems that our stay away owner might have infected the place more than we thought
I always said Wenger was the symptom of a wider disease at Arsenal. That disease being the owners and board. A proper football minded ambitious owner would have shitcanned Wenger 10 years ago. We still have the disease.
People were so focussed on OGL being a odious ignorant disrespectful prick that they couldn't see beyond that to Wiggy having more of an eye on things than most thought, this made it easy to scapegoat dickhead Wenger when a lot of what he said was bullshit and bluster..... 'if they give me a £100M i'll hand it back' yeah right cock end, you were never getting it so it was a smoke and mirrors statement, you were giving yourself the illusion of control when Wiggy had his fist up your arse like a puppet master
When you see how tight a control he keeps on his American franchises it always didn't ring true that he ignored this one, the way the new people like Sanhelli and Edu are reported as having to run everything by Josh and Stan, makes me think they are little more than figurehead appointments who need a full on Kroenke stamp of approval before anything is decided and that in many ways Wenger was only ever a useful idiot, deluded in his own mind, a complete narcissist stupid enough to be believe his own bullshit and an illusion sustained by other useful idiots like John Cross, Keown and all the other OGL sycophants.
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I know the point you're making but for me that's not and never was the bigger issue. Almost everyone has a boss. I am a boss for my project team. And I have a boss and he has a boss. Part of each of our jobs is to address underperformance of our staff.Bradywasking wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:17 pmIf Wenger had been an ambitious manager he would have walked because of the board and owner...Comfort zones all round.DB10GOONER wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:47 pmOh and I'm in no way excusing Wenger of his many many crimes. But he should never have been allowed to sit there committing those crimes for so long. That rests squarely on the owner and board.
Wenger had a boss and that boss failed to address his underperformance, whether through comfort zone or cynical fuckery is an aside for me. Wenger was never going to voluntarily walk away from his 9million a year because of greed and ego and so his boss should have addressed it by sacking him.
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I do agree with you but the vicious circle of apathy suited both parties. It showed a lack of ambition and control by the board not to deal with the under performing Wenger..It was a show of greed and indifference and a lack of principle by the manager not to resign in protest at the board's indifference to the nose dive the club was taking.DB10GOONER wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:52 amI know the point you're making but for me that's not and never was the bigger issue. Almost everyone has a boss. I am a boss for my project team. And I have a boss and he has a boss. Part of each of our jobs is to address underperformance of our staff.Bradywasking wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:17 pmIf Wenger had been an ambitious manager he would have walked because of the board and owner...Comfort zones all round.DB10GOONER wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:47 pmOh and I'm in no way excusing Wenger of his many many crimes. But he should never have been allowed to sit there committing those crimes for so long. That rests squarely on the owner and board.
Wenger had a boss and that boss failed to address his underperformance, whether through comfort zone or cynical fuckery is an aside for me. Wenger was never going to voluntarily walk away from his 9million a year because of greed and ego and so his boss should have addressed it by sacking him.
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Me too.
Anceloti may indeed be past it - who knows - but I'd think there's enough top manager left in him to at least steady the ship, and get us going in the right direction. He doesn't hang around so either way he is a short term fix for maybe one to three years max, but fuck it few managers are at any club longer than three years nowadays.
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if Everton get Ancelotti and we end up with some rookie surely that will be the last straw and we'll start to see the wiggy out campaign moving forward
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German football magazine Kicker ran a story claiming that Robben, Ribery, Hummels, Boateng and Müller were particularly unhappy with Ancelotti’s relaxed training sessions and had so organised ‘secret’ high-intensity sessions behind his back.
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Latest odds
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IW8Goalmachine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:24 amif Everton get Ancelotti and we end up with some rookie surely that will be the last straw and we'll start to see the wiggy out campaign moving forward
For me it would be the ultimate white flag waving gesture - for everton to show more ambition in their pursuit for a new manager, would be a public announcement of where we as a club stand and what our plans are. Everton want to go for proven quality to step up a level or 2, whilst we are going 2 or 3 levels beneath Ancelotti on some financial cost cutting plan
Ancelotti is now a free agent and with no compensation fee, so unless we are deep in negotiations with allegri (and confident of getting him), there is no acceptable reason for not getting him
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Ancelotti not coming, it will be Vieira or Arteta, you heard it here 1st