Mikel Arteta, success or failure? - Merged thread.

[Redarmy]

He will never convince me he's the right man for the job as long as he continually picks Xhakatard. And it doesn't help with fans like this

https://twitter.com/DammitArsenal/statu ... 4776400899

'Dominating the game' !! Jesus wept!!

Jesus. Those tweets are embarrassing. The kind of delusional uninformed nonsense only children and modern JCL superfans can come up with.

Agreed 100% on not taking him seriously whilst he continually picks Xhakatard. And Linda.

Thing is though, if you’re strongly against Arteta picking Xhaka, then that leaves us with Elneny and Ceballos because Partey is never fit

Honestly, as much as I want Xhaka out of the team, I can totally understand why he plays most games given our other options, even if this emoji sums up my feelings on our midfield options...

By the way, brace yourself for xhaka staying long term. There’s so much uncertainty over the futures of Ceballos, Elneny, Guendouzi, Torreira and Willock, that it’s almost guaranteed Xhaka is staying put!

I am not taking the piss or being facetious here in any way g88ner when I say I would play anyone else in there ahead of Xhakatard. He contributes so little of worth and so much poor quality decision making, ineptitude, unforced errors and outright stupidity that any of Ceballos, Elneny, Guendouzi, Torreira and even Willock are better options.

He's a childish selfish moron. How many times has he been booked for stupid unnecessary fouls and sent off for reacting to an oppo player, thinking only of himself. His slow walk off the pitch when subbed at Palace while we were desperately chasing the game and his reaction to the resultant jeering said everything about this mong. The one thing I can never forgive Dick for is not sacking the wànker the next morning and then bringing him back into the team.

And now apparently he's a victim of racism. Only in the modern world of football could a privileged spoiled rich white guy present himself as a victim.

But worse than his character defects off the pitch, Xhakatard is the ultimate bluffer on the pitch. He takes no responsibility to create real opportunity for team mates, nearly always choosing the cowards option of passing sideways or backwards even when under no pressure - the odd time he does try to create something going forward he almost always pisses possession away - again, often under no pressure.

He's an expert bluffer at the Comedy Iwobi art of lazily arriving back into a defensive position after it's too late or the danger has passed, bending over and grabbing his knees and looking exhausted, for all the world a man that just busted a gut to get back.

He's a pointer too. Watch him walking around taking no responsibility on the ball but constantly pointing to where his team mates should pass. That is the ultimate "midfield general" bluffer. It gives the impression he's a leader. He's not. A leader takes responsibility and leads by example. This fucking mutt hides out there.

Sorry about the novel there g88ner mate but I hate this cowardly useless piece of shit almost more than I've ever hated any player in our Jersey (on a par with Cashley and VanJudas and Fat Santos) but at least Cashley and VanJudas, while being cùnts, were proper ballers.

It worries me that either Martinez-Lite cannot see what Xhakatard really is, or that Martinez-Lite is just being a stubborn egotist and digging his heels in Wenger-style by continually starting our actual worst player in a generation. Either scenario really do not bode well for the future of this club.

Captured most of it quite accurately, missed out his trick of when hes dwelling on the ball and tries to turn when under pressue he falls over claiming a foul....absolutely despise the mug...see hes 28 so may have a few more years of watching him still

[augie]

We wont have a few more years of having to look at xhaka cos (and I'm not digging at you g88ner btw) arteta is only playing him os he has no other option but he will bomb him out in the summer. What do you mean we heard that this time last year ?? This year it is bound to come through

[SteveO 35]

We wont have a few more years of having to look at xhaka cos (and I'm not digging at you g88ner btw) arteta is only playing him os he has no other option but he will bomb him out in the summer. What do you mean we heard that this time last year ?? This year it is bound to come through

Bit like he had no choice but to offer David Luiz another year, whilst we loaned out Saliba to 'get some more experience' (experience of playing in the only division he's ever played in, which obviously works). I'm sure that will be corrected this summer too!

The reality - Bellerin and Xhaka will be the two outfield players with the most minutes next season, Saliba, Balogun and Martinelli won't be here one way or another, and we'll still only have 1 left footed full back. None of it will be his fault though - all down to the owners and Edu

[g88ner]

We wont have a few more years of having to look at xhaka cos (and I'm not digging at you g88ner btw) arteta is only playing him os he has no other option but he will bomb him out in the summer. What do you mean we heard that this time last year ?? This year it is bound to come through

Yeah, it seems weird to me but Emery loved Xhaka and Arteta seems to as well. They both talk about him in such glowing terms; hard to fathom based on what we see on match days

I don’t get it but I fully expect Xhaka to be a regular next season too.

[robbo10]

According to Sly sports Arteta has dismissed interest from Barcelona today,said he’s happy at Arsenal and he’s privileged to manage them.

[robbo10]

We wont have a few more years of having to look at xhaka cos (and I'm not digging at you g88ner btw) arteta is only playing him os he has no other option but he will bomb him out in the summer. What do you mean we heard that this time last year ?? This year it is bound to come through

Bit like he had no choice but to offer David Luiz another year, whilst we loaned out Saliba to 'get some more experience' (experience of playing in the only division he's ever played in, which obviously works). I'm sure that will be corrected this summer too!

The reality - Bellerin and Xhaka will be the two outfield players with the most minutes next season, Saliba, Balogun and Martinelli won't be here one way or another, and we'll still only have 1 left footed full back. None of it will be his fault though - all down to the owners and Edu

That would be a travesty if we lost Martinelli to another club,for whatever reason,a fucking travesty

[Redarmy]

We wont have a few more years of having to look at xhaka cos (and I'm not digging at you g88ner btw) arteta is only playing him os he has no other option but he will bomb him out in the summer. What do you mean we heard that this time last year ?? This year it is bound to come through

He will still be here...hes first one on team sheet....Arteta stopped him going to Germany after long talks to persuade him to stay....plenty more of this fraud to see for the next 3 years or so.......

[augie]

According to Sly sports Arteta has dismissed interest from Barcelona today,said he’s happy at Arsenal and he’s privileged to manage them.

Take out the word "privileged" and replace it with the "lucky", and then we will be a bit closer to the truth

[IW8Goalmachine]

Please get the vaccine out quicker so crowds can get this *word censored* out of our club before he does anymore damage to our young players

[goonersid]

He has to go!

[SteveO 35]

Back to the original question, and I'll give the original answer. An absolute disaster of an appointment - somehow managed to take us further backwards than Wenger was managing towards the end of his reign- quite an achievement. Wenger won 3 FA Cups towards the end of his reign and it kept him employed. Sadly I think the one that El Beige won is having a similar impact. Miles off being a CL team under Wenger, now miles off being a Europa League team under this goon.

As I said at the start there have been a handful of managers under the age of 37 in PL history and all of them have been a disaster. Its an experienced man's job dealing with top level players. It was never going to work and every week we persist with this nonsense is another damaging step backwards

[goonersid]

Back to the original question, and I'll give the original answer. An absolute disaster of an appointment - somehow managed to take us further backwards than Wenger was managing towards the end of his reign- quite an achievement. Wenger won 3 FA Cups towards the end of his reign and it kept him employed. Sadly I think the one that El Beige won is having a similar impact. Miles off being a CL team under Wenger, now miles off being a Europa League team under this goon.

As I said at the start there have been a handful of managers under the age of 37 in PL history and all of them have been a disaster. Its an experienced man's job dealing with top level players. It was never going to work and every week we persist with this nonsense is another damaging step backwards

I finally agree Stevo, now surely any progress in this seasons elge is detrimental in terms of getting shot of him?

[SteveO 35]

Back to the original question, and I'll give the original answer. An absolute disaster of an appointment - somehow managed to take us further backwards than Wenger was managing towards the end of his reign- quite an achievement. Wenger won 3 FA Cups towards the end of his reign and it kept him employed. Sadly I think the one that El Beige won is having a similar impact. Miles off being a CL team under Wenger, now miles off being a Europa League team under this goon.

As I said at the start there have been a handful of managers under the age of 37 in PL history and all of them have been a disaster. Its an experienced man's job dealing with top level players. It was never going to work and every week we persist with this nonsense is another damaging step backwards

I finally agree Stevo, now surely any progress in this seasons elge is detrimental in terms of getting shot of him?

I get the logic Sid. I want him gone yesterday, but its all about trophies isn't it, and we have one left to play for. To be honest I think even if the Greeks knock us out and we finish no higher than 10th, he'll still be here next year anyway. Depressing!

[goonersid]

Back to the original question, and I'll give the original answer. An absolute disaster of an appointment - somehow managed to take us further backwards than Wenger was managing towards the end of his reign- quite an achievement. Wenger won 3 FA Cups towards the end of his reign and it kept him employed. Sadly I think the one that El Beige won is having a similar impact. Miles off being a CL team under Wenger, now miles off being a Europa League team under this goon.

As I said at the start there have been a handful of managers under the age of 37 in PL history and all of them have been a disaster. Its an experienced man's job dealing with top level players. It was never going to work and every week we persist with this nonsense is another damaging step backwards

I finally agree Stevo, now surely any progress in this seasons elge is detrimental in terms of getting shot of him?

I get the logic Sid. I want him gone yesterday, but its all about trophies isn't it, and we have one left to play for. To be honest I think even if the Greeks knock us out and we finish no higher than 10th, he'll still be here next year anyway. Depressing!

No Stevo! That's like a battered wife staying with her abuser, because he buys her flowers!
To have any chance of getting him out in the next 12 months, then we need a united front against him from day one
The more misery bestowed on us between now and the end of this season, will give that anger huge momentum for next season!
Imagine we lose our first home game? He would be on the ropes from day 1.
We've been here before as you pointed out with Wenger. Those fa cup wins merely allowed him more time to absolutely fuck us up.
All that said, I have no worries regarding us winning the elge, we might scrape past the greeks (i think they'll beat us) but there are too many better teams with better managers remaining.

[northbank123]

He is awful, but no matter how bad it continues to be he will stay in a job until fans are back in stadiums.

Whilst our fans are meek to say the least, imagine the toxic atmosphere with limp-dicked home defeats without scoring against Burnley, Leicester and Villa where we were lucky it was only 3. There would have been 5000+ empty seats and it wouldn’t have disappeared in the news cycle because it was Sunday evening kick off.