I don't see arming the regular police as being a deterant, as they are hell bent on being martyred for their cause anyway, but what it could do is save some innocent lives that would be lost in waiting for armed response to get to the scene.greengooner wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:42 pmIt's new ground isn't it, a dangerous new reality, nobody knows how to deal with it, these random attacks are impossible to defend against with any success. The security forces have to be lucky all the time, the murderers only once. All I'm saying is that the methods of the past won't work, new measures have to be considered however draconian they might appear, I'd rather offended people than dead people. First step as I said in an earlier post I'd encourage is to arm the police on the street as some form of deterrence, might help or make zero positive difference but can't make the situation much worse.NickF wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:31 pmAs I said, I honestly don't know what the answer is, but when you start going on about deportation, think most of these murderers were born here. Do we not have laws already in place for inciting terrorism and preaching hate? Guantanamo Bay hasn't exactly made the world safer.greengooner wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:52 pmOk then, let's carry on with the system as it is thenNickF wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:35 pmThose people were killed by murderers. Locking innocent people up is a human right abuse. BIG f**king difference......greengooner wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:30 pm
F**k human rights, those poor people murdered on Saturday night had rights, they have nothing now.
Because it's working brilliantly isn't it, no thought given to the victims, god forbid anybody's "rights" are abused, nobody had said anything about locking up innocents, anybody spouting hatred masked in the cloak of religion deserves locking up and deportation. England has previous in the internment business if you want to cast your mind back, they weren't worried about human rights then were they?
Maybe it is time to have a radical rethink about how we do things (including our foreign policy)...
They arrived in 8 mins by all accounts, which is a fantastic response but perhaps if the closest police were armed the loss of life could have been lower ?
It wouldn't stop them, it would only be a measure to control and potentially reduce life lost.