THE WENGER THREAD
NEW MANAGEMENT ROLE FOR WENGER
Rumours are rife that our esteemed leader is to branch out into Boy Band Management.
The band are apparently interested but feel it is only right that if the proposal goes ahead they should change their name to
**** NO DIRECTION****
Can't see their reasoning can you??
The band are apparently interested but feel it is only right that if the proposal goes ahead they should change their name to
**** NO DIRECTION****
Can't see their reasoning can you??
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i things are changing slowly - but the AKB's are claiming its injuries that have done us in - again...
and of course our poor performances over 16 games won't stop wonga flying out of Heathrow tomorrow for his other paid gig will it ?
wonga is bailed out by the international break again sadly.
and of course our poor performances over 16 games won't stop wonga flying out of Heathrow tomorrow for his other paid gig will it ?
wonga is bailed out by the international break again sadly.
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I don't honestly believe that Wenger believes that playing 4-5-1 come what may is going to get us the best result. Deep down he knew the importance of winning the FA Cup last year, and for 10-15 minutes against Wigan we went 2 up front and scrapped all of our principles and just tonked the ball into the box time and time again. Wenger could see things weren't working, knew we needed to change and for once he actually did it and it saved our skin.
It's like picking the same team this week as capitulated Tuesday and yet again waiting so long before making a sub. I don't think he believed it was the best thing to do, he just did it to try and prove a point. I don't doubt that he is incredibly arrogant, stubborn and tunnel-visioned but I also think that he consciously ignores basic tactical sense because he has backed himself into a corner to such an extent.
Wenger is not just making poor decisions, he's not just got a different perspective to fans, he is acting in the interests of his own ego in direct contradiction to the interests of the club.
It's like picking the same team this week as capitulated Tuesday and yet again waiting so long before making a sub. I don't think he believed it was the best thing to do, he just did it to try and prove a point. I don't doubt that he is incredibly arrogant, stubborn and tunnel-visioned but I also think that he consciously ignores basic tactical sense because he has backed himself into a corner to such an extent.
Wenger is not just making poor decisions, he's not just got a different perspective to fans, he is acting in the interests of his own ego in direct contradiction to the interests of the club.
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Some fans are criticised for saying they want the team to lose, but in fairness, this isn't The Arsenal that most people grew up supporting. This is a business, in which ticket prices are extortionate, to watch sub-standard football, and in which our manager defends these high ticket prices, while earning 8 million a year. This is a business, in which the board care only about profits, and couldn't care less about on field success. The only resemblance between this Arsenal, and the one we all grew up watching is the colour of the jersey, and nothing else. Anyone that wants their Arsenal back, its gone, it left the minute the Americans became involved with the club, and our manger is culpable in this, he is a disgrace, and has no class.
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On the contrary - Wenger has been heading in one direction since 2008Step wrote:Rumours are rife that our esteemed leader is to branch out into Boy Band Management.
The band are apparently interested but feel it is only right that if the proposal goes ahead they should change their name to
**** NO DIRECTION****
Can't see their reasoning can you??
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Great post BFG4
The way I see it now is this - at what point do the board become the bigger problem for not sacking Wenger?
The way I see it now is this - at what point do the board become the bigger problem for not sacking Wenger?
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Kroenke is the biggest problem because he is the one who matters most - he is the majority owner and calls all the shots so until the day he goes all the whining and moaning in the world won't change a thing
He renewed Wenger's contract without any reference to the FA Cup win - it was done purely for the reason that Wenger is 'on message' to maximise the club's profit at all costs.
He renewed Wenger's contract without any reference to the FA Cup win - it was done purely for the reason that Wenger is 'on message' to maximise the club's profit at all costs.
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The story of our lives, we score a goal, we then get one, and another twooo and Monreal is fro-o-o-o-zen...
The story of our lives, we lead by three, we fuck things up, but Wenger doesn't see and Monreal is fro-o-o-o-zen...
The story of our lives, he gave us hope, he'll spend enough until we're broke and until 2017 he is cho-o-o-o-sen...
And we'll be waiting for that time, to come around, when Jurgen Klopp will stand and lead us from the dugo-o-o-ut..
The story of our lives, we should stay home, we work all week to afford a seat, to see, how Monreal stands fro-o-o-o-zen..
(yes, I actually googled one of their songs )
The story of our lives, we lead by three, we fuck things up, but Wenger doesn't see and Monreal is fro-o-o-o-zen...
The story of our lives, he gave us hope, he'll spend enough until we're broke and until 2017 he is cho-o-o-o-sen...
And we'll be waiting for that time, to come around, when Jurgen Klopp will stand and lead us from the dugo-o-o-ut..
The story of our lives, we should stay home, we work all week to afford a seat, to see, how Monreal stands fro-o-o-o-zen..
(yes, I actually googled one of their songs )
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Defensive frailties?
People keep mentioning the loss of Sagna and Vermaelen but lets not forgot that the clueless tactically inept Frenchman also saw it fit to loan out Carl Jenkinson for a season.
What kind of person weakens the defence and then loans out one of our better defenders to a premier league club?
An incompetent Clueless outdated has been.
We really learnt from our performance on tues didn't we.
Come on Bouldy, be brave and open your mouth a bit.
People keep mentioning the loss of Sagna and Vermaelen but lets not forgot that the clueless tactically inept Frenchman also saw it fit to loan out Carl Jenkinson for a season.
What kind of person weakens the defence and then loans out one of our better defenders to a premier league club?
An incompetent Clueless outdated has been.
We really learnt from our performance on tues didn't we.
Come on Bouldy, be brave and open your mouth a bit.
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Members of the board do want on the pitch success, but they have to slowly chip away at Wenger's power.BFG4 wrote:This is a business, in which the board care only about profits, and couldn't care less about on field success.
Because Wenger has the backing of the owner.
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Loans out a guy that can play RB and CB (his own words when we signed him) and then watches him play regularly for a side currently above us in the PL. He was quite happy throwing Jenko to the wolves when we lost 8-2 but 3 years later when our first choice right back for the past 7 years left the club he loans him out. Utter genius !Step wrote:Defensive frailties?
People keep mentioning the loss of Sagna and Vermaelen but lets not forgot that the clueless tactically inept Frenchman also saw it fit to loan out Carl Jenkinson for a season.
What kind of person weakens the defence and then loans out one of our better defenders to a premier league club?
An incompetent Clueless outdated has been.
We really learnt from our performance on tues didn't we.
Come on Bouldy, be brave and open your mouth a bit.
ONE ARSENE WENGER......THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER
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They want a top 4 finish to ensure those corporate boxes are sold out for CL nights and to ensure the £25m prize money comes their way. The FA Cup earned us £2m - did Kroenke even go to Wembley ?QuartzGooner wrote:Members of the board do want on the pitch success, but they have to slowly chip away at Wenger's power.BFG4 wrote:This is a business, in which the board care only about profits, and couldn't care less about on field success.
Because Wenger has the backing of the owner.
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Not my point.SteveO 35 wrote:They want a top 4 finish to ensure those corporate boxes are sold out for CL nights and to ensure the £25m prize money comes their way. The FA Cup earned us £2m - did Kroenke even go to Wembley ?QuartzGooner wrote:Members of the board do want on the pitch success, but they have to slowly chip away at Wenger's power.BFG4 wrote:This is a business, in which the board care only about profits, and couldn't care less about on field success.
Because Wenger has the backing of the owner.
They want the title.
But whilst Kroenke backs Wenger they have to pick their battles.
Top four finish does not guarantee sold out boxes, fair few empty boxes and club level seats even on Champions League nights.
Kroenke went to Wembley.
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Really wanted Jenkinson to do well and stay with us. Like the lad a lot. Stupid to have loaned him out in the summer.SteveO 35 wrote:Loans out a guy that can play RB and CB (his own words when we signed him) and then watches him play regularly for a side currently above us in the PL. He was quite happy throwing Jenko to the wolves when we lost 8-2 but 3 years later when our first choice right back for the past 7 years left the club he loans him out. Utter genius !Step wrote:Defensive frailties?
People keep mentioning the loss of Sagna and Vermaelen but lets not forgot that the clueless tactically inept Frenchman also saw it fit to loan out Carl Jenkinson for a season.
What kind of person weakens the defence and then loans out one of our better defenders to a premier league club?
An incompetent Clueless outdated has been.
We really learnt from our performance on tues didn't we.
Come on Bouldy, be brave and open your mouth a bit.
ONE ARSENE WENGER......THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER
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Loses 8-2; loses 6-0, 6-3, 5-1, 4-0 and, in fact, has his arse handed to him on a frighteningly regular basis by all and sundry and he's still in a job.
The owner loves him, the media love him and, almost inexplicably, the majority of fans still worship at his arse. He is going nowhere fast.
The owner loves him, the media love him and, almost inexplicably, the majority of fans still worship at his arse. He is going nowhere fast.