LOL, are you for real? Seriously can you even contemplate us not trading with the Germans? I can read every word of what you say, and none of it makes an ounce of sense.
At last you get it hurrah ,( I think) I wasn't saying we wouldn't trade with Germany , they are our largest trading partner in the EU . I said that if we did go for a real Brexit then Companies within the two countries would force their Governments to make a trade deal or else Both countries would suffer.
For two years you have been telling me that we couldn't make deals with the other countries in the Eu but now you have realised we can , well done !
You got the wrong end of the stick as usual but maybe theres hop for you
If the Germans have a recession it won't be any better for us. Very True that's why we need Germany and Germany needs us I id say that too try and keep up skippy
That has been my point all along, no one wins in a disorderly Brexit. The one you so desperately want.Quite the opposite a Real Brexit might be disorderly in the short term but that's only because neither side has prepared for a real Brexit . In the end it would sort itself out because business needs it too and since you agree we would need to trade and make agreements with the other countries you should see the sense in that . If we stay in the single market and customs union we are in effect still in the Eu but without the benefits which is silly so a real exit is preferable for the countries welfare, it's so simple even you might understand but
Firstly Herd, sort out how you reply to my messages it's an utter pain trying to decipher your text.
In response to your points, I would say that whilst business lobby governments even provide political parties with funding they aren't the only reason two countries decide to have a trade deal. With regards to the UK and Germany, we will never have a sole trade agreement with Germany it will be with the EU which Germany obviously are still a member.
Also I am not sure where I said that we couldn't make deals with other EU countries, but my point above applies again its never going to be with sole nations it's the whole EU block. My points about trade deals have been about non-EU countries, where I have referenced recently 8 trade deals completed out of an anticipated 40. We can't officially sign a trade deal with anyone until we are outside the EU anyway.
You say business isn't prepared for a real Brexit, well do you watch the news? There have been countless examples of companies making contingency plans for a no deal brexit, incurring additional expenses along the way.
A hard brexit on WTO rules will set this country back years. Given the lack of signed trade deals with major nations non EU trade is hardly going to take up the slack. And more importantly, the UK has done absolutely nothing to sell itself to the rest of the world. If anything a lot of major trading nations are probably looking at us right now and thinking, what a bunch of jokers we are given we can't present a unified way of leaving the EU!