The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

[nut flush gooner]

You know Rob the independants give me hope about UK politics, at last a business friendly socially conscious group of people who want to offer something different to the main two parties.

Labour have a rudderless leader in Corbyn who has more allegiances with Moscow than he does with the EU. Not forgetting his handling of anti semitism which is rife in the Labour Party. Then the Tories who where always the party of business until the right wingers started to dictate to TM about the terms of brexit, the shit is hitting the fan as we speak but none of them care about anything other than their own careers.

I listened to Anna Soubry on LBC today, and I just couldnt get over how much common sense she speaks. Chuka Umunna no doubt should have been Labour leader, they might actually have won the election last year but in a way thats a blessing that Corbyn didnt stand down, he (Umunna) is now involved in a group of progressive forward thinking people. I just hope they can form a new party that gives the status quo a kick up the back side.

There shouldnt be another referendum really, but for me the way some brexiteers have behaved especially the far right it would be karma to have another ballot with remain as an option. I suspect with a lot of manufacturing jobs going this year it may really focus peoples minds before they make a commitment to vote leave again if asked to do so.

The independent Group are a bunch of Political nonentities with the exception of the vile creep Chuka and none of them would win a seat as an independent .
Ante semitism isnt rife in the Labour party but there is considerable anti Israeli sentiment that's a massive difference .
The Israelis have been paying people within the Labour party ever since Corbyn was elected to undermine his leadership because they are deeply afraid of him becoming prime minister and they might not be able to murder palistinians with impunity if he was PM .
The Whole anti semite bullshit is as false as the "bullying" bullshit the blarites tried when seeking to stop Corbyn becoming elected .
All of the group were elected under a manifesto that there would be no 2nd vote but the moment they were elected they have tried along with Theresa May to make sure Brexit doesnt happen.
Labour is in turmoil because of the parlimentary MPs' refusal to accept Corbyn as a leader despite the overwhelming support he has from the membership .
There is nothing moral about these people if they had any integrity they would take their chances on a by election ,but they won't because they would lose .
There is also nothing right wing about a hard Brexit ,it's common sense when faced with the intransegence of the Eu and should have been prepared for 2 years ago .
I'd honestly never heard of Anna Soubry untill she resigned ,but Il read up on her !

Sorry Rob, this is exactly why I won't go on marches for a "peoples vote", people like you who clearly are Corbyn supporters can't accept there are massive issues in the Labour Party.

It's not for you to say whether there is antisemitism going on in the Labour party, it's for people like Luciana Berger who has been viciously abused online by Labour activists. You don't have to go far to see that the abuse is deeper than an anti-Israel sentiment.

There are now 9 Labour MP's who have resigned from the Labour Party this week. Can you honestly blame them with a rudderless leader like Corbyn who is a known to have voted against every EU Treaty proposed in Parliament. And yet people like you support the Labour Party.

The independents are a breath of fresh air, they will never command a majority in UK politics but they can give those that act against the best interests of the UK and by that I mean the ERG and the likes of Jeremy Corbyn a bloody nose. As things stand it looks like its the Labour Party that is going to suffer more. In an election where they celebrated coming 2nd (Arsene Wenger analogy possibly), their worst Leader since Michael Foot is a joke brexiteer who can't even bring himself to admit it, for fear of alienating his party against millions of Labour supporters who voted brexit.

For someone who is a remainer, your debate is lame to put it lightly. You describe Chuka Umunna as a vile creep, well he's well educated and more articulate/statesman like than anything you have in the Labour party. And he's a socialist (or was) that understands business, you know something Labour have failed to understand for decades. They would rather waste money to create a false economy, rather than encourage business to create true wealth that trickles down to all sectors of the economy.

[Gunner Rob]

nutflush - Herd wrote that pile of crap by the way

I am certainly NOT a Corbyn supporter, and I agree with you that the new independent MPs are a breath of fresh air in British politics.

[rich31]

You know Rob the independants give me hope about UK politics, at last a business friendly socially conscious group of people who want to offer something different to the main two parties.

Labour have a rudderless leader in Corbyn who has more allegiances with Moscow than he does with the EU. Not forgetting his handling of anti semitism which is rife in the Labour Party. Then the Tories who where always the party of business until the right wingers started to dictate to TM about the terms of brexit, the shit is hitting the fan as we speak but none of them care about anything other than their own careers.

I listened to Anna Soubry on LBC today, and I just couldnt get over how much common sense she speaks. Chuka Umunna no doubt should have been Labour leader, they might actually have won the election last year but in a way thats a blessing that Corbyn didnt stand down, he (Umunna) is now involved in a group of progressive forward thinking people. I just hope they can form a new party that gives the status quo a kick up the back side.

There shouldnt be another referendum really, but for me the way some brexiteers have behaved especially the far right it would be karma to have another ballot with remain as an option. I suspect with a lot of manufacturing jobs going this year it may really focus peoples minds before they make a commitment to vote leave again if asked to do so.

The independent Group are a bunch of Political nonentities with the exception of the vile creep Chuka and none of them would win a seat as an independent .
Ante semitism isnt rife in the Labour party but there is considerable anti Israeli sentiment that's a massive difference .
The Israelis have been paying people within the Labour party ever since Corbyn was elected to undermine his leadership because they are deeply afraid of him becoming prime minister and they might not be able to murder palistinians with impunity if he was PM .
The Whole anti semite bullshit is as false as the "bullying" bullshit the blarites tried when seeking to stop Corbyn becoming elected .
All of the group were elected under a manifesto that there would be no 2nd vote but the moment they were elected they have tried along with Theresa May to make sure Brexit doesnt happen.
Labour is in turmoil because of the parlimentary MPs' refusal to accept Corbyn as a leader despite the overwhelming support he has from the membership .
There is nothing moral about these people if they had any integrity they would take their chances on a by election ,but they won't because they would lose .
There is also nothing right wing about a hard Brexit ,it's common sense when faced with the intransegence of the Eu and should have been prepared for 2 years ago .
I'd honestly never heard of Anna Soubry untill she resigned ,but Il read up on her !

Sorry Rob, this is exactly why I won't go on marches for a "peoples vote", people like you who clearly are Corbyn supporters can't accept there are massive issues in the Labour Party.

It's not for you to say whether there is antisemitism going on in the Labour party, it's for people like Luciana Berger who has been viciously abused online by Labour activists. You don't have to go far to see that the abuse is deeper than an anti-Israel sentiment.

There are now 9 Labour MP's who have resigned from the Labour Party this week. Can you honestly blame them with a rudderless leader like Corbyn who is a known to have voted against every EU Treaty proposed in Parliament. And yet people like you support the Labour Party.

The independents are a breath of fresh air, they will never command a majority in UK politics but they can give those that act against the best interests of the UK and by that I mean the ERG and the likes of Jeremy Corbyn a bloody nose. As things stand it looks like its the Labour Party that is going to suffer more. In an election where they celebrated coming 2nd (Arsene Wenger analogy possibly), their worst Leader since Michael Foot is a joke brexiteer who can't even bring himself to admit it, for fear of alienating his party against millions of Labour supporters who voted brexit.

For someone who is a remainer, your debate is lame to put it lightly. You describe Chuka Umunna as a vile creep, well he's well educated and more articulate/statesman like than anything you have in the Labour party. And he's a socialist (or was) that understands business, you know something Labour have failed to understand for decades. They would rather waste money to create a false economy, rather than encourage business to create true wealth that trickles down to all sectors of the economy.

LOL..oh dear .In your rush to shoot down an opinion different to yours you appear to have given Rob a blast of friendly fire!

[nut flush gooner]

You know Rob the independants give me hope about UK politics, at last a business friendly socially conscious group of people who want to offer something different to the main two parties.

Labour have a rudderless leader in Corbyn who has more allegiances with Moscow than he does with the EU. Not forgetting his handling of anti semitism which is rife in the Labour Party. Then the Tories who where always the party of business until the right wingers started to dictate to TM about the terms of brexit, the shit is hitting the fan as we speak but none of them care about anything other than their own careers.

I listened to Anna Soubry on LBC today, and I just couldnt get over how much common sense she speaks. Chuka Umunna no doubt should have been Labour leader, they might actually have won the election last year but in a way thats a blessing that Corbyn didnt stand down, he (Umunna) is now involved in a group of progressive forward thinking people. I just hope they can form a new party that gives the status quo a kick up the back side.

There shouldnt be another referendum really, but for me the way some brexiteers have behaved especially the far right it would be karma to have another ballot with remain as an option. I suspect with a lot of manufacturing jobs going this year it may really focus peoples minds before they make a commitment to vote leave again if asked to do so.

The independent Group are a bunch of Political nonentities with the exception of the vile creep Chuka and none of them would win a seat as an independent .
Ante semitism isnt rife in the Labour party but there is considerable anti Israeli sentiment that's a massive difference .
The Israelis have been paying people within the Labour party ever since Corbyn was elected to undermine his leadership because they are deeply afraid of him becoming prime minister and they might not be able to murder palistinians with impunity if he was PM .
The Whole anti semite bullshit is as false as the "bullying" bullshit the blarites tried when seeking to stop Corbyn becoming elected .
All of the group were elected under a manifesto that there would be no 2nd vote but the moment they were elected they have tried along with Theresa May to make sure Brexit doesnt happen.
Labour is in turmoil because of the parlimentary MPs' refusal to accept Corbyn as a leader despite the overwhelming support he has from the membership .
There is nothing moral about these people if they had any integrity they would take their chances on a by election ,but they won't because they would lose .
There is also nothing right wing about a hard Brexit ,it's common sense when faced with the intransegence of the Eu and should have been prepared for 2 years ago .
I'd honestly never heard of Anna Soubry untill she resigned ,but Il read up on her !

Sorry Rob, this is exactly why I won't go on marches for a "peoples vote", people like you who clearly are Corbyn supporters can't accept there are massive issues in the Labour Party.

It's not for you to say whether there is antisemitism going on in the Labour party, it's for people like Luciana Berger who has been viciously abused online by Labour activists. You don't have to go far to see that the abuse is deeper than an anti-Israel sentiment.

There are now 9 Labour MP's who have resigned from the Labour Party this week. Can you honestly blame them with a rudderless leader like Corbyn who is a known to have voted against every EU Treaty proposed in Parliament. And yet people like you support the Labour Party.

The independents are a breath of fresh air, they will never command a majority in UK politics but they can give those that act against the best interests of the UK and by that I mean the ERG and the likes of Jeremy Corbyn a bloody nose. As things stand it looks like its the Labour Party that is going to suffer more. In an election where they celebrated coming 2nd (Arsene Wenger analogy possibly), their worst Leader since Michael Foot is a joke brexiteer who can't even bring himself to admit it, for fear of alienating his party against millions of Labour supporters who voted brexit.

For someone who is a remainer, your debate is lame to put it lightly. You describe Chuka Umunna as a vile creep, well he's well educated and more articulate/statesman like than anything you have in the Labour party. And he's a socialist (or was) that understands business, you know something Labour have failed to understand for decades. They would rather waste money to create a false economy, rather than encourage business to create true wealth that trickles down to all sectors of the economy.

LOL..oh dear .In your rush to shoot down an opinion different to yours you appear to have given Rob a blast of friendly fire!

Its not friendly fire though is it? There are both Socialists and Capitalists that want us to remain in the EU. Two totally different sets of ideologies and beliefs. The weird thing right now is the Socialists are denying that there is any anti semitism going on in the Labour party, when the reality is you dont need to go far to find it.

Labour supporters are in favour of the EU through the ideology of closer alignment with Europe and things like protection of workers rights, as opposed to encouraging big business.

[StuartL]

You know Rob the independants give me hope about UK politics, at last a business friendly socially conscious group of people who want to offer something different to the main two parties.

Labour have a rudderless leader in Corbyn who has more allegiances with Moscow than he does with the EU. Not forgetting his handling of anti semitism which is rife in the Labour Party. Then the Tories who where always the party of business until the right wingers started to dictate to TM about the terms of brexit, the shit is hitting the fan as we speak but none of them care about anything other than their own careers.

I listened to Anna Soubry on LBC today, and I just couldnt get over how much common sense she speaks. Chuka Umunna no doubt should have been Labour leader, they might actually have won the election last year but in a way thats a blessing that Corbyn didnt stand down, he (Umunna) is now involved in a group of progressive forward thinking people. I just hope they can form a new party that gives the status quo a kick up the back side.

There shouldnt be another referendum really, but for me the way some brexiteers have behaved especially the far right it would be karma to have another ballot with remain as an option. I suspect with a lot of manufacturing jobs going this year it may really focus peoples minds before they make a commitment to vote leave again if asked to do so.

The independent Group are a bunch of Political nonentities with the exception of the vile creep Chuka and none of them would win a seat as an independent .
Ante semitism isnt rife in the Labour party but there is considerable anti Israeli sentiment that's a massive difference .
The Israelis have been paying people within the Labour party ever since Corbyn was elected to undermine his leadership because they are deeply afraid of him becoming prime minister and they might not be able to murder palistinians with impunity if he was PM .
The Whole anti semite bullshit is as false as the "bullying" bullshit the blarites tried when seeking to stop Corbyn becoming elected .
All of the group were elected under a manifesto that there would be no 2nd vote but the moment they were elected they have tried along with Theresa May to make sure Brexit doesnt happen.
Labour is in turmoil because of the parlimentary MPs' refusal to accept Corbyn as a leader despite the overwhelming support he has from the membership .
There is nothing moral about these people if they had any integrity they would take their chances on a by election ,but they won't because they would lose .
There is also nothing right wing about a hard Brexit ,it's common sense when faced with the intransegence of the Eu and should have been prepared for 2 years ago .
I'd honestly never heard of Anna Soubry untill she resigned ,but Il read up on her !

Sorry Rob, this is exactly why I won't go on marches for a "peoples vote", people like you who clearly are Corbyn supporters can't accept there are massive issues in the Labour Party.

It's not for you to say whether there is antisemitism going on in the Labour party, it's for people like Luciana Berger who has been viciously abused online by Labour activists. You don't have to go far to see that the abuse is deeper than an anti-Israel sentiment.

There are now 9 Labour MP's who have resigned from the Labour Party this week. Can you honestly blame them with a rudderless leader like Corbyn who is a known to have voted against every EU Treaty proposed in Parliament. And yet people like you support the Labour Party.

The independents are a breath of fresh air, they will never command a majority in UK politics but they can give those that act against the best interests of the UK and by that I mean the ERG and the likes of Jeremy Corbyn a bloody nose. As things stand it looks like its the Labour Party that is going to suffer more. In an election where they celebrated coming 2nd (Arsene Wenger analogy possibly), their worst Leader since Michael Foot is a joke brexiteer who can't even bring himself to admit it, for fear of alienating his party against millions of Labour supporters who voted brexit.

For someone who is a remainer, your debate is lame to put it lightly. You describe Chuka Umunna as a vile creep, well he's well educated and more articulate/statesman like than anything you have in the Labour party. And he's a socialist (or was) that understands business, you know something Labour have failed to understand for decades. They would rather waste money to create a false economy, rather than encourage business to create true wealth that trickles down to all sectors of the economy.

LOL..oh dear .In your rush to shoot down an opinion different to yours you appear to have given Rob a blast of friendly fire!

Are you American by any chance Nut Flush ?

[nut flush gooner]

You know Rob the independants give me hope about UK politics, at last a business friendly socially conscious group of people who want to offer something different to the main two parties.

Labour have a rudderless leader in Corbyn who has more allegiances with Moscow than he does with the EU. Not forgetting his handling of anti semitism which is rife in the Labour Party. Then the Tories who where always the party of business until the right wingers started to dictate to TM about the terms of brexit, the shit is hitting the fan as we speak but none of them care about anything other than their own careers.

I listened to Anna Soubry on LBC today, and I just couldnt get over how much common sense she speaks. Chuka Umunna no doubt should have been Labour leader, they might actually have won the election last year but in a way thats a blessing that Corbyn didnt stand down, he (Umunna) is now involved in a group of progressive forward thinking people. I just hope they can form a new party that gives the status quo a kick up the back side.

There shouldnt be another referendum really, but for me the way some brexiteers have behaved especially the far right it would be karma to have another ballot with remain as an option. I suspect with a lot of manufacturing jobs going this year it may really focus peoples minds before they make a commitment to vote leave again if asked to do so.

The independent Group are a bunch of Political nonentities with the exception of the vile creep Chuka and none of them would win a seat as an independent .
Ante semitism isnt rife in the Labour party but there is considerable anti Israeli sentiment that's a massive difference .
The Israelis have been paying people within the Labour party ever since Corbyn was elected to undermine his leadership because they are deeply afraid of him becoming prime minister and they might not be able to murder palistinians with impunity if he was PM .
The Whole anti semite bullshit is as false as the "bullying" bullshit the blarites tried when seeking to stop Corbyn becoming elected .
All of the group were elected under a manifesto that there would be no 2nd vote but the moment they were elected they have tried along with Theresa May to make sure Brexit doesnt happen.
Labour is in turmoil because of the parlimentary MPs' refusal to accept Corbyn as a leader despite the overwhelming support he has from the membership .
There is nothing moral about these people if they had any integrity they would take their chances on a by election ,but they won't because they would lose .
There is also nothing right wing about a hard Brexit ,it's common sense when faced with the intransegence of the Eu and should have been prepared for 2 years ago .
I'd honestly never heard of Anna Soubry untill she resigned ,but Il read up on her !

Sorry Rob, this is exactly why I won't go on marches for a "peoples vote", people like you who clearly are Corbyn supporters can't accept there are massive issues in the Labour Party.

It's not for you to say whether there is antisemitism going on in the Labour party, it's for people like Luciana Berger who has been viciously abused online by Labour activists. You don't have to go far to see that the abuse is deeper than an anti-Israel sentiment.

There are now 9 Labour MP's who have resigned from the Labour Party this week. Can you honestly blame them with a rudderless leader like Corbyn who is a known to have voted against every EU Treaty proposed in Parliament. And yet people like you support the Labour Party.

The independents are a breath of fresh air, they will never command a majority in UK politics but they can give those that act against the best interests of the UK and by that I mean the ERG and the likes of Jeremy Corbyn a bloody nose. As things stand it looks like its the Labour Party that is going to suffer more. In an election where they celebrated coming 2nd (Arsene Wenger analogy possibly), their worst Leader since Michael Foot is a joke brexiteer who can't even bring himself to admit it, for fear of alienating his party against millions of Labour supporters who voted brexit.

For someone who is a remainer, your debate is lame to put it lightly. You describe Chuka Umunna as a vile creep, well he's well educated and more articulate/statesman like than anything you have in the Labour party. And he's a socialist (or was) that understands business, you know something Labour have failed to understand for decades. They would rather waste money to create a false economy, rather than encourage business to create true wealth that trickles down to all sectors of the economy.

LOL..oh dear .In your rush to shoot down an opinion different to yours you appear to have given Rob a blast of friendly fire!

Are you American by any chance Nut Flush ?

Not the last time I checked my passport no ! North London born and bred.

[Jock Gooner]

LOL..oh dear .In your rush to shoot down an opinion different to yours you appear to have given Rob a blast of friendly fire!

Are you American by any chance Nut Flush ?

[DB10GOONER]

Can you pillocks learn to use the quote button properly?

[Herd]

I am a left leaning type of man but I believe in out of the eu and a hard brexit at that,only by being free can we then move forward .
However there is no stone being unturned as the desperate remainers on all sides clamour to do the EU's bidding and have shown they are prepared to sacrifice the British people to make sure that democracy is subverted once again ,these are truly dark times .
This country is in deep turmoil with ALL parties being torn asunder from all directions but very few if any are doing it for we the people ,just for their own personal financial and political benefit or the biddings of their masters.
During all of this nonsense "post referendum " the public have been bombarded with propaganda from every media input possible to get government to set aside the result of the referendum, and the government itself has been trying it's best to do that too, and it may succeed too.

May has played a weak hand very well ,deliberately failing to make any contingency plans for a meaningful Brexit which contrary to the subsequent noise we knew what it was and was clearly stated by Cameron and Osbourne before we voted which was .

Out of the Single market
Out of the Customs Union
Out of the EU Laws
It could not have been more simple we knew what we voted for ,the campaign from both sides was flawed but people did know what they voted on !

As Usual Nut flush like many globalist bullshitters ,when rattled throws grenades in all directions without really knowing what he is talking about and recently in this thread ,who he is talking to, he probably can't think straight with all the crap the EU fills his head with .

One things for sure the political landscape will change forever once whatever goes down goes down as People are sick to the back teeth with the mainstream parties and with Politicians in general !

Oh and down with grammar nazi midgets too !

[Gunner Rob]

Herd - stop trying to rewrite history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGt3QmRSZY

next you will be saying that Spurs won the league in 2016

[Nos89]

The French want out now too. Amazing that the riots still continue yet no coverage in british press. I wonder why?

Also, didn't the EU just sign a free trade agreement with Japan, which contradicts their stance with the British government?

Anyway, even if there was a second referendum the vote to leave would be have a larger majority as those that i have spoken to who voted to remain, would vote to leave now because Juncker and Tusk have shown their true colours and intentions.

Really ?
And what right wing propaganda have you been reading then ?

And yes the EU have signed a free trade agreement with Japan which does give a bit of a clue as to why Japanese firms are all now moving out of the UK. They do no longer see us of any use to them

I don't think japanese car firms have announced they will relocate in europe have they?
Point is, the EU are simply lying when they declare they cannot agree a deal with the British government they have with the Japanese.
I haven't read any right wing propaganda, just have access to news networks that aren't British.

[Herd]

Herd - stop trying to rewrite history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGt3QmRSZY

next you will be saying that Spurs won the league in 2016

Dear Rob ,please be advised that Nigel Farage is not nor has ever been in the UK Government .
Take a peek at this clip which kind of tells you what the UK Governments people said Prior to Brexit .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-rkYJm8d6c
Theres many more Il try and find the one dodgy dave did which spelt it all out .

Now try and cast your mind back to how we ever got to have a referendum in the first place if you can ,it's been so long ago I forget sometimes myself.
Dodgy Dave was under a lot of pressure at home and went to Brussels to seek some relief from the millions of EU NHS and Benefit tourists and some other reforms because the last Labour government utterly failed to protect the UKs interest when the EU expanded a mistake that cost us billions .
Previously ,Germany amongst others realised the effect that the EU migrants might have and protected itself as they always do ,but here in the UK we forget and were financially punished .
Dave went to Brussels and was mugged off by the Brussels unelected elite sent home with nothing ,and thus the referendum was called .
If Brussels had ceded these very small requests we wouldn't have had a referendum but as we all know you cannot negotiate with a brick wall !

It was very clear what Brexit was what would happen and right or wrong we had a referendum with a clear result .

I realise your not very quick but please stop repeating lies for we knew what we voted for and we voted for it despite Boris and Farage not because of them !

[Gunner Rob]

Herd - stop trying to rewrite history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGt3QmRSZY

next you will be saying that Spurs won the league in 2016

Dear Rob ,please be advised that Nigel Farage is not nor has ever been in the UK Government .
Take a peek at this clip which kind of tells you what the UK Governments people said Prior to Brexit .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-rkYJm8d6c
Theres many more Il try and find the one dodgy dave did which spelt it all out .

Now try and cast your mind back to how we ever got to have a referendum in the first place if you can ,it's been so long ago I forget sometimes myself.
Dodgy Dave was under a lot of pressure at home and went to Brussels to seek some relief from the millions of EU NHS and Benefit tourists and some other reforms because the last Labour government utterly failed to protect the UKs interest when the EU expanded a mistake that cost us billions .
Previously ,Germany amongst others realised the effect that the EU migrants might have and protected itself as they always do ,but here in the UK we forget and were financially punished .
Dave went to Brussels and was mugged off by the Brussels unelected elite sent home with nothing ,and thus the referendum was called .
If Brussels had ceded these very small requests we wouldn't have had a referendum but as we all know you cannot negotiate with a brick wall !

It was very clear what Brexit was what would happen and right or wrong we had a referendum with a clear result .

I realise your not very quick but please stop repeating lies for we knew what we voted for and we voted for it despite Boris and Farage not because of them !

It doesn't matter whether Farage was in government or not. He was the unofficial leader of the Leave campaign.
The fact is people believed his lies. As soon as Leave won he said that the £350 million on the bus was a lie and then resigned from UKIP and disappeared for a while.

You say it was very clear what would happen ! You really predicted this 3 years of chaos did you ?
As for a clear result ??? Leave nearly got 52% of the vote. Hardly clear was it!
What was clear right from day 1 is that the result was not clear and that Article 50 should not have been triggered.
If we had more competent politicians that is what would have happened.

Instead we were told that doing a deal with the EU would be easy.
Yeah look how that has turned out.

Luckily the tide is now turning, and some sense is being restored - the newly formed Independent Group, the Labour party awakening from hibernation to call for a peoples vote. Hopefully it is not too late and the country can be saved from destroying itself.

[Herd]

It doesn't matter whether Farage was in government or not. He was the unofficial leader of the Leave campaign.
The fact is people believed his lies. As soon as Leave won he said that the £350 million on the bus was a lie and then resigned from UKIP and disappeared for a while. Glad you realise he had NO official mandate whatsoever ,Phew ! Now there was a lot of Pie in the Sky on all sides from Boris to Cameron so it worked out even

You say it was very clear what would happen ! You really predicted this 3 years of chaos did you ?
I said that the powers that be wouldn't let us leave or do a deal where it makes no difference and that is where we are so er yes I did
As for a clear result ??? Leave nearly got 52% of the vote. Hardly clear was it!It was a majority ie more voted leave than stay even you can understand this very concept of democracy at work
What was clear right from day 1 is that the result was not clear and that Article 50 should not have been triggered.
If we had more competent politicians that is what would have happened.er a majority is clear so yes we needed to trigger 50
If May had wished to adhere to the mandate she would have prepared for a no deal Brexit as a means of entering purposeful negotiations but she did nothing for nearly 2 years ,why because she doesn't want us to leave and had no intention of being prepared to leave . this played into the hands of the eu who have just dug their heels in ,not rocket science is it
Instead we were told that doing a deal with the EU would be easy. Its never easy when you don't prepare yourself for a negotiation
Yeah look how that has turned out. Its been a deliberate hoax from the start and has cost us dear ,it could have been done sooooo much better

Luckily the tide is now turning, and some sense is being restored - the newly formed Independent Group, the Labour party awakening from hibernation to call for a peoples vote. Hopefully it is not too late and the country can be saved from destroying itself.

Yes unfortunately Corbyn has turned out to be a liar and a fraud just like all the rest ,ive stopped my monthly payments to the labour party this very morn ,you see I can change my mind on people and politics and admit I was wrong now and again .
However I think that the public will give an even bigger vote for leave next time contrary to your thoughts

See what I did with the quotes DB ??

[Gunner Rob]

well now that we know there are no benefits to Brexit apart from the rich elite who do not want to pay corporation tax then actually the whole thing should be just called off.

if this happened you would get the majority of the country supporting this decision.