nut flush gooner wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:40 am
augie wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:12 pm
nut flush gooner wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:08 pm
Wednesday might have been a bit of a freak result but no doubt today was the real deal.
The club has to back Arteta. He is improving bang average players
, what could he do with a bit of class to complement our attack.
Which one's exactly ? Dunno about you but I have seen many howlers from mustafi, luiz and xhaka both before arteta arrived and since he took over, so tell me what average player is he improving ??
Fcuk me we dont half get carried away with one (outstanding) result
I knew that few line would get a response from you Augie.
How can you honestly not say that over time Xhaka has not improved, he was that defensive shield we needed last night. Luiz was immense certainly playing miles better than in the league game vs City.
Mustafi made some big errors last weekend, but overall has got more secure.
It's almost as if you have an agenda now where you want Arteta to fail just to prove a point. As things stand Arteta has the team onside, has dealt with the dissenters and now tactically out thought arguably the best manager in the world over the last 10 years.
He needs to be backed by the board, but don't have a go at him before he even has a chance to impose himself on the team and put his side out. That's just being fickle in my book.
I will reiterate Arteta wasn't my choice it was Nuno a top draw manager who people ridiculed on here. Despite that it was a bold move by the board to put a rookie like Arteta in, but we could have done a lot worse.
Firstly, and this is not aimed at you as such, but it is very easy on here to label someone as having an agenda against a manager/player/the club itself, just because they dont buy into certain narratives being put forward by the majority, and have the audacity to express their opposition. Recently I have been in a regular debate with several posters on the merits of guendouzi, but at no stage have I ever suggested that any of those posters have an agenda against the young french kid - contrasting opinions doesnt mean that people want different end products, and in our case that is a club that once again is challenging for and winning the top prizes
As regards arteta I will still say that I have zero faith in the guy as a manager - last night was the type of performance that I have wanted for such a long time, but it comes just 16 days after a piss poor game against the scum. What is it that changed ? 10 of last night's team started that game, and the system/formation remained the same, so what made last night's performance different ? The difference for me was that last night the application and concentration was bang on from the players almost from minute one, and that is a rarity I can tell you. Do I expect arteta to get that out of them every week ? No I do not because some are simply not good enough and I wont blame arteta for that, but what I will blame arteta for is this unexplainable faith he is showing in players like mustafi and xhaka ahead of holding and torreira (and I am only using them as an example), despite numerous fcuk ups. Two weeks ago luiz was the biggest c.unt ever to play for the club (according to some), and now last night he is a born again quality player ? Do me a favour
The thing about backing arteta in the transfer market is that I have no trust in his judgement of players - some are saying the guy needs time to put his own stamp on the team and that is fair enough, but how can I have faith in a guy that rates mustafi as better than holding (again I am using only one example) ? Most of you seem to have this puzzling belief that arteta will go out and buy players to replace the likes of mustafi and xhaka, where as I believe that he will be going out to buy players to play WITH these players. Surely any manager would be selling the players he doesnt rate (holding, torreira, guendouzi etc) ahead of selling the players that he picks every week ? We are not in a financial place where we can offload all of the aforementioned players, so how will the arteta supporters feel when he stays loyal to the players most want gone out of our club ?
Let's be honest here ......... on paper we have a team that most weeks isnt fit to play on the same pitch as citeeh and the victims, but yet we have beaten both in the last 5 days. We have been extremely fortunate that the victims have been in snooze mode since the league was won, and yesterday was the poorest performance that citeeh have turned in for a looong time. That being said, I care more about what our players and team do, and last night was a very refreshing and welcome throwback to the days when we played with guts and resilience, and it made me proud again to be a Gooner after so many capitulations and lame ass surrenders