

Whilst true the same applies for Emery, although he should have been able to have more say than Arteta will...... whether he did or not is a different story
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rodders999 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:38 pmAnyone know how many games we went unbeaten during that run last season?
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Can either of you two lads point the rest of us to the posts that called every minute of the 22 game unbeaten run "luck" please? No?SteveO 35 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:52 amAll luck last season mate - every single minute of those 22 games! Not like this year's unbeaten run (the one that conveniently forgets about losing to Olympiacos so isn't actually a run at all).Gunnersaurus wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:45 pmaugie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:23 pmmcdowell42 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:44 pmI'll take a shocking performance every time if we win Augie
Agree 100% with you mc - the point I am making is that there are still some pointing to mythical improvements (see today's game thread), which are not there. We won and have made up ground on those above us, but we are still playing shit and will continue to play shit as long as the team is infiltrated by sub-standard c.unts like xhaka, and ozil, and players like pepe who are not good enough -
The goalposts move regularly, the previous manager won a lot of games in his first year but that was never enough, it needed to be like 1970s Brazil or the 3 points were devalued, now we will take a win even if the performance is shocking.![]()
City up next and we'll see how the luck carries on against Wolves, Leicester, Scum and Mickeys next month
While you're researching it would be handy too if someone could find out how many shots Watford had against us earlier in the season too - a rarely mentioned stat round these partsDB10GOONER wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:19 amrodders999 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:38 pmAnyone know how many games we went unbeaten during that run last season?
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SteveO 35 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:33 amWhile you're researching it would be handy too if someone could find out how many shots Watford had against us earlier in the season too - a rarely mentioned stat round these partsDB10GOONER wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:19 amrodders999 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:38 pmAnyone know how many games we went unbeaten during that run last season?
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The unbeaten run that this forum wants airbrushed from history started at Emery's 3rd game in charge (the first two being against the champions from the previous two seasons), but yet those same folk who now say what a load of shit it was are saying its way too early to be judging Arteta. How that works god only knows...gooner265 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:55 amQuite simply whether you are for or against either manager you have to give him the same time as Emery was allowed before you can compare the two . The problem is two things here , firstly no-one wanted Arteta so he is being judged more harshly than Emery when he first arrive and secondly he is giving second chances to players most fans despise and wanted gone .This doesn't win him any friends and buy him time , if he had dropped and alienated all three I think he would be getting more sympathy.
Interesting points as always mate.SteveO 35 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:36 pmThe unbeaten run that this forum wants airbrushed from history started at Emery's 3rd game in charge (the first two being against the champions from the previous two seasons), but yet those same folk who now say what a load of shit it was are saying its way too early to be judging Arteta. How that works god only knows...gooner265 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:55 amQuite simply whether you are for or against either manager you have to give him the same time as Emery was allowed before you can compare the two . The problem is two things here , firstly no-one wanted Arteta so he is being judged more harshly than Emery when he first arrive and secondly he is giving second chances to players most fans despise and wanted gone .This doesn't win him any friends and buy him time , if he had dropped and alienated all three I think he would be getting more sympathy.
I didn't want Arteta as manager but it doesn't mean I won't be humble enough if he outperforms Emery and leads us to better things, to come out and say I was wrong.
Emery lost 2 of his first 24 games as manager - against a City side that went on and got 100 points and a very unlucky, narrow defeat at the Chavs (where Comedy Iwobi couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo). Arteta has lost 2 of his first 14 - one also against the Chavs which was his first game, and other against Olympiacos which was as shambolic display as I've seen in seasons. If he goes on to lead us through April not having lost any of those fixtures and in line for a CL place then I will gladly eat huge helpings of humble pie and say what an amazing job he has done. I like the bloke - did as a player, and no axe to grind with him as person or even his philosophy for playing the game. City probably are missing him as a coach. I just think a transitional Arsenal like this with a c.unt of an owner is such a massive gamble for a first timer. Pep cut his teeth on a Barca side that had the finest player on the planet, and a midfield that won everything for club and country. Arteta has got the players Dick couldn't offload and a few promising kids. If he gets us into a CL finish, I'd say he's done a better job than the early days of Pep's.
I do also agree with your point about the players he has restored and that is my main gripe. I read the West Ham thread and saw Xhaka coming in for the sort of stick again that he did under previous managers. He was absolutely gone (even if on loan) in the January window, probably along with Mustafi and possibly Lacazette too. I haven't seen anything that would make me change my views on those 3 over the past few weeks so that feels like a missed opportunity. Whilst some might say they deserve to be given a clean slate, in this day and age where you can watch footage of every minute of every game, I believe its a sad mistake to be reinstating a bloke who has played 100+ times and who for the best part has been shit every time
Steve mate you are just making stuff up now ffs!SteveO 35 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:36 pmThe unbeaten run that this forum wants airbrushed from history started at Emery's 3rd game in charge (the first two being against the champions from the previous two seasons), but yet those same folk who now say what a load of shit it was are saying its way too early to be judging Arteta. How that works god only knows...gooner265 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:55 amQuite simply whether you are for or against either manager you have to give him the same time as Emery was allowed before you can compare the two . The problem is two things here , firstly no-one wanted Arteta so he is being judged more harshly than Emery when he first arrive and secondly he is giving second chances to players most fans despise and wanted gone .This doesn't win him any friends and buy him time , if he had dropped and alienated all three I think he would be getting more sympathy.