Alright Judith ChalmersGranadaJoe wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:Fucking hell, that's a shit thing to post. You've met every Egyptian to back that statement?GranadaJoe wrote:Egypt is dirty and the people are horrible (they were when I went in 1976) and they'll nick anything that's not nailed down. The pyramids are on the edge of a horrible town. Look one way and you get sweeping desert vistas. Look the other way and you get Walsall with sun and flies.
Do I need to have met every single Egyptian to form an opinion of them?
Our coach driver stopped by the side of the road, squatted, had a shit and climbed back aboard. We soon learned we had to keep our windows shut as, wherever we went people were putting their hands in and trying to nick anything they could reach. In the Cairo museum we queued in horrendous temperatures for two hours to see the Tutenkhamen exhibition and when we got to the door the bloke said it was closing for lunch. When we complained he told us to fuck off (imschi!!).If we went anywhere near a shop or market stall or street vendor they would grab our arm and it was a ruck to get away. We took pictures of the pyramids and had endless fucking men trying to extort money off of us because they claimed that they, their camels or their donkeys were in the photos. My mate bought a bottle of Coke and when he took the top off there was a dead fly in it. He complained and said he wanted another one and they told him to fuck off. The blonde girl that was in our party was harassed everywhere she went.
I felt that the people in general look down on non-Arabs and are only interested in parting us from our money.
You may have had a lovely time; we didn't.
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Well, yeah, you do actually. You called an entire race "horrible" and thieves ffs. Whilst it's not racist as such, it is xenophobic and sweeping racial stereotyping, based on your limited encounters of (most likely) poverty stricken, desperate people, and maybe a couple of arseholes.GranadaJoe wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:Fucking hell, that's a shit thing to post. You've met every Egyptian to back that statement?GranadaJoe wrote:Egypt is dirty and the people are horrible (they were when I went in 1976) and they'll nick anything that's not nailed down. The pyramids are on the edge of a horrible town. Look one way and you get sweeping desert vistas. Look the other way and you get Walsall with sun and flies.
Do I need to have met every single Egyptian to form an opinion of them?
Our coach driver stopped by the side of the road, squatted, had a shit and climbed back aboard. We soon learned we had to keep our windows shut as, wherever we went people were putting their hands in and trying to nick anything they could reach. In the Cairo museum we queued in horrendous temperatures for two hours to see the Tutenkhamen exhibition and when we got to the door the bloke said it was closing for lunch. When we complained he told us to fuck off (imschi!!).If we went anywhere near a shop or market stall or street vendor they would grab our arm and it was a ruck to get away. We took pictures of the pyramids and had endless fucking men trying to extort money off of us because they claimed that they, their camels or their donkeys were in the photos. My mate bought a bottle of Coke and when he took the top off there was a dead fly in it. He complained and said he wanted another one and they told him to fuck off. The blonde girl that was in our party was harassed everywhere she went.
I felt that the people in general look down on non-Arabs and are only interested in parting us from our money.
You may have had a lovely time; we didn't.
By your standard, my old man who lived and worked in London in the late 1960's would have been within his rights to call all English people "lazy, dirty, racist, thieving scum with bad teeth" because, guess what, he met a lot of them that were like that. But no, being an educated and tolerant man, he didn't think that way because he had not met all of you. I lived and worked in London in 1990-91 and I met a lot of English people that were ignorant, racist, lazy, dole-sponging, scumbags - but I never for a moment thought "well that's the English for you".
One thing I have learned in my vast travels on this planet is that every country is more or less the same; they have good people, they have bad people. They have nice people and they have arseholes.
Maybe best to just let this one lie, mate - because tbh it's not painting you in a very good light.
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I'm on a cruise ship from Perth to Sydney and finish with three nights in Brisbane where I have relatives.DB10GOONER wrote:You going near Brisbane? Lived there for 15 years as a kid. If so also visit Caloundra on the Sunshine Coast and Surfers Paradise. Surfers is very touristy and always was but it's a lot of fun. Do not climb Uluru, or Ayers Rock, if you visit. The local Aborigine people find it disrespectful.NickF wrote:Off to Australia for a couple of weeks in 10 days time.
Definately some winter sun for me
Enjoy you lucky bastard.
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Cool.NickF wrote:I'm on a cruise ship from Perth to Sydney and finish with three nights in Brisbane where I have relatives.DB10GOONER wrote:You going near Brisbane? Lived there for 15 years as a kid. If so also visit Caloundra on the Sunshine Coast and Surfers Paradise. Surfers is very touristy and always was but it's a lot of fun. Do not climb Uluru, or Ayers Rock, if you visit. The local Aborigine people find it disrespectful.NickF wrote:Off to Australia for a couple of weeks in 10 days time.
Definately some winter sun for me
Enjoy you lucky bastard.
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Perth and he surrounding areas (like Fremantle) are lovely too. Have a good one mate
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Eh??? You moved from a house into a Tent???? FFS Flash you shoulda said we'd have had a whip round for you!flash gunner wrote:Moved house 6 weeks or so ago so not sure what sort of holiday this year might be camping in Cornwall
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Yeah mate still got enough room for the sofa though just havent got a TV anymoreOneBardGooner wrote:Eh??? You moved from a house into a Tent???? FFS Flash you shoulda said we'd have had a whip round for you!flash gunner wrote:Moved house 6 weeks or so ago so not sure what sort of holiday this year might be camping in Cornwall
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Trade the wife for a television. You know it makes sense.flash gunner wrote:Yeah mate still got enough room for the sofa though just havent got a TV anymoreOneBardGooner wrote:Eh??? You moved from a house into a Tent???? FFS Flash you shoulda said we'd have had a whip round for you!flash gunner wrote:Moved house 6 weeks or so ago so not sure what sort of holiday this year might be camping in Cornwall
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Not sure id get a good deal mateDB10GOONER wrote:Trade the wife for a television. You know it makes sense.flash gunner wrote:Yeah mate still got enough room for the sofa though just havent got a TV anymoreOneBardGooner wrote:Eh??? You moved from a house into a Tent???? FFS Flash you shoulda said we'd have had a whip round for you!flash gunner wrote:Moved house 6 weeks or so ago so not sure what sort of holiday this year might be camping in Cornwall
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flash gunner wrote:Not sure id get a good deal mateDB10GOONER wrote:Trade the wife for a television. You know it makes sense.flash gunner wrote:Yeah mate still got enough room for the sofa though just havent got a TV anymoreOneBardGooner wrote:Eh??? You moved from a house into a Tent???? FFS Flash you shoulda said we'd have had a whip round for you!flash gunner wrote:Moved house 6 weeks or so ago so not sure what sort of holiday this year might be camping in Cornwall
Hmmm.... okay. What about a toaster? Would you get a half decent toaster?
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even thats pushing it mate is it a double slicer?DB10GOONER wrote:flash gunner wrote:Not sure id get a good deal mateDB10GOONER wrote:Trade the wife for a television. You know it makes sense.flash gunner wrote:Yeah mate still got enough room for the sofa though just havent got a TV anymoreOneBardGooner wrote:
Eh??? You moved from a house into a Tent???? FFS Flash you shoulda said we'd have had a whip round for you!
Hmmm.... okay. What about a toaster? Would you get a half decent toaster?
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flash gunner wrote:even thats pushing it mate is it a double slicer?DB10GOONER wrote:flash gunner wrote:Not sure id get a good deal mateDB10GOONER wrote:Trade the wife for a television. You know it makes sense.flash gunner wrote:
Yeah mate still got enough room for the sofa though just havent got a TV anymore
Hmmm.... okay. What about a toaster? Would you get a half decent toaster?
No.
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DB10GOONER wrote:Well, yeah, you do actually. You called an entire race "horrible" and thieves ffs. Whilst it's not racist as such, it is xenophobic and sweeping racial stereotyping, based on your limited encounters of (most likely) poverty stricken, desperate people, and maybe a couple of arseholes.GranadaJoe wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:Fucking hell, that's a shit thing to post. You've met every Egyptian to back that statement?GranadaJoe wrote:Egypt is dirty and the people are horrible (they were when I went in 1976) and they'll nick anything that's not nailed down. The pyramids are on the edge of a horrible town. Look one way and you get sweeping desert vistas. Look the other way and you get Walsall with sun and flies.
Do I need to have met every single Egyptian to form an opinion of them?
Our coach driver stopped by the side of the road, squatted, had a shit and climbed back aboard. We soon learned we had to keep our windows shut as, wherever we went people were putting their hands in and trying to nick anything they could reach. In the Cairo museum we queued in horrendous temperatures for two hours to see the Tutenkhamen exhibition and when we got to the door the bloke said it was closing for lunch. When we complained he told us to fuck off (imschi!!).If we went anywhere near a shop or market stall or street vendor they would grab our arm and it was a ruck to get away. We took pictures of the pyramids and had endless fucking men trying to extort money off of us because they claimed that they, their camels or their donkeys were in the photos. My mate bought a bottle of Coke and when he took the top off there was a dead fly in it. He complained and said he wanted another one and they told him to fuck off. The blonde girl that was in our party was harassed everywhere she went.
I felt that the people in general look down on non-Arabs and are only interested in parting us from our money.
You may have had a lovely time; we didn't.
By your standard, my old man who lived and worked in London in the late 1960's would have been within his rights to call all English people "lazy, dirty, racist, thieving scum with bad teeth" because, guess what, he met a lot of them that were like that. But no, being an educated and tolerant man, he didn't think that way because he had not met all of you. I lived and worked in London in 1990-91 and I met a lot of English people that were ignorant, racist, lazy, dole-sponging, scumbags - but I never for a moment thought "well that's the English for you".
One thing I have learned in my vast travels on this planet is that every country is more or less the same; they have good people, they have bad people. They have nice people and they have arseholes.
Maybe best to just let this one lie, mate - because tbh it's not painting you in a very good light.
I don't think you need to be so sensitive, nor should you twist what I said. I didn't say they were all thieves, so you shouldn't suggest it. I simply explained what happened to me while we were driving around Cairo in a coach.
The thread is about holidays, not a sociological diatribe and I explained what my holiday in Egypt was like. I've been to quite a few countries and I agree that people can be good, bad and in between, but I've not been to a country where so many of the people I encountered were so horrible, and while I'm sure there are some lovely people there, we didn't meet any of them.
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I'm not being sensitive. I do find what you wrote to be offensive though tbh. And I am not twisting your words at all. You wrote;GranadaJoe wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:Well, yeah, you do actually. You called an entire race "horrible" and thieves ffs. Whilst it's not racist as such, it is xenophobic and sweeping racial stereotyping, based on your limited encounters of (most likely) poverty stricken, desperate people, and maybe a couple of arseholes.GranadaJoe wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:Fucking hell, that's a shit thing to post. You've met every Egyptian to back that statement?GranadaJoe wrote:Egypt is dirty and the people are horrible (they were when I went in 1976) and they'll nick anything that's not nailed down. The pyramids are on the edge of a horrible town. Look one way and you get sweeping desert vistas. Look the other way and you get Walsall with sun and flies.
Do I need to have met every single Egyptian to form an opinion of them?
Our coach driver stopped by the side of the road, squatted, had a shit and climbed back aboard. We soon learned we had to keep our windows shut as, wherever we went people were putting their hands in and trying to nick anything they could reach. In the Cairo museum we queued in horrendous temperatures for two hours to see the Tutenkhamen exhibition and when we got to the door the bloke said it was closing for lunch. When we complained he told us to fuck off (imschi!!).If we went anywhere near a shop or market stall or street vendor they would grab our arm and it was a ruck to get away. We took pictures of the pyramids and had endless fucking men trying to extort money off of us because they claimed that they, their camels or their donkeys were in the photos. My mate bought a bottle of Coke and when he took the top off there was a dead fly in it. He complained and said he wanted another one and they told him to fuck off. The blonde girl that was in our party was harassed everywhere she went.
I felt that the people in general look down on non-Arabs and are only interested in parting us from our money.
You may have had a lovely time; we didn't.
By your standard, my old man who lived and worked in London in the late 1960's would have been within his rights to call all English people "lazy, dirty, racist, thieving scum with bad teeth" because, guess what, he met a lot of them that were like that. But no, being an educated and tolerant man, he didn't think that way because he had not met all of you. I lived and worked in London in 1990-91 and I met a lot of English people that were ignorant, racist, lazy, dole-sponging, scumbags - but I never for a moment thought "well that's the English for you".
One thing I have learned in my vast travels on this planet is that every country is more or less the same; they have good people, they have bad people. They have nice people and they have arseholes.
Maybe best to just let this one lie, mate - because tbh it's not painting you in a very good light.
I don't think you need to be so sensitive, nor should you twist what I said. I didn't say they were all thieves, so you shouldn't suggest it. I simply explained what happened to me while we were driving around Cairo in a coach.
The thread is about holidays, not a sociological diatribe and I explained what my holiday in Egypt was like. I've been to quite a few countries and I agree that people can be good, bad and in between, but I've not been to a country where so many of the people I encountered were so horrible, and while I'm sure there are some lovely people there, we didn't meet any of them.
"Egypt is dirty and the people are horrible (they were when I went in 1976) and they'll nick anything that's not nailed down".
What other way is there to read that?
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You sure it wasn't Liverpool you went to on HolidayDB10GOONER wrote:I'm not being sensitive. I do find what you wrote to be offensive though tbh. And I am not twisting your words at all. You wrote;GranadaJoe wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:Well, yeah, you do actually. You called an entire race "horrible" and thieves ffs. Whilst it's not racist as such, it is xenophobic and sweeping racial stereotyping, based on your limited encounters of (most likely) poverty stricken, desperate people, and maybe a couple of arseholes.GranadaJoe wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:
Fucking hell, that's a shit thing to post. You've met every Egyptian to back that statement?
Do I need to have met every single Egyptian to form an opinion of them?
Our coach driver stopped by the side of the road, squatted, had a shit and climbed back aboard. We soon learned we had to keep our windows shut as, wherever we went people were putting their hands in and trying to nick anything they could reach. In the Cairo museum we queued in horrendous temperatures for two hours to see the Tutenkhamen exhibition and when we got to the door the bloke said it was closing for lunch. When we complained he told us to fuck off (imschi!!).If we went anywhere near a shop or market stall or street vendor they would grab our arm and it was a ruck to get away. We took pictures of the pyramids and had endless fucking men trying to extort money off of us because they claimed that they, their camels or their donkeys were in the photos. My mate bought a bottle of Coke and when he took the top off there was a dead fly in it. He complained and said he wanted another one and they told him to fuck off. The blonde girl that was in our party was harassed everywhere she went.
I felt that the people in general look down on non-Arabs and are only interested in parting us from our money.
You may have had a lovely time; we didn't.
By your standard, my old man who lived and worked in London in the late 1960's would have been within his rights to call all English people "lazy, dirty, racist, thieving scum with bad teeth" because, guess what, he met a lot of them that were like that. But no, being an educated and tolerant man, he didn't think that way because he had not met all of you. I lived and worked in London in 1990-91 and I met a lot of English people that were ignorant, racist, lazy, dole-sponging, scumbags - but I never for a moment thought "well that's the English for you".
One thing I have learned in my vast travels on this planet is that every country is more or less the same; they have good people, they have bad people. They have nice people and they have arseholes.
Maybe best to just let this one lie, mate - because tbh it's not painting you in a very good light.
I don't think you need to be so sensitive, nor should you twist what I said. I didn't say they were all thieves, so you shouldn't suggest it. I simply explained what happened to me while we were driving around Cairo in a coach.
The thread is about holidays, not a sociological diatribe and I explained what my holiday in Egypt was like. I've been to quite a few countries and I agree that people can be good, bad and in between, but I've not been to a country where so many of the people I encountered were so horrible, and while I'm sure there are some lovely people there, we didn't meet any of them.
"Egypt is dirty and the people are horrible (they were when I went in 1976) and they'll nick anything that's not nailed down".
What other way is there to read that?