Would you sell Chamakh?

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:32 pm

Jesus christ guys he hasant even had a chance yet.

JakeN13 · Post by **JakeN13** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:34 pm

Apart from Jack, Fabregas and RvP there is not one player I wouldn't sell for 10m I don't think (including Nasri)...but realistically there's no chance Chamakh would leave this season.

This Is The Daybreak · Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:36 pm

He was a very useful player at the start of last season but was truly woeful after christmas. I would give him untill christmas and if he is still replecating his end of season form I would sell him in January.

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:44 pm

This Is The Daybreak wrote:He was a very useful player at the start of last season but was truly woeful after christmas. I would give him untill christmas and if he is still replecating his end of season form I would sell him in January.

With you on that 1 the only problem you have there whose going to buy him in jan when hes off to the african nations.Thought he started last season well but he went completely off the boil from november onwards.Watching him yesterday when he came on in 2nd half it was embarrasing

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:51 pm

Irish Gooner wrote:For me its about selling and replacing.If we sell Bendtner, Chamakh and to a lesser extent JET reserve striker then surely we must bring in 2 strikers with quality to replace them.

Which Wenger wouldnt do. If it came to it between Vela and Chamakh I would pick Chamakh everytime.

So for me, get rid of Vela, Bendtner seems on his way, leave Chamakh one more year.

Absolutely agree, and not only that but isn't there an order in which we should clear the dead wood too. I would hardly put Chamakh in the problem child category.

Ahead of him we have 3 reserve goalkeepers all of which have had chances, and all of which have been shite. We have 3 right backs if we believe that's where Jenkinson has been bought as cover (although the GIC's wonderous "Carl can play there too" comment about CBs makes me wonder), and we seem hell bent on assembling a collection of flaky wide midfielders.

Chamakh was doing well and his confidence was high. RvP gets fit, the GIC refuses to abandon his dire 4-5-1 (for that is what it is) and therefore there is no role for Chamakh other than rotating with Bendtner in the "lets pretend we're left wingers for the last 20 minutes" role.

When we were struggling to break teams down ("all credit to Blackburn/Sunderland/Villa they defended very well"), it might have been fucking handy to have one of our only decent headers of the ball in the penalty area instead of just RvP with his back to goal.

But that would mean looking to do things differently and that just wouldn't do. We waited a while for a guy with an aerial presence up front - lets not abandon him just yet (in the way the GIC has)

Captain Fabregas · Post by **Captain Fabregas** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:17 pm

Play two strikers and get some fucking wingers who can cross and Chamakh will be headering them *word censored* in.

Magic Hat · Post by **Magic Hat** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:21 pm

My only concern with selling him is that Bendtner (who I prefer as striker to Chamahk) seems set to go so if RVP got injured, not that he ever gets injured, we would have what? Vela and Walcott?

If we got a decent bid and could keep Bendtner, wouldn't say no to selling Chamahk.

Supagoon · Post by **Supagoon** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:35 pm

100% SELL.

He is a terrible 'striker'. Maybe a good footballer.

I cannot believe how little stick he got when he runs towards goal after receiving a pass then turns backwards to pass again.

Look at our style of play. You need a true striker in the team, whilst everyone else is looking for a pass, this guy receives one and looks a for shot.

RVP is the only decent striker we have. Chamakh, Bendtner are awful awful strikers.

Other teams are stacked with strikers. Rooney + Hernandez. Tevez + Balotelli/Dezeko/Aguero/Adebayor.

Eto'o + Milito, Ronaldo + Higuain.

And we've chamakh and nik. oh looooooooooooool. Arsenal's style demands we have quality strikers but we 1, who could fall to peices at any time.

shu · Post by **shu** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:36 pm

we can't sell him as wenger would not replace him , as simple as that , so we might aswell keep him in the squad for when RVP gets injured against Bolton in September !

Post by **Barriecuda** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:23 pm

Chamakh helped Bordeaux (of all teams) win the French Ligue 1 and qualify for Champions League. That season he led all of EUROPE in header goals. Maybe we shouldn't be looking at him but instead his supply lines, as other posters have mentioned.

He has a lot of talent to offer Arsenal. Just needs more consistent match time in his favored position IMO.

worthing_gooner · Post by **worthing_gooner** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:28 pm

Barriecuda wrote:Chamakh helped Bordeaux (of all teams) win the French Ligue 1 and qualify for Champions League. That season he led all of EUROPE in header goals. Maybe we shouldn't be looking at him but instead his supply lines, as other posters have mentioned.

He has a lot of talent to offer Arsenal. Just needs more consistent match time in his favored position IMO.

Spot on... when he first came to Arsenal he was banging them in regularly, it's only when RVP came back and he got dropped that his confidence was shot to pieces.

You don't become a shit player overnight and Chamakh showed he was quality in the first half of last season before he got dropped.

How would you feel if you were tearing it up in the Prem and then got dropped, and then when you were brought on as a sub, you weren't played in your favoured position.

If Wenger tried a 4-4-2 with Chamakh and RVP up top I think we'd be onto a winner there.

Post by **Barriecuda** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:35 pm

worthing_gooner wrote:
Barriecuda wrote:Chamakh helped Bordeaux (of all teams) win the French Ligue 1 and qualify for Champions League. That season he led all of EUROPE in header goals. Maybe we shouldn't be looking at him but instead his supply lines, as other posters have mentioned.

He has a lot of talent to offer Arsenal. Just needs more consistent match time in his favored position IMO.
Spot on... when he first came to Arsenal he was banging them in regularly, it's only when RVP came back and he got dropped that his confidence was shot to pieces.

You don't become a shit player overnight and Chamakh showed he was quality in the first half of last season before he got dropped.

How would you feel if you were tearing it up in the Prem and then got dropped, and then when you were brought on as a sub, you weren't played in your favoured position.

If Wenger tried a 4-4-2 with Chamakh and RVP up top I think we'd be onto a winner there.

I'm all for RVP going back to an SS role. We wouldn't lose his dynamism but we'd gain another attacking threat - a proper CF - kind of like we had when it was Ade/RVP at the front of the 4-4-2. Hell, maybe we'd score on a corner again!

ThomasMitchell · Post by **ThomasMitchell** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:42 pm

Sell, sell, sell.

franksav63 · Post by **franksav63** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:57 pm

I'm surprised that Wenger hasn't sold him already, a free transfer, we'd probably get 8-10 million for him, that kind of deal is Wenger porn.

marcengels · Post by **marcengels** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:10 pm

Barriecuda wrote: I'm all for RVP going back to an SS role. We wouldn't lose his dynamism but we'd gain another attacking threat - a proper CF - kind of like we had when it was Ade/RVP at the front of the 4-4-2. Hell, maybe we'd score on a corner again!