Protest Saturday

[Dan_85]

These posters/banners aren't explicit enough for my liking. Too wishy-washy, it doesn't feel particularly clear exactly who or what they're aimed at, is it Wenger or Kroenke or someone else? Time to call a spade a spade and stop pussyfooting around the issue.

If they do get shown on TV they'll just be dismissed out of hand by commentators I think.... "Oh, Arsenal fans want a change... but they don't seem to know who or what kind of change"

[GoonerMuzz]

That's one of the points i was trying to make earlier Dan, everything feels a little staged to me, almost as if it is a last minute thing that no-ones really thought through.

They are either trying to dilute the protest so nobody gets offended or they are out right sabotaging it, either way why when sections of the fans have been unhappy for a few years now are they only jumping on the bandwagon at this late stage.

I don't know a single person who has aired there views to any of the supporters groups who has had a response that is positive or that's really been given the time of day.

None of those supporters groups have any presence on any of the fan forums except their own as far as i am aware, i know Cook used to post on here and was affiliated with RA but i'm not sure any concerns we voiced on here was passed back in a serious way. I would expect any self respecting Supporters group to monitor various supporter forums beyond their own and ask for feedback to give them a broader overview of fan feelings and also as a potential boost to their membership yet i have never heard of any such thing from RA, BSM or even the AST.

In point of fact does Mods, do you know if Online Gooner have any association with any of the Supporter Groups or has it ever been approached to provide feedback?

[silus]

I have to say I'm quite surprised at the negativity towards the protest on here.
Yes they could have been aimed more at wenger and yes most of us would have worded them differently..but at least the supporters groups are finally coming together to do something.

The media have caught on to it and it will get coverage..they seem to be going after wenger like never before and hopefully they won't be fobbed off if they ask him about it.

It's easy to moan and say I'm not joining in as it won't work, but if that's the attitude then it will obviously fall flat and become a self fulfilling prophecy. If you don't like the wording...make some of your own and join in.
The easiest thing in the world is to do nothing and sneer at those that are trying to achieve something. It might not work, it might achieve the grand total of fuck all....but we should ALL get behind it.
Most other places..social media pieces/forums etc, that I've read have been positive about the protest, even though some also think it should have been aimed more at wenger...at least they're supportive....it's only on here I've seen so much negativity.

If you've been on here moaning about what pussies our fans are for putting up with this shit or that no other supporters would put up with it.....then maybe you should come and show us how it's done rather than giving up without a fight...because that's a LOT worse.
If not..then get ready for 3 more years of Wenger. ..mind you, at least it gives you something else to moan about.

[Eboue-Why?]

how about a banner that says "justice for the 60,260"

[Bradywasking]

Match live on Sky, if they have done their homework they will interview fans outside the stadium..My hope would be that protesters gather at a designated point outside. The media will be or should be,aware.
Spend nothing in the stadium, small point that may go unnoticed but still worth making..

[Bob Bayliss]

I know how hard it can be to get any sort of effective protest off the ground at today's Arsenal. Most of those who care passionately about the club have been slowly but surely disenfranchised over the last 10 years, We've become keyboard warriors, to be replaced in the soul-less bowl by the chattering classes who are not by any means pro-Wenger but are simply content with shelling out money to sit in a nice padded seat and watch famous players weave pretty patterns across the pitch.

But this is a once in a generation opportunity. It's a chance for the old school to come back and say "this was once our club". Let's have a massive, unexpected spontaneous turn-out similar to the one we saw march up to the ground on the day after Denton's death broke back in 2007. One big shove, and let's see where we are......

[xisstential]

Match live on Sky, if they have done their homework they will interview fans outside the stadium..My hope would be that protesters gather at a designated point outside. The media will be or should be,aware.
Spend nothing in the stadium, small point that may go unnoticed but still worth making..

If this has hit the mainstream media, Wengie Boy might even be asked about it at his pre match. I would pay money to watch that.... can you imagine..... eyes darken, back stiffens..... I am not here to talk about that, it eees important that vee focus on beating Norwich as Man. U .......

Might hear something about qualitee as well......

[augie]

Placards are not direct enough for me BUT, if those who are going feel the same way, then they SHOULD change the wording and print off their own placards because this is the best chance we will ever have of a co-ordinated fans protest, and a show of numbers will at least bring some credibility to story that we are not happy. If this show of strength works out, then maybe it be can taken up a notch for the villa game and maybe the protests could be more direct towards wenger - can you imagine the feeling within the ground if we have been beaten the previous week by citeeh and displaced from the top 4 by their scum neighbours ? For most of us losing our place in the top 4 would be a blessing, but for many of the wenger disciples it would be a catastrophe and would only serve the increase the pressure on le cock.

Anyway, as an absent Gooner, can I appeal to those of you that will be in attendance on saturday, to either bring the placards distributed to ye or bring one of your own

[Wilson]

A united and controlled protest I think will do more than a protest loaded with vitriol. The media will write us off as spoilt and disrespectful if Wenger is abused aggressively. The media would write it of as irrational frustration born in the heat of the moment.

However, if the message is universal and simultaneous in a controlled in a respectful manner, it will have to be responded to with equal thought.

It needs to be known the Wenger out movement is a rationale movement. Im sick of the likes of John Cross and other media acting all high and mighty and telling us to be careful of what we wish for. It needs to be known Arsenal fans HAVE thought about it, and yes, we still want Wenger out.

If the message is respectful, clear and concise, they cant write us off as irrational hot blooded fans not thinking clearly.

[SteveO 35]

Heaven forbid....lets not have 3 of our fans with their mobile phones booing and telling one of our players to get out while he can.

[Redarmy]

Placards are not direct enough for me BUT, if those who are going feel the same way, then they SHOULD change the wording and print off their own placards because this is the best chance we will ever have of a co-ordinated fans protest, and a show of numbers will at least bring some credibility to story that we are not happy. If this show of strength works out, then maybe it be can taken up a notch for the villa game and maybe the protests could be more direct towards wenger - can you imagine the feeling within the ground if we have been beaten the previous week by citeeh and displaced from the top 4 by their scum neighbours ? For most of us losing our place in the top 4 would be a blessing, but for many of the wenger disciples it would be a catastrophe and would only serve the increase the pressure on le cock.

Anyway, as an absent Gooner, can I appeal to those of you that will be in attendance on saturday, to either bring the placards distributed to ye or bring one of your own

AGREED, don't like this clouding of the waters by BS and RA but no other choice on this one, have to get behind it, and target WENGER OUT

[foxinthebox2001]

Placards are not direct enough for me BUT, if those who are going feel the same way, then they SHOULD change the wording and print off their own placards because this is the best chance we will ever have of a co-ordinated fans protest, and a show of numbers will at least bring some credibility to story that we are not happy. If this show of strength works out, then maybe it be can taken up a notch for the villa game and maybe the protests could be more direct towards wenger - can you imagine the feeling within the ground if we have been beaten the previous week by citeeh and displaced from the top 4 by their scum neighbours ? For most of us losing our place in the top 4 would be a blessing, but for many of the wenger disciples it would be a catastrophe and would only serve the increase the pressure on le cock.

Anyway, as an absent Gooner, can I appeal to those of you that will be in attendance on saturday, to either bring the placards distributed to ye or bring one of your own

Have to agree, we have Wenger on the run, switching to a general 'need for change' takes the heat off him. it may mean a few of the akb's join in, but as soon as any mild abuse turns to Le Fool it will cause civil war once again.
I cant put this point strongly enough, for silent Stan's philosophy to work it needs the managers compliance.
We know Stans idea of a sport franchise business is to make cash and any baubles (as he sees it) that come along are a bonus, not a prerequisite.
What exactly is Wenger's own strategy?, does he also believe a football club should self sustain from recent income?
That it is unfair to delve into previous seasons profit, and the ever growing slush fund should only be there for allowing drops in income, missing out on the CL for example.
We are told he is an intelligent mam, so when he says every August this squad can challenge for major trophies, does he really believe it?
For a club charging the highest tickets prices in europe it wouldnt do to say, we should get top 4 but the title is probably a step too far.
Then to detract from his stubborness not to upgrade the team Wenger comes out with the excuses about players unavailable, that is his reluctance to hustle smaller clubs for their best players, god forbid we should pay a penny too much for them. Along with the line of players not around better than what he has. How long can he keep that up for when an upstart club like Leicester can produce half a dozen better players than what we have
What I am saying here is that a coach that puts his personal ambition to win trophies behind that of satisfying the demands of an owner, who is only there for the cash, is a fraud.
It should be a fine balance between funding a top quality team, and not putting the club in financial jeopardy, after all we are a football team not a finance company.
So those that still cling on to the hope Wenger will go of his own volition can forget it, its a perfect match for both him and Stan, and the only way we can unsettle this happy relationship is to get at Wenger.
Stan will also be aware that all these names thrown around to replace Wenger are all ambitious coaches, not likely to be shy to spend whatever transfer funds are available, rather than look for internal solutions.
Which translates to persevere with a squad containing a couple of quality players but padded out with bunch of second rate players, and eternal prospects who will never be good enough to deliver major trophies.
But are able to get top 4.
Wenger should be the clear target, start with him and then see if Stan can find another manager so willing to sell his ambition for £8m per season.

[Gunner Rob]

Placards are not direct enough for me BUT, if those who are going feel the same way, then they SHOULD change the wording and print off their own placards because this is the best chance we will ever have of a co-ordinated fans protest, and a show of numbers will at least bring some credibility to story that we are not happy. If this show of strength works out, then maybe it be can taken up a notch for the villa game and maybe the protests could be more direct towards wenger - can you imagine the feeling within the ground if we have been beaten the previous week by citeeh and displaced from the top 4 by their scum neighbours ? For most of us losing our place in the top 4 would be a blessing, but for many of the wenger disciples it would be a catastrophe and would only serve the increase the pressure on le cock.

Anyway, as an absent Gooner, can I appeal to those of you that will be in attendance on saturday, to either bring the placards distributed to ye or bring one of your own

AGREED, don't like this clouding of the waters by BS and RA but no other choice on this one, have to get behind it, and target WENGER OUT

I think everyone has their own idea on the best way to get Wenger out.
We wont all agree, HOWEVER for the first time there has now been a coming together by the fans groups and so everyone should get behind this.
The only way to get rid of Wenger is to present a united opposition. Yes the tone is a bit generalised, but lets face it if everyone marched in with a "Get out now Wenger" placard then the stewards wouldn't let people get very far. As far as I am aware everyone is also being encouraged to bring in their own banners as well anyway. I am sure that the Wenger out banners will be what the TV focus on anyway - its just the backdrop of the other bits of paper being waved will make the protest more effective.

[foxinthebox2001]

We already get our bags searched and patted down twice before getting in, at least I do coming from the Holloway Rd side, three times if you venture into the Armoury.
If the stewards saw any folded up signs it wouldnt surprise me for them to be conficated, on the grounds of showing it inside the ground may cause friction among fans. Its the only excuse they need.
So my advice is keep it tucked out of sight, that wont be seen by a cursory glance.

[armchair]