European Super League announced

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If we were to be relegated the Wig would be hunted down.

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What happened to the Black Scarf Movement?

All Arsenal fans groups should be mobilising together to fight this!

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The thing is we are viewing this from a UK point of view whereas the owners are viewing this from a global point of view.
And globally I think the majority of “fans” will be in favour of the proposals.
There was some Chinese guy sitting in his bedroom in Beijing who said on the news he was looking forward to the new games.
We are dealing with people who have no idea or interest in the history of the game and are just doing what they want with it.
This is going to get ugly.

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BobbyPires7 wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:25 am
If we were to be relegated the Wig would be hunted down.
I would think that the rest of the premier league clubs would not want to expel the six clubs as it would put their own financial position in jeopardy due to TV money but they would like to make an example of a team. My worry is that they will go for a big points reduction that would deny Champions League football to City, Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and plunge one of the six in relegation trouble and that would be us.

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This really is unprecedented. Has there ever been a decision so universally disliked? :lol: Hell, even the Nazi’s had a following... the owners of the founding members haven’t even got their own players and managers on side :lol:

I do think there’s a lot of hysteria and faux outrage going on though. Seriously, James Corden nearly in tears? President of UEFA threatening to ban the players from international tournaments even though they had fuck all to do with this decision? Get a grip FFS :oops: :lol:

The icing on the cake is FIFA talking about morals, integrity and protecting the game. Corrupt bastards :lol: :lol:

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John F wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:53 am
BobbyPires7 wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:25 am
If we were to be relegated the Wig would be hunted down.
I would think that the rest of the premier league clubs would not want to expel the six clubs as it would put their own financial position in jeopardy due to TV money but they would like to make an example of a team. My worry is that they will go for a big points reduction that would deny Champions League football to City, Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and plunge one of the six in relegation trouble and that would be us.
Good, I hope they chuck us all out and we start next year in the Championship, its what the Kroenkes deserve and much more likely they fuck off and sell up, we might get our club back with a bit of luck, I would take a season or two in the Championship to get that.
I hate Uefa, Fifa and Sky taking the moral high ground on this though, they only care because it will hurt them, they haven`t cared about the fans for years and years, if ever, hence the ludicrous kick off times they insist on and now they are championing themselves as the saviours, absolute crunts the lot of them!

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These clubs need to be threatened immediately to make them see sense or otherwise they are going to press on with this.
Trouble is if Kroenke is threatened then I think he will press on regardless. He will try and get this through and if he destroys Arsenal in the process then he is prepared to do that.

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Terrible day for football. Effectively ending upwards mobility by killing the chance to join the elite in the champions league by making top competition close ended. The rise and fall of football clubs has always been part of the game, now its over.

I also dont now how to feel about the fact we are one of twelve guilt for this atrocity. Were the fucking villains. I imagine this is how the good Germans felt watching their country became the bad guys of the world in the 1930's.

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Arsenal will hold a Fans Forum on Thursday evening, with senior officials including Vinai Venkatesham and Edu expected to address supporter concerns over the European Super League.

Mikel Arteta's press conference is scheduled for 9am on Thursday.

https://t.co/1J1b2dpwIs

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Player silence on social media, the sneaky c.unt owners have run for cover so it’s going to be the managers of the clubs that cop all the shit form the media.

Klopp got it last night, Tuchel’s turn tonight :roll:

Fucking vermin should be driven out of every club in the country, starting with scum c.unt Kroenke the evil piece of shit.

Fuck and die you cancerous leech :twisted:

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wilson2.0 wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:31 am
Terrible day for football. Effectively ending upwards mobility by killing the chance to join the elite in the champions league by making top competition close ended. The rise and fall of football clubs has always been part of the game, now its over.

I also dont now how to feel about the fact we are one of twelve guilt for this atrocity. Were the fucking villains. I imagine this is how the good Germans felt watching their country became the bad guys of the world in the 1930's.
no it is not because it won't go ahead

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:45 pm
wilson2.0 wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:31 am
Terrible day for football. Effectively ending upwards mobility by killing the chance to join the elite in the champions league by making top competition close ended. The rise and fall of football clubs has always been part of the game, now its over.

I also dont now how to feel about the fact we are one of twelve guilt for this atrocity. Were the fucking villains. I imagine this is how the good Germans felt watching their country became the bad guys of the world in the 1930's.
no it is not because it won't go ahead
Oh yes it will Rob, neither UEFA nor anyone else can stop it!
They can threaten, ban or whatever else, but any action they take against the top clubs, will merely weaken what they are trying to "protect" and I use the word "protect" reservedly, as they are merely trying to protect their own interests!
UEFA is no longer fit for purpose, Perez is right, football needs revamped and made more attractive!
Games against dross from the shittiest leagues in eastern Europe, are fucking pointless and a borefest!
UEFA has had it's way for too long!
Look at our elge final against the Chavs, where two English teams and their fans were made to travel to fucking Baku! Holy Jesus Christ!
Where was the common sense and respect for the fans, shown by UEFA?
Despite pleas to move the game to London, Baku could still have had their financial reward!
No UEFA basically told the two clubs and fans to fuck off!
I've been saying for years this would happen, long before talks were leaked a couple of years ago.
I personally back it 100%
I'm sure that after a settling in period, there will he plans for relegation and promotion introduced!

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Have to agree about the massive hypocrisy from so many quarters in the football world. FIFA, UEFA, Sky etc. Yeah, they really care about the "values of the game". And no. I'm not impressed by Bayern of the BayersnLiga and oil money PSG turning it down, either.
And then on top of that random TV celebrities jumping on the popularity train. God.

The idea of 15 clubs being in it automatically is, of course, terrible. But if they packed that aspect of it in (ie a "league-like" substitute of the CL) I haven't got much of an issue with it. Couldn't possibly be more corrupt than UEFA/FIFA. And have you seen the absolute shambles of the 36 team format that UEFA has planned for the CL form 2024?

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Of course the ESL will go ahead. A group of the worlds richest men in sport have taken 2 years to draw up a plan, do you not think they will have had specialist lawyers going over every single rule etc to ensure there was no legal challenge to it?

How the fuck can FIFA or UEFA stop someone playing for their country because they decided to play in someone else's competition? That would be in court quicker than you can say 'discrimination'.
How can they deduct points/throw teams out of competitions? Because they have said they want to play in another competition? I'm pretty damned sure the billionaires boys club will have looked at that carefully - not a chance it will happen.
Boris 'Flipflopper' Johnson saying he'll do everything he can to stop it? I doubt you even know the name of Arsenal's ground you lying, faceless c.unt, any sound bite for a few votes.
The Premier league without the big 5 and Spuds? You can call it the Championship 2, it will be a nothing competition.
CL without the big 12? Call it the Johnsons Paint Fairs Cup.

Football can't afford to bin any of the 'big' clubs because like it or not they bring in most of the money. There's a lot of posturing from UEFA and FIFA because they can see the gravy train has reached the end of the line. For everyone else, it seems like the 'closed shop' is the problem. That maybe will be amended slightly in time and the guaranteed no relegation cut from 20 years to 10 or something like that.

Whichever way you look at it, it's likely to go ahead if they want it to, it's been coming for some time and the bottom line is, you can't fuck the biggest 12 (sorry, 11 and Spuds) teams out of general competition and expect the old way to work as normal, Burnley v Aston Villa on 'Judgement Day Sunday' just isn't going to pull in the crowds!!

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g88ner wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:18 am
This really is unprecedented. Has there ever been a decision so universally disliked? :lol: Hell, even the Nazi’s had a following... the owners of the founding members haven’t even got their own players and managers on side :lol:

I do think there’s a lot of hysteria and faux outrage going on though. Seriously, James Corden nearly in tears? President of UEFA threatening to ban the players from international tournaments even though they had fuck all to do with this decision? Get a grip FFS :oops: :lol:

The icing on the cake is FIFA talking about morals, integrity and protecting the game. Corrupt bastards :lol: :lol:
Definitely. I dont know which is worse - watching the asshole Billionaire Soccer Franchise Owners try to screw the other 100 clubs in the pyramid or the multimillion ex-pros and anything for rating TV Slebs crying about the betrayal of "the people's game".

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