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SteveO 35 wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:47 am
nut flush gooner wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:40 am
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TeeCee wrote:
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I played golf with a guy from my village on Wednesday, I drove us there. Got a msg from him last night saying he was tested positive for COVID yesterday FFS. Now I have to isolate for a couple of weeks and I’m a little nervous as I was diagnosed with chronic asthma a couple of weeks back so my breathing is shit to start with!

Fingers crossed by some miracle I don’t have it, am going to try to get a test on Tuesday. :shock: :?
Hope everything is ok mate. If you have compromised respiratory issues have a word with your quack about Vitamin D. Our useless NHS still isn’t providing guidance about taking supplements over the winter. There have been several peer reviewed studies that show low Vit D levels can put people at high risk of ARDS/Cytokine storms In the lungs. Covid leads to these conditions and its these types of issues that even if you survive cause the long covid. Taking Vitamin D is a no brainer with the right medical guidance imo and not expensive. Unfortunately we wont have good enough weather until next April to get it from the sun.
Its interesting what you say about Vitamin D, and as someone who has taken a vitamin D pill every day now for over 3 years I have only good things to say about it. Just over 3 years ago, I was in a constant cycle of feeling under the weather - if there was a flu bug, cough/cold etc going around I would pick it up. I felt tired and lethargic all the time, to the point in the end I felt compelled to visit the docs for the first time in years. I went for blood tests and it was confirmed that my vitamin D levels were in his words "far too low". As you say, at this time of the year with precious little natural sunlight in these parts, you face six months or so of not getting it from natural sources. I've barely had a cough, cold or sniffle since and feel 100x better - one tiny little tablet every day. Perhaps I'm just lucky or its just a coincidence but it has made me read up on it a bit more ever since, and the amount of acclaimed medics out there saying that they can't believe how little our government (and others) does to promote it.

I'm not a medical expert but it supposedly provides a natural boost to your immune system and when I've visited countries like Norway and Sweden during winter, virtually everyone up there takes the tablets, particularly at this time of year when sunlight is restricted to minimal hours. When i speak to guys up there they get surprised that it just isn't something we do every day i.e. take a tablet to boost levels.

I hope it works for you. I'm sure it won't get rid of serious underlying issues but it certainly will boost your immune system
I've been diagnosed with chronic Vitamin D deficiency over the last few years. Prior to the diagnosis, I used to get eye infections without fail every winter, and a nasty cold. One year even had a nasty chest infection. Last Autumn had a blood test and was put on a super boosting 2-week course of 20000 IU per day from memory which is ridiculously high. In the summer I sat in the garden and sunbathed a lot, now on 4000 IU which is higher than the recommended dose, but I am convinced that given I have been in loads of high risk settings since March I have dodged a few bullets for COVID, more importantly, I haven't had a cold for 2 years or any eye infections. I am totally sold on Vitamin D.

The way I look at it, if you take the NHS recommended dosage of Vit D you can't do yourself any harm and you could prevent something nasty from happening this winter.

I saw the government report on BAME covid deaths over the last few days, fuck me not one mention of Vitamin D which it is known that as a group BAME are generally deficient. It's borderline criminal when cock face Matt dismisses it in parliament only to be corrected by a Doctor on the other side. This is what we are battling with.
Thanks for sharing mate, and glad to hear its doing you lots of good. I clearly didn't have anything like as bad as you had but simply taking the 1000 IU tablet every day has worked wonders for me. I'm not one for conspiracy theories usually, but it does make me wonder why this isn't ever mentioned in simple guidance. Lets take good diet and battling obesity as a given - anyone who doesn't know that's a good thing, must be living in a cave (or perhaps Stoke). Like you say, even if it was an intake of the recommended daily dose and no more, why wouldn't that be on some sort of fact sheet or landing page when you visit the government website? I have no idea whether I've had COVID or not. However, I do know that I'm giving myself more chances to boost my immune system naturally in the event that i do catch it. Now you mention the infections, if I went back over a further period of time I also contracted sinus and chest infections - thankfully neither have recurred since the Vitamin D intake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCSXNGc ... hnCampbell

This is a retired NHS academic talking about Vit D and its interaction with COVID complications. It's a long video but you don't need to be medically inclined to get the gist of what he's saying.

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Had my test results back an hour ago by email, it’s negative. I’m over the moon, was convinced I must have it after sharing a car with the guy for over an hour.
Cheers for the info on vitamin D mate, I had read a little about it. Luckily I live in SW France so still a fair bit of sun to absorb here! :D :barscarf:

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TeeCee wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:06 pm
Had my test results back an hour ago by email, it’s negative. I’m over the moon, was convinced I must have it after sharing a car with the guy for over an hour.
Cheers for the info on vitamin D mate, I had read a little about it. Luckily I live in SW France so still a fair bit of sun to absorb here! :D :barscarf:
Great news mate. 8)

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Good news TeeCee.

Apparently the R rate here in London is now rocketing up towards 3 !
Shows how rubbish this tier system is.

I really think Boris has lost control of this virus AGAIN!
It is so obvious that we should have had a tough lockdown in this country to stem the spread of the second wave.
Probably too late now - oh well looks like the UK will retain its title as European champions for having the highest death rate again.

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Cheers fella’s.

It does look like UK are making a pigs ear of it, no surprise with Boris ‘Flip-Flop’ Johnson in charge. I really don’t get partial restrictions, closing pubs etc at a certain time FFS. No surprise we’ve gone into full lockdown here (France) again from tonight, I’m all for it, the numbers call for drastic action.

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Another 82,000 job losses announced in the UK in the past couple of days - still lets lock everything down again and drive youth unemployment, suicide and mental health issues through the roof and remove everyone's social freedoms.

Massive difference this time round is the difference between the 80% furlough scheme which saw 9m people's wages paid at peak, and the bullshit system being introduced to replace it which basically means an employer needs to pay 67% of wages for 33% of hours worked. My company and thousands of others can't afford that, so we all know what the alternative is

Still massive surplus of capacity in our hospitals. Just hope the rest of our social services aren't overwhelmed by the fall out from generational unemployment, poverty and the other related issues that everyone seems to be advocating when they just say "lock everything down"

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Please check out a story on the BBC northern ireland web page.
Regarding Aaron Doherty, a young Derry boy who died this week, the hysteria driven national media reported his death as the “youngest covid death in northern ireland”
This is happening with thousands of deaths to exaggerate covid figures.
Sorry I can’t post a link!

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goonersid wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:40 pm
Please check out a story on the BBC northern ireland web page.
Regarding Aaron Doherty, a young Derry boy who died this week, the hysteria driven national media reported his death as the “youngest covid death in northern ireland”
This is happening with thousands of deaths to exaggerate covid figures.
Sorry I can’t post a link!
Dont know if this link will work Sid.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern- ... t-54731262

Interesting to read that at the time of death he was negative although still recorded as a covid linked death.

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it is certainly all getting very confusing.
rumours now that London will be in tier 3 in a couple of weeks time.

meanwhile my office are trying to organise a Christmas party arguing that it is ok to meet up in groups of six indoors for a work do :roll:
I just think this is crazy to even consider this at the moment. Meanwhile In France you are only now allowed out for an hour a day!

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Not wanting to feel left out, had a fever for the last few days and body aches. I think I picked something up at the hospital last weekend. Just gone for a test. No cough yet, but if it does come then I will be worried. Still taking that Vit d, if this is the worst of it I will be sold on Vit D forever. In self-isolation until next weekend. If I was Sid I would be partying like its 1999 and not give a shit about anyone else apart from myself.

For all those people who think it's just a question of keeping out the way, this is proof that it will never work in this country to control the spread of the virus. Way too many selfish people that can't even wear masks properly in a medical setting. I've reported this to my consultant at North Middlesex.

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was in a supermarket harrogate the other day, 50% of thick as shit yorkies wearing maskes but over the mouth only, nose uncovered. 2 on their mobiles in the shop (middle aged woman) with masked pulled down.

biggets probelm we have isnt the politics, isnt the decisions or lack of its the selfishness, entitledness and im alright jack attitude of a significant portion of the population, young and old poor and rich. if we cant even do the simplest things (even if they only make a tiny differnce) what hope is there whatever policies are put in place!

im sure it wasnt like this as a kid in the 80's/90's... is it a curse of modern 'celebrity' culture? brought on by the cretin blair and his 'progressive' policies?

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Hope you’re ok Nut Flush.
For me, the problems all stem from one thing, a lack of respect. No respect for other people, no respect for property, it’s been a problem in the UK that’s been getting worse year on year for a long time. There’s no answer unless parents deal with it but a lot of them can’t be arsed.

I’ve lived in France for a few years now and I’ve always said the same thing, France is about 40 years behind the UK in many things, and one of them is the fact that in general, people here have huge respect for each other and peoples property, not to mention the country as there’s very little rubbish thrown about if any. I probably sound like a right old man but it’s amazing here, so much respect and I love it. I can’t see an easy answer for the UK because younger kids don’t give a fuck and they all live in a reality TV fantasy world. Unless everyone pulls in the same direction there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

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TeeCee wrote:
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Hope you’re ok Nut Flush.
For me, the problems all stem from one thing, a lack of respect. No respect for other people, no respect for property, it’s been a problem in the UK that’s been getting worse year on year for a long time. There’s no answer unless parents deal with it but a lot of them can’t be arsed.

I’ve lived in France for a few years now and I’ve always said the same thing, France is about 40 years behind the UK in many things, and one of them is the fact that in general, people here have huge respect for each other and peoples property, not to mention the country as there’s very little rubbish thrown about if any. I probably sound like a right old man but it’s amazing here, so much respect and I love it. I can’t see an easy answer for the UK because younger kids don’t give a fuck and they all live in a reality TV fantasy world. Unless everyone pulls in the same direction there is no light at the end of the tunnel.
Not all youngsters mate, and I'm going to make a stand here. I've got 2 sons - ages 20 and 16. They both behaved impeccably during the lockdown. The eldest lad has been with his girlfriend for 4 years, and they went months without seeing each other because they said it was the right thing to do and respected the law. The youngest lad has lost every bit of enjoyment he had from performing arts, concerts etc and has taken it all in his stride. They are both desperate to see their grandparents who are in their 70s but desperately worried about infecting them and said they would never forgive themselves

Every generation has a cross section of utter arseholes. I'm not saying my lads are angels by any stretch, but I would say that it weighs heavily on them when the young get blamed for everything. I don't think I'd have been as controlled as they have been when I was 16 or 20 and lost all my social pursuits at an age when playing football, going to the pub and socialising meant everything

Like most things, and as you mentioned at the starts, it's in the parenting. Most people say there's no such thing as a bad dog, just a bad owner. Often if you look at a "bad kid"'s parents you'll find the answer. Not always, but often

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Sounds like national lockdown for those of us in England, likely to be announced on Monday

Pray for the 9m whose wages won't be picked up this time round and the social services that support them that have been ignored and underfunded whilst everyone focuses on one thing only. That's before we consider every business that will close for a month leading up to the period where they earn the majority of all their annual trade. Still I'm sure its worth wrecking the livelihoods, mental health and ultimate the lives of millions to save the 0.32% likely to lose their lives when infected and where underlying health conditions would like see winter flu, pneumonia and other seasonal infections see the usual winter spike of deaths.

Thousands more 'non urgent' operations to be postponed for months on end too which had some very interesting definitions of what was deemed 'non essential'. I'll tell the mother in law again that her hearing isn't important when she's ordered to sit at home all day with just the TV for company for weeks on end.

Of course if the massive excess of private health beds had been bought up by the Government to go with the Nightingales, the chance of overwhelming the healthcare sector would drop significantly

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Yep, Boris is about to hit the panic button, isn't he? It beggars belief nothing was learned from the first wave.

So much for following the science, or in Boris' case follow the science one month too late. I think they have little choice but to underwrite jobs until next April now. Pay for it over the next 50 years. One thing though, people need to sort their shit out quick, it's not just incompetent government at play here.

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