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Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:09 am
Some great responses on here to the absolutely fucking idiotic notion of respecting the fake attention seeking media whore Klopp and the mouser scum. Well played a few of you.

As for the clowns eulogising the bloke that has lost 6 out of 7 major finals as some kind of elite managerial genius and who has not yet actually won anything with the murdering victim scum pull your fucking heads in ffs you are embarrassing everyone. :oops: :lol:

Only a modern JCL social media moron Sawker fan could think Klopp has a single genuine bone in his body. Go watch one of his numerous adverts and have a wànk to cool off. :lol: :wink:
Hate on Klopp for being an attention seeking twat (completely warranted btw) all you want and I'm not calling him a managerial genius but you can't deny that he's one of the best managers around at the moment if you consider the way Liverpool have progressed every season he's been in charge.

In his first season Klopp took Liverpool to the League Cup final and the Europa League final. In his second season they qualified for the CL and in his third season he took them to the CL final. Top of the league in his fourth season.

This is Liverpool's net spend every season since he's come in.

2015/16 - net spend £31.3 m (He came in October so these were all Rodgers' signings)
2016/17 - net spend -£4.5 m
2017/18 - net spend -£10.3 m
2018/19 - net spend £148.4 m

Total net spend £164.8 m which equates to £41.2 m per season so far.

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SydneyGooner wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:29 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:09 am
Some great responses on here to the absolutely fucking idiotic notion of respecting the fake attention seeking media whore Klopp and the mouser scum. Well played a few of you.

As for the clowns eulogising the bloke that has lost 6 out of 7 major finals as some kind of elite managerial genius and who has not yet actually won anything with the murdering victim scum pull your fucking heads in ffs you are embarrassing everyone. :oops: :lol:

Only a modern JCL social media moron Sawker fan could think Klopp has a single genuine bone in his body. Go watch one of his numerous adverts and have a wànk to cool off. :lol: :wink:
Hate on Klopp for being an attention seeking twat (completely warranted btw) all you want and I'm not calling him a managerial genius but you can't deny that he's one of the best managers around at the moment if you consider the way Liverpool have progressed every season he's been in charge.

In his first season Klopp took Liverpool to the League Cup final and the Europa League final. In his second season they qualified for the CL and in his third season he took them to the CL final. Top of the league in his fourth season.

This is Liverpool's net spend every season since he's come in.

2015/16 - net spend £31.3 m (He came in October so these were all Rodgers' signings)
2016/17 - net spend -£4.5 m
2017/18 - net spend -£10.3 m
2018/19 - net spend £148.4 m

Total net spend £164.8 m which equates to £41.2 m per season so far.
I can deny it and do. All those finals you listed? What have they in common? He lost them. Top managers win trophies. Being top at Xmas means nothing. Getting to finals means nothing unless you win them.

Ironic that on the forum that slated Wenger for financial frugality it is now fashionable to praise Klopp for the same. The same Wenger who even when past it still managed to win 3 FA Cup finals. If Klopp is considered a top manager by this modern rating system then Wenger must have been a genius in his last 5 years with us !! :lol:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:51 pm
SydneyGooner wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:29 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:09 am
Some great responses on here to the absolutely fucking idiotic notion of respecting the fake attention seeking media whore Klopp and the mouser scum. Well played a few of you.

As for the clowns eulogising the bloke that has lost 6 out of 7 major finals as some kind of elite managerial genius and who has not yet actually won anything with the murdering victim scum pull your fucking heads in ffs you are embarrassing everyone. :oops: :lol:

Only a modern JCL social media moron Sawker fan could think Klopp has a single genuine bone in his body. Go watch one of his numerous adverts and have a wànk to cool off. :lol: :wink:
Hate on Klopp for being an attention seeking twat (completely warranted btw) all you want and I'm not calling him a managerial genius but you can't deny that he's one of the best managers around at the moment if you consider the way Liverpool have progressed every season he's been in charge.

In his first season Klopp took Liverpool to the League Cup final and the Europa League final. In his second season they qualified for the CL and in his third season he took them to the CL final. Top of the league in his fourth season.

This is Liverpool's net spend every season since he's come in.

2015/16 - net spend £31.3 m (He came in October so these were all Rodgers' signings)
2016/17 - net spend -£4.5 m
2017/18 - net spend -£10.3 m
2018/19 - net spend £148.4 m

Total net spend £164.8 m which equates to £41.2 m per season so far.
I can deny it and do. All those finals you listed? What have they in common? He lost them. Top managers win trophies. Being top at Xmas means nothing. Getting to finals means nothing unless you win them.

Ironic that on the forum that slated Wenger for financial frugality it is now fashionable to praise Klopp for the same. The same Wenger who even when past it still managed to win 3 FA Cup finals. If Klopp is considered a top manager by this modern rating system then Wenger must have been a genius in his last 5 years with us !! :lol:
The point is Liverpool have progressed every season since Klopp has been in charge and they're shit defence, which was as bad as ours, is now the best in the league. You can't say the same about Wenger despite the three FA Cup wins.

If they get at least a point on Thursday at City they're winning the league barring a Newcastle '96 level capitulation of course. Would you still be in denial if Klopp did the unthinkable and won the title?

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SydneyGooner wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:21 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:51 pm
SydneyGooner wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:29 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:09 am
Some great responses on here to the absolutely fucking idiotic notion of respecting the fake attention seeking media whore Klopp and the mouser scum. Well played a few of you.

As for the clowns eulogising the bloke that has lost 6 out of 7 major finals as some kind of elite managerial genius and who has not yet actually won anything with the murdering victim scum pull your fucking heads in ffs you are embarrassing everyone. :oops: :lol:

Only a modern JCL social media moron Sawker fan could think Klopp has a single genuine bone in his body. Go watch one of his numerous adverts and have a wànk to cool off. :lol: :wink:
Hate on Klopp for being an attention seeking twat (completely warranted btw) all you want and I'm not calling him a managerial genius but you can't deny that he's one of the best managers around at the moment if you consider the way Liverpool have progressed every season he's been in charge.

In his first season Klopp took Liverpool to the League Cup final and the Europa League final. In his second season they qualified for the CL and in his third season he took them to the CL final. Top of the league in his fourth season.

This is Liverpool's net spend every season since he's come in.

2015/16 - net spend £31.3 m (He came in October so these were all Rodgers' signings)
2016/17 - net spend -£4.5 m
2017/18 - net spend -£10.3 m
2018/19 - net spend £148.4 m

Total net spend £164.8 m which equates to £41.2 m per season so far.
I can deny it and do. All those finals you listed? What have they in common? He lost them. Top managers win trophies. Being top at Xmas means nothing. Getting to finals means nothing unless you win them.

Ironic that on the forum that slated Wenger for financial frugality it is now fashionable to praise Klopp for the same. The same Wenger who even when past it still managed to win 3 FA Cup finals. If Klopp is considered a top manager by this modern rating system then Wenger must have been a genius in his last 5 years with us !! :lol:
The point is Liverpool have progressed every season since Klopp has been in charge and they're shit defence, which was as bad as ours, is now the best in the league. You can't say the same about Wenger despite the three FA Cup wins.

If they get at least a point on Thursday at City they're winning the league barring a Newcastle '96 level capitulation of course. Would you still be in denial if Klopp did the unthinkable and won the title?
I can see them beating citeh. The biggest fraud in this is Pep.
Inherited what were basically international competition winning sides!
Huge ego ! So left barca whores when Maureen was putting it up to him!
Bayern fans never took to him!
His sulk when turned over by Wigan? In last years fa cup was spoilt brat diva stuff!
Plus he us a c u n t!
So is klopp but he will be the next to undo pep

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SydneyGooner wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:21 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:51 pm
SydneyGooner wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:29 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:09 am
Some great responses on here to the absolutely fucking idiotic notion of respecting the fake attention seeking media whore Klopp and the mouser scum. Well played a few of you.

As for the clowns eulogising the bloke that has lost 6 out of 7 major finals as some kind of elite managerial genius and who has not yet actually won anything with the murdering victim scum pull your fucking heads in ffs you are embarrassing everyone. :oops: :lol:

Only a modern JCL social media moron Sawker fan could think Klopp has a single genuine bone in his body. Go watch one of his numerous adverts and have a wànk to cool off. :lol: :wink:
Hate on Klopp for being an attention seeking twat (completely warranted btw) all you want and I'm not calling him a managerial genius but you can't deny that he's one of the best managers around at the moment if you consider the way Liverpool have progressed every season he's been in charge.

In his first season Klopp took Liverpool to the League Cup final and the Europa League final. In his second season they qualified for the CL and in his third season he took them to the CL final. Top of the league in his fourth season.

This is Liverpool's net spend every season since he's come in.

2015/16 - net spend £31.3 m (He came in October so these were all Rodgers' signings)
2016/17 - net spend -£4.5 m
2017/18 - net spend -£10.3 m
2018/19 - net spend £148.4 m

Total net spend £164.8 m which equates to £41.2 m per season so far.
I can deny it and do. All those finals you listed? What have they in common? He lost them. Top managers win trophies. Being top at Xmas means nothing. Getting to finals means nothing unless you win them.

Ironic that on the forum that slated Wenger for financial frugality it is now fashionable to praise Klopp for the same. The same Wenger who even when past it still managed to win 3 FA Cup finals. If Klopp is considered a top manager by this modern rating system then Wenger must have been a genius in his last 5 years with us !! :lol:
The point is Liverpool have progressed every season since Klopp has been in charge and they're shit defence, which was as bad as ours, is now the best in the league. You can't say the same about Wenger despite the three FA Cup wins.

If they get at least a point on Thursday at City they're winning the league barring a Newcastle '96 level capitulation of course. Would you still be in denial if Klopp did the unthinkable and won the title?
That's tottnumb-think :lol: the kind of shit they used to spout at us when GG was winning trophies.... "we are playing proper football we are progressing you are only winning trophies...."

No one flukes a title. The best team wins it. Sometimes like citeh and the chav they have bought it but they were still the best team. My point is Klopp won't win the title. He has had immense luck on his side to get this far. He will bottle it like he bottled 6 of the last 7 finals he got to.

Even if he wins 5-0 against citeh he hasn't won the league ffs. It's early January. It's March and April and May when the bluffers are found out.

Maybe hold your victim adulation until May huh? :roll:

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Youd better be right DB !! Or check under your car every morning! :wink:

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They will fuck it up

We broke them in 89 , and they have not got over it as is evident from Thier ex players still being so bitter

Man city will win in from behind

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goonersid wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:40 pm
Youd better be right DB !! Or check under your car every morning! :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah! What he said. :-P :wink:

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goonersid wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:40 pm
Youd better be right DB !! Or check under your car every morning! :wink:
:lol:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:17 pm
SydneyGooner wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:21 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:51 pm
SydneyGooner wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:29 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:09 am
Some great responses on here to the absolutely fucking idiotic notion of respecting the fake attention seeking media whore Klopp and the mouser scum. Well played a few of you.

As for the clowns eulogising the bloke that has lost 6 out of 7 major finals as some kind of elite managerial genius and who has not yet actually won anything with the murdering victim scum pull your fucking heads in ffs you are embarrassing everyone. :oops: :lol:

Only a modern JCL social media moron Sawker fan could think Klopp has a single genuine bone in his body. Go watch one of his numerous adverts and have a wànk to cool off. :lol: :wink:
Hate on Klopp for being an attention seeking twat (completely warranted btw) all you want and I'm not calling him a managerial genius but you can't deny that he's one of the best managers around at the moment if you consider the way Liverpool have progressed every season he's been in charge.

In his first season Klopp took Liverpool to the League Cup final and the Europa League final. In his second season they qualified for the CL and in his third season he took them to the CL final. Top of the league in his fourth season.

This is Liverpool's net spend every season since he's come in.

2015/16 - net spend £31.3 m (He came in October so these were all Rodgers' signings)
2016/17 - net spend -£4.5 m
2017/18 - net spend -£10.3 m
2018/19 - net spend £148.4 m

Total net spend £164.8 m which equates to £41.2 m per season so far.
I can deny it and do. All those finals you listed? What have they in common? He lost them. Top managers win trophies. Being top at Xmas means nothing. Getting to finals means nothing unless you win them.

Ironic that on the forum that slated Wenger for financial frugality it is now fashionable to praise Klopp for the same. The same Wenger who even when past it still managed to win 3 FA Cup finals. If Klopp is considered a top manager by this modern rating system then Wenger must have been a genius in his last 5 years with us !! :lol:
The point is Liverpool have progressed every season since Klopp has been in charge and they're shit defence, which was as bad as ours, is now the best in the league. You can't say the same about Wenger despite the three FA Cup wins.

If they get at least a point on Thursday at City they're winning the league barring a Newcastle '96 level capitulation of course. Would you still be in denial if Klopp did the unthinkable and won the title?
That's tottnumb-think :lol: the kind of shit they used to spout at us when GG was winning trophies.... "we are playing proper football we are progressing you are only winning trophies...."

No one flukes a title. The best team wins it. Sometimes like citeh and the chav they have bought it but they were still the best team. My point is Klopp won't win the title. He has had immense luck on his side to get this far. He will bottle it like he bottled 6 of the last 7 finals he got to.

Even if he wins 5-0 against citeh he hasn't won the league ffs. It's early January. It's March and April and May when the bluffers are found out.

Maybe hold your victim adulation until May huh? :roll:
Fair enough. In the past ten years they do have a history of bottling it during the second half of the season and only time will tell if history repeats itself. The game at the Etihad on Thursday may very well make or break they're status as champions elect.

Season Top at Christmas Winners
2008-09 Liverpool Man Utd
2009-10 Chelsea Chelsea
2010-11 Man Utd Man Utd
2011-12 Man City Man City
2012-13 Man Utd Man Utd
2013-14 Liverpool Man City
2014-15 Chelsea Chelsea
2015-16 Leicester Leicester
2016-17 Chelsea Chelsea
2017-18 Man City Man City
2018-19 Liverpool ?

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I don't see how Klopp has had more luck than some of these other teams of the past. They're not just scoring a shit ton they've conceded only 8 goals after 20 games. IMO, his poor record in cup finals is irrelevant in the title race. Interested to hear why you think otherwise.

Dismiss it as victim adulation all you like but once he ends up crossing that final hurdle and does end up winning the league I can still see you remaining salty and trying to discredit him at every opportunity. :wink:

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I live in hope that City give them the sort of fucking hammering that they can do on their day and trigger a collapse of Arsenesque proportions on the Mousers part

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Liverpool get a result tomorrow and I can't see beyond them for the title.

still annoyed that this match has been scheduled by SKY to overshadow 3rd round FA Cup weekend, although I doubt if many people under 35 could give a shit anymore about the FA Cup.

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SydneyGooner wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:16 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:17 pm
SydneyGooner wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:21 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:51 pm
SydneyGooner wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:29 pm


Hate on Klopp for being an attention seeking twat (completely warranted btw) all you want and I'm not calling him a managerial genius but you can't deny that he's one of the best managers around at the moment if you consider the way Liverpool have progressed every season he's been in charge.

In his first season Klopp took Liverpool to the League Cup final and the Europa League final. In his second season they qualified for the CL and in his third season he took them to the CL final. Top of the league in his fourth season.

This is Liverpool's net spend every season since he's come in.

2015/16 - net spend £31.3 m (He came in October so these were all Rodgers' signings)
2016/17 - net spend -£4.5 m
2017/18 - net spend -£10.3 m
2018/19 - net spend £148.4 m

Total net spend £164.8 m which equates to £41.2 m per season so far.
I can deny it and do. All those finals you listed? What have they in common? He lost them. Top managers win trophies. Being top at Xmas means nothing. Getting to finals means nothing unless you win them.

Ironic that on the forum that slated Wenger for financial frugality it is now fashionable to praise Klopp for the same. The same Wenger who even when past it still managed to win 3 FA Cup finals. If Klopp is considered a top manager by this modern rating system then Wenger must have been a genius in his last 5 years with us !! :lol:
The point is Liverpool have progressed every season since Klopp has been in charge and they're shit defence, which was as bad as ours, is now the best in the league. You can't say the same about Wenger despite the three FA Cup wins.

If they get at least a point on Thursday at City they're winning the league barring a Newcastle '96 level capitulation of course. Would you still be in denial if Klopp did the unthinkable and won the title?
That's tottnumb-think :lol: the kind of shit they used to spout at us when GG was winning trophies.... "we are playing proper football we are progressing you are only winning trophies...."

No one flukes a title. The best team wins it. Sometimes like citeh and the chav they have bought it but they were still the best team. My point is Klopp won't win the title. He has had immense luck on his side to get this far. He will bottle it like he bottled 6 of the last 7 finals he got to.

Even if he wins 5-0 against citeh he hasn't won the league ffs. It's early January. It's March and April and May when the bluffers are found out.

Maybe hold your victim adulation until May huh? :roll:
Fair enough. In the past ten years they do have a history of bottling it during the second half of the season and only time will tell if history repeats itself. The game at the Etihad on Thursday may very well make or break they're status as champions elect.

Season Top at Christmas Winners
2008-09 Liverpool Man Utd
2009-10 Chelsea Chelsea
2010-11 Man Utd Man Utd
2011-12 Man City Man City
2012-13 Man Utd Man Utd
2013-14 Liverpool Man City
2014-15 Chelsea Chelsea
2015-16 Leicester Leicester
2016-17 Chelsea Chelsea
2017-18 Man City Man City
2018-19 Liverpool ?

Source

I don't see how Klopp has had more luck than some of these other teams of the past. They're not just scoring a shit ton they've conceded only 8 goals after 20 games. IMO, his poor record in cup finals is irrelevant in the title race. Interested to hear why you think otherwise.

Dismiss it as victim adulation all you like but once he ends up crossing that final hurdle and does end up winning the league I can still see you remaining salty and trying to discredit him at every opportunity. :wink:
A final is a high pressure event and he has a long storied history of bottling under pressure. When the crunch time comes in April / May I believe he will bottle it again.

Regarding luck.... he has been steeped. No long term injuries to any of the 4 or 5 key players he has. So far this season he has gotten so many 50/50 and even 40/60 decisions go his way regarding dives pennos etc it is unreal. That won't last.

As for "salty" - I've never pretended to have anything but utter dislike for the silly Horse Mouthed cùnt. He embodies everything that is wrong with modern football where populist dumbed down SlySports opinion and social media presence and "personality" are listed as being as important as actual ability.

Too many people have seen the fake caricature that is Klopp and equated that with him being a great manager. He's not. A great manager would have won a lot more than 1 of those last 7 finals. Great managers win trophies.

I don't think the Mousers will win the PL this season but if they do then they would have deserved it as the best team over the 38 games.

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:58 pm
I live in hope that City give them the sort of fucking hammering that they can do on their day and trigger a collapse of Arsenesque proportions on the Mousers part
As our Rodders might proffer that's 'Come my muck in my pants time' :D

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:29 pm
SydneyGooner wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:16 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:17 pm
SydneyGooner wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:21 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:51 pm


I can deny it and do. All those finals you listed? What have they in common? He lost them. Top managers win trophies. Being top at Xmas means nothing. Getting to finals means nothing unless you win them.

Ironic that on the forum that slated Wenger for financial frugality it is now fashionable to praise Klopp for the same. The same Wenger who even when past it still managed to win 3 FA Cup finals. If Klopp is considered a top manager by this modern rating system then Wenger must have been a genius in his last 5 years with us !! :lol:
The point is Liverpool have progressed every season since Klopp has been in charge and they're shit defence, which was as bad as ours, is now the best in the league. You can't say the same about Wenger despite the three FA Cup wins.

If they get at least a point on Thursday at City they're winning the league barring a Newcastle '96 level capitulation of course. Would you still be in denial if Klopp did the unthinkable and won the title?
That's tottnumb-think :lol: the kind of shit they used to spout at us when GG was winning trophies.... "we are playing proper football we are progressing you are only winning trophies...."

No one flukes a title. The best team wins it. Sometimes like citeh and the chav they have bought it but they were still the best team. My point is Klopp won't win the title. He has had immense luck on his side to get this far. He will bottle it like he bottled 6 of the last 7 finals he got to.

Even if he wins 5-0 against citeh he hasn't won the league ffs. It's early January. It's March and April and May when the bluffers are found out.

Maybe hold your victim adulation until May huh? :roll:
Fair enough. In the past ten years they do have a history of bottling it during the second half of the season and only time will tell if history repeats itself. The game at the Etihad on Thursday may very well make or break they're status as champions elect.

Season Top at Christmas Winners
2008-09 Liverpool Man Utd
2009-10 Chelsea Chelsea
2010-11 Man Utd Man Utd
2011-12 Man City Man City
2012-13 Man Utd Man Utd
2013-14 Liverpool Man City
2014-15 Chelsea Chelsea
2015-16 Leicester Leicester
2016-17 Chelsea Chelsea
2017-18 Man City Man City
2018-19 Liverpool ?

Source

I don't see how Klopp has had more luck than some of these other teams of the past. They're not just scoring a shit ton they've conceded only 8 goals after 20 games. IMO, his poor record in cup finals is irrelevant in the title race. Interested to hear why you think otherwise.

Dismiss it as victim adulation all you like but once he ends up crossing that final hurdle and does end up winning the league I can still see you remaining salty and trying to discredit him at every opportunity. :wink:
A final is a high pressure event and he has a long storied history of bottling under pressure. When the crunch time comes in April / May I believe he will bottle it again.

Regarding luck.... he has been steeped. No long term injuries to any of the 4 or 5 key players he has. So far this season he has gotten so many 50/50 and even 40/60 decisions go his way regarding dives pennos etc it is unreal. That won't last.

As for "salty" - I've never pretended to have anything but utter dislike for the silly Horse Mouthed cùnt. He embodies everything that is wrong with modern football where populist dumbed down SlySports opinion and social media presence and "personality" are listed as being as important as actual ability.

Too many people have seen the fake caricature that is Klopp and equated that with him being a great manager. He's not. A great manager would have won a lot more than 1 of those last 7 finals. Great managers win trophies.

I don't think the Mousers will win the PL this season but if they do then they would have deserved it as the best team over the 38 games.
Traitor! Burn the witch Boo hiss Booo!

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