There's always hope, mate. I actually believe if the protests were to continue over the next 2 seasons (and hopefully grow in numbers / public spectacles etc as the team continues to underachieve) then at some point over those 2 years (maybe even only at the end) it just might trigger a spoiled brat response in Wenger whereby he says "Right fuck the lot of you, you ungrateful bastards. I'm too good for you" and then storms off in a huff. It's also a minuscule hope, I freely admit it, but I think there is more chance of that than him being sacked by our useless crunt owner or the protest (so far) leading to Wenger suddenly realising he isn't the man for the job and leaving in an honourable way.NickF wrote:Kroenke is not a football man so would hope he would employ/listen to someone who is. He did actually sack the head coach at his NFL side this season so there is hope.......DB10GOONER wrote:Again, it comes back to our owner and board. Kroenke is not a football man. He is a business man. We are not shit enough to hurt his return. Financially the pressure is not there. You have to remember that Arsenal operates as a non-quoted public limited company, so our ownership is considerably different from that of other football clubs. Wenger brings in the CL money (and the supposed prestige that goes with it for the marketing boys ) and the bowl sells enough season tickets and brings in enough tourists and JCL mongs that match day revenue is still profitable. Kroenke is the ONLY one with the power to sack Wenger but he won't. What does he care what a few thousand ungrateful fuckers like us think? If our owner was a football man (like many other owners) then maybe we could influence the owner and he'd sack Wenger. But he ain't.NickF wrote:You really don't think you can change things through protest? It has happened at other clubs so why not ours?DB10GOONER wrote:Sorry Nick but that is horseshit. It doesn't stop fuck all. It doesn't influence things either way. I'm certainly not vain enough to think my opinion or comments will influence anyone. People make their own choices. And that is the problem. A lot of people that on the surface want a change of manager are not protesting because they believe (rightly or wrongly) that the owner/board will not be swayed by us the fans. Also, I think we need to be a bit more pragmatic and accept that we who want Wenger out are still not in the majority of Arsenal fans. We are (I believe) a large minority. It's a shame, but I believe it is true.NickF wrote:
Unfortunately it is this kind of thinking that stops the protest. The club can ignore a couple of hundred protesters but they couldn't ignore thousands. But most still think, why bother. Anyway, I am tired of this argument and I am tired of our fans. If Wenger signs I know I got off my Arsenal and did everything I could, sadly most didn't.
Does that mean the protests should stop? No. If people still have the heart for it then they should keep it going. Do I hope a continued protest could in some way someday see Wenger off? Yes, of course. Do I believe in my heart and soul that it would? No.
Either way, we at the Online Gooner (admin and mods) will continue to facilitate and offer any help we can to the leaders of the protest, some of which is stuff that can't be discussed on here.
To be honest I'm really sick of arguing but mostly sick of our fans.
So what is the other option? Hope Wenger gets sick of the protest and leaves off his own bat? I can't see that happening with his ego so out of whack... although I'd say there might be more chance of that happening then the wiggy cúnt sacking him... but even then, it's a minuscule chance.
The problem is though that to trigger such a response in Wenger it would mean the protest becoming more vitriolic and less respectful and who knows how many Gooners would be willing to go down that road. Maybe very few. But if the next two seasons are a repeat of the same old shit, then who knows...the numbers could grow significantly...
It's a slim slim hope but it is hope.