Fulham Fartpipes A Prem lge Sat 12th Sept KO 1230

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Interesting what Elneny said " in the past Arsenal always liked to play football but didnt care enough about giving 100%, now every one does including the kit man".A lot of peoples suspicion that the club was being run like a holiday camp was proved correct with that statement.

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Good win on the first day of the season. Auba's goal with Willian's assist was awesome!!
Well done to Gabriel on his debut too.
Gabriel joins a list of Arsenal players who scored on their Premier League debut..Adebayor, Nasri, Lacazette, Vermaelen, Aubameyang...any more?
Cedric and Ljungberg

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John F wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:06 am
Interesting what Elneny said " in the past Arsenal always liked to play football but didnt care enough about giving 100%, now every one does including the kit man".A lot of peoples suspicion that the club was being run like a holiday camp was proved correct with that statement.
Yet they were all happy to be part of the holiday camp, take the money and enjoy the ride..For this new found rehabilitation to be complete one player, past or present, must do more than identify the reason for the malaise, they must identify the cause. Then all those well paid experts in print and broadcast media might actually regret calling the fans fools and telling them to be careful what they wished for.

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Bradywasking wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:22 am
John F wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:06 am
Interesting what Elneny said " in the past Arsenal always liked to play football but didnt care enough about giving 100%, now every one does including the kit man".A lot of peoples suspicion that the club was being run like a holiday camp was proved correct with that statement.
Yet they were all happy to be part of the holiday camp, take the money and enjoy the ride..For this new found rehabilitation to be complete one player, past or present, must do more than identify the reason for the malaise, they must identify the cause. Then all those well paid experts in print and broadcast media might actually regret calling the fans fools and telling them to be careful what they wished for.



The media and many fans are commending arteta for gaining more power over the summer (and rightly so) and a journo a few mins ago on ssn said that he now has the level of power that emery did - why then do those same fans and media pin the blame on our situation last season on emery when they are acknowledging that emery had fcuk all power ?? :?
I'm still not convinced about arteta but I absolutely 100% applaud him for the way he has fought for more control as manager in a way that emery should have done

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augie wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:54 am
Bradywasking wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:22 am
John F wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:06 am
Interesting what Elneny said " in the past Arsenal always liked to play football but didnt care enough about giving 100%, now every one does including the kit man".A lot of peoples suspicion that the club was being run like a holiday camp was proved correct with that statement.
Yet they were all happy to be part of the holiday camp, take the money and enjoy the ride..For this new found rehabilitation to be complete one player, past or present, must do more than identify the reason for the malaise, they must identify the cause. Then all those well paid experts in print and broadcast media might actually regret calling the fans fools and telling them to be careful what they wished for.



The media and many fans are commending arteta for gaining more power over the summer (and rightly so) and a journo a few mins ago on ssn said that he now has the level of power that emery did - why then do those same fans and media pin the blame on our situation last season on emery when they are acknowledging that emery had fcuk all power ?? :?
I'm still not convinced about arteta but I absolutely 100% applaud him for the way he has fought for more control as manager in a way that emery should have done
Just to clarify Augie, I am not blaming Emery, I blame his predecessor and the Kronkes for the ten years before Emery. I liked Emery, in hindsight he wasn't the man for the job but when you read Elneny's comments you realise what Emery had to deal with.

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Bradywasking wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:13 am
augie wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:54 am
Bradywasking wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:22 am
John F wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:06 am
Interesting what Elneny said " in the past Arsenal always liked to play football but didnt care enough about giving 100%, now every one does including the kit man".A lot of peoples suspicion that the club was being run like a holiday camp was proved correct with that statement.
Yet they were all happy to be part of the holiday camp, take the money and enjoy the ride..For this new found rehabilitation to be complete one player, past or present, must do more than identify the reason for the malaise, they must identify the cause. Then all those well paid experts in print and broadcast media might actually regret calling the fans fools and telling them to be careful what they wished for.



The media and many fans are commending arteta for gaining more power over the summer (and rightly so) and a journo a few mins ago on ssn said that he now has the level of power that emery did - why then do those same fans and media pin the blame on our situation last season on emery when they are acknowledging that emery had fcuk all power ?? :?
I'm still not convinced about arteta but I absolutely 100% applaud him for the way he has fought for more control as manager in a way that emery should have done
Just to clarify Augie, I am not blaming Emery, I blame his predecessor and the Kronkes for the ten years before Emery. I liked Emery, in hindsight he wasn't the man for the job but when you read Elneny's comments you realise what Emery had to deal with.
I would imagine he was on about the Wenger period and probably witnessed Dick trying to sort out the culture of the club before going on loan.How Arteta would of coped inheriting that mess no one knows but he probably is thankful that Dick was the buffer between him and Wenger.

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