I'm not sure exactly what your point is here. The fact you pay so much money even travelling as far as Moscow is what makes it all the more baffling as to why you'd want to leave early. We pay all this cash to 'support' the team, and leaving early is not supporting the team. In fact it's rude. You ...

don't think any players are all that loyal any more. if he stays this summer i'm sure he'll buck his ideas up, he'll have to. i'll be backing him anyway

one point re the negativity towards adebarndoor:
ronaldo spent much of his time in the early years sulking/demanding more money/courting real madrid - the united faithful stuck by him and he became the best player in the world for them. clearly ade isn't as talented but perhaps a lesson to the short ...

hatemanu99/MT - great discussion.
Frankly it's hard to disagree with either of you on most points. I do despise the early leavers though.
MT - are we checking the spelling of "desparation" or "asumed"........? Calm down both of you!