Clash, brilliant post and all your points raised many of the items I have been saying to friends, family and past colleagues. I unfortunately lost my business in Aerospace after 20 years building it up and I lost it all in June, along with that 12 employees we had to let go. That was shit I can tell.Clash wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:50 pmSorry to hear you and your missus went through that Jock. Glad to hear she was given the all-clear.Jock Gooner wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:55 pm
Absolutely spot on Sid. My missus had her first breast screening a couple of weeks ago and got a call back The call back rate is 4 out of 100 so we were shitting ourselves.
Trust me Covid wasn't even on our radar when we were driving into the hospital, didn't give it a fu.cking second thought. Thankfully after the recall she was given the all clear so we were lucky but covid....fuck covid.
We can't continue to fu.ck about with society with lockdowns every 2 minutes when Boris throws a wobbly.
Are we going to have daily death counts on the news for all diseases this winter to make it more interesting? Seems a bit unfair that nobody gave two shits about the 50,000 that used to die from flu in the winter or all the pneumonia deaths unreported.
It is a real-life reminder that life isn’t just about COVID-19 though. It seems like for many people, stopping the spread of the virus has become all-consuming.
Totally agree with what you say about lock-downs and how it seems unfair to ignore all the deaths from other causes. A few months back the news was reporting the daily corona-virus death total. This was unprecedented. Then when the numbers fell to single figures, they started reporting the infection rate instead. Never have we heard the figures of those who have died or suffered as a consequence of these lock-down measures though.
There is an actual government figure on a government website that I have not heard mentioned on the news. It is that in the UK, less than 400 people under the age of 65 who didn’t have pre-existing health issues, have died with (but not necessarily from) corona-virus. The number of people who have died because the country was shutdown could be a many times that number so what has been achieved?! They are the forgotten victims in this. It is not just about other illnesses either, apparently suicide rates have doubled. And what do people think the threat of a £10,000 fine if you break the rules is achieving other than causing law abiding people, especially the elderly, to live in a constant state of panic?
Some of this stuff is disgraceful and I think people should be able to question it! I’m not trying to sound heartless. On the contrary I am aware that in extreme cases this virus sounds horrific. But then so is dying from cancer … and I wonder how many people will suffer from that in future because their treatment was put on hold or because they didn’t get the early diagnosis that could have made all the difference further down the line.
I understand people saying we need to accept the changes and comply with the new regulations but in some areas they are NOT simply harmless sacrifices we are making. In other areas they are just pointless. The rule of 6 and 10pm curfews ffs! So 6 people are safe at 9.59pm but when person number 7 turns up and the clocks strikes 10.01pm suddenly it’s every man for himself . I know it’s easy to make a loft of rules sound absurd if you break them down but this one is obviously nonsense! There will always be people who refuse to comply no matter what. This type of thing though is the government equivalent of the teacher punishing the whole class because they couldn’t control the few unruly ones.
Sid’s point about the onus being on the vulnerable or those who know someone who is vulnerable, is bang on. He definitely has a way of cutting through the bullshit!
Along I know of more people to whom have died on strokes, cancer and other such illnesses.
I now and have been checking out the O.N.S. website and there daily death toll numbers and it's extremely low compared to other illness.
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