THE WENGER THREAD

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He deserves a bit of praise after all the stick he got.

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1989 wrote:He deserves a bit of praise after all the stick he got.


Explain please :?

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1989 wrote:He deserves a bit of praise after all the stick he got.
It a shame it took him so long to see the obvious though - sign a proper player and lift the rest of the squad. Perhaps he was financially unable before, perhaps not.

I'm still against but I cannot fault our current form and it's a refreshing change to be seeing the sort of stuff we served up tonight.

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augie wrote:
1989 wrote:He deserves a bit of praise after all the stick he got.


Explain please :?
He has signed one of the best players in the world.

We've won 10 games in a row.

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I am really enjoying watching us at the moment but if he really "saw the obvious" he'd have acted on our blatant weakness up front and not left us with one average striker and Bendtner and the Postman as back-up. As nice as this is, it's not hard to see what our inevitable undoing will be and besides, certainly domestically the games we've won weren't the ones we had trouble with last season.

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augie wrote: I hate the old c*** with a vengeance and I hate that I feel this way and for that reason I hope that we can have a good season where we challenge for trophies (even if we don't win them) and that the old c*** then fcuks off next summer - the hatred I have for him is consuming me and I don't want that feeling to last with me for years to come :( That being said, if he fcuks off for any reason then I will automatically feel like a cloud has been lifted and will celebrate like there will be no tomorrow :barscarf:
Jeez mate theres counselling available for those sort of feelings.

I suppose we can bring back Rioch as a cure for you :D

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1989 wrote:
augie wrote:
1989 wrote:He deserves a bit of praise after all the stick he got.


Explain please :?
He has signed one of the best players in the world.

We've won 10 games in a row.

We are going well and we all agree on that but try to look at things a little deeper instead of just face value - we have had an amazingly easy/soft run of fixtures to start the league and many will argue that we should have 3 more points than we actually do have.
To laud him for signing one of the best players in the world baffles me - personally I believe the signing of ozil was pushed on him by the board but even if I am wrong, do you think that it takes genius to sign ozil ? My 10 year old spent all summer saying that we should buy him so signing a top quality player that is being pushed out of his club isn't something that requires credit being given to manager surely ?

Everything seems to be short term with you of late - suggesting that wenker deserves credit after 11 games is akin to touting gibbs as international quality after a handful of good games :oops: If giroud gets injured tomorrow and the good run hits the khazi on the back of it, then would you still believe that wenker deserves praise ? If not then why not ? It wouldn't be wenker's fault if he got injured but yet you and everyone else would correctly look at his negligence at not bringing in a proper striker in the summer and he would rightly be heavily criticised for it and that's the way it is meant to work - if we do well this season then he will deserve his credit at the end of it but not after a very easy run of fixtures

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augie wrote:
1989 wrote:
augie wrote:
1989 wrote:He deserves a bit of praise after all the stick he got.


Explain please :?
He has signed one of the best players in the world.

We've won 10 games in a row.

We are going well and we all agree on that but try to look at things a little deeper instead of just face value - we have had an amazingly easy/soft run of fixtures to start the league and many will argue that we should have 3 more points than we actually do have.
To laud him for signing one of the best players in the world baffles me - personally I believe the signing of ozil was pushed on him by the board but even if I am wrong, do you think that it takes genius to sign ozil ? My 10 year old spent all summer saying that we should buy him so signing a top quality player that is being pushed out of his club isn't something that requires credit being given to manager surely ?

Everything seems to be short term with you of late - suggesting that wenker deserves credit after 11 games is akin to touting gibbs as international quality after a handful of good games :oops: If giroud gets injured tomorrow and the good run hits the khazi on the back of it, then would you still believe that wenker deserves praise ? If not then why not ? It wouldn't be wenker's fault if he got injured but yet you and everyone else would correctly look at his negligence at not bringing in a proper striker in the summer and he would rightly be heavily criticised for it and that's the way it is meant to work - if we do well this season then he will deserve his credit at the end of it but not after a very easy run of fixtures
You can only beat what's put infront of you and that's what he and the team have done.

Signing Özil is not as easy as you make it out to be. He's a world class player, you have to attract them, convince them, make them believe in your ambition and that's what he's done successfully. If it was so easy to sign such a player, Moyes will have ended up with Fabregas instead of Fellaini.

All I'm saying is that since Wenger has been getting dog's abuse for a while now, you shouldn't be begrudging him a bit of praise when we're doing well.

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Still for him.

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All is calm and jolly aboard the good ship Wenger at the moment but we are just one injury to Giroud away from sailing straight into a massive shit storm.

Yes, I am enjoying the foie gras and the classical music being played on the the top deck but I also make sure that I am never more than twenty paces away from the nearest lifeboat.

There is a sense of foreboding amongst the passengers as if we can almost sense troubled waters approaching. End of log.

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1989 wrote:He deserves a bit of praise after all the stick he got.
Agree 100%
I didn't think Ramsey had this form in him, after the Villa game i didn't think we had these victories in us and - let's be fair, we've beaten Spurs and Napoli (both not mugs). I AM however on the record saying i expected Giroud to go very well.
Yup, I concede, i wrote the old fella off in the break - for the first time, BUT if his job is to give joy to us Gooners through winning performances then he can't have done much more so far.

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Kept the faith in Ramsey.
Signed Ozil.
Gave Giroud a fair chance.
Our form.

All in all I am happy with his work in the last month.

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Our new blog post is very pro Wenger. http://www.soonergooners.com/sg-blog.html. No spam intended! Just relevant!

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augie wrote:
1989 wrote:
augie wrote:
1989 wrote:He deserves a bit of praise after all the stick he got.


Explain please :?
He has signed one of the best players in the world.

We've won 10 games in a row.

We are going well and we all agree on that but try to look at things a little deeper instead of just face value - we have had an amazingly easy/soft run of fixtures to start the league and many will argue that we should have 3 more points than we actually do have.
To laud him for signing one of the best players in the world baffles me - personally I believe the signing of ozil was pushed on him by the board but even if I am wrong, do you think that it takes genius to sign ozil ? My 10 year old spent all summer saying that we should buy him so signing a top quality player that is being pushed out of his club isn't something that requires credit being given to manager surely ?

Everything seems to be short term with you of late - suggesting that wenker deserves credit after 11 games is akin to touting gibbs as international quality after a handful of good games :oops: If giroud gets injured tomorrow and the good run hits the khazi on the back of it, then would you still believe that wenker deserves praise ? If not then why not ? It wouldn't be wenker's fault if he got injured but yet you and everyone else would correctly look at his negligence at not bringing in a proper striker in the summer and he would rightly be heavily criticised for it and that's the way it is meant to work - if we do well this season then he will deserve his credit at the end of it but not after a very easy run of fixtures
I would say Gibbs has been playing well for at least 8-9 months now.

Let's also not forget that our run stretches back to halfway through last season. I think it is something like 22 wins out of the last 23. As a fan surely you have to be happy with that? Nobody's expecting you to start donning a I-luv-AW t-shirt but rather then just waiting for things to turn shit why not just enjoy the fact they're going well?

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1989, I agree that attracting world class players isnt easy but wasnt it said at the time that the reason his transfer was delayed for so long was that he was waiting to see if manure came in for him ? No real shock in that if it is true because like it or not we have a selling club rep of late (and wenker has played a very big part in that) and the mancs are seen as a world power ( :censored: ) but maybe attracting ozil wasnt as hard as you claim cos there was a lack of real offers from elsewhere ? :rubchin: Now before anyone starts having a go at me cos they think that I am slating ozil, can I just say I dont really care if we were ozil's preferred choice or not as long as the guy continues playing as he is at the mo 8)

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