CoronaVirus / Adolf Putin / The Apocalypse etc

[goonertux]

Try AdBlock. Seems to work fine. And I agree, long requoted replies are a pain. Easier on Landscape view on your phone though.

[rodders999]

Try AdBlock. Seems to work fine. And I agree, long requoted replies are a pain. Easier on Landscape view on your phone though.

Nice one. I thought safari could do it for me but I downloaded some app and the two lads in the video are finally a thing of the past. Those two fuckers used to follow me around the page like Mona Lisa’s eyes except in a menacing homoerotic way.

As for putting the phone in landscape, what sort of animal do you think I am man

Back on subject great to see the bundesliga back yesterday, yeah it’s shite and soulless with no fans but as my nan would say - half a loaf is better than no bread - and we’ve been fucking starved the last 2 months. I watched a couple of games, not my drug of choice but I got my fix none the less.

How convenient that it’s the bottom 6 clubs that are so against restarting the PL, fuck the lot of em and relegate them all of they won’t play. They have fuck all concern for player safety as they claim they’re fucking concerned about losing millions of pounds by going down.

Nigel Pearson, the Brighton chairman, Karen fucking Brady? Bin the lot of them to the championship and promote anyone who wants to play ball.

[rodders999]

Just after submitting the above post and the two fucking lads are back

[goonertux]

Just after submitting the above post and the two fucking lads are back

Get Ad Block Green from the App Store. Easy to use and those two blokes will be gone forever.

As for relegation, the only club I would just love to see relegated would be Stratford Olympic with the Porn Brothers and Brady in the Championship. Please make it happen!

[goonersid]

Sorry but i have to agree with Jock on this, teachers have been whining for years over Government interference, now they along with their respective Unions are whining about not being given enough guidance. FFS they are the professionals in their respective professions so they should be coming up with solutions like every other business out there trying to get back in to working order.....

Sorry but it doesnt wash for me when Teachers earning considerably more than your average supermarket worker, delivery driver or care worker are able to avoid their responsibilities to the young of the country en masse, but hey they're ok on 100% wages able to work from home unlike a large part of the population who are dependant on their kids going to school so the parents can in turn earn a living, many of whom have been having to put themselves at risk out at work during the peak of the crisis

Different country I know, but I agree with both of ye on how pampered teachers are. Over here our leaving cert students (equivalent of your A levels), are having their grades decided by an accumulation of teacher gradings, mock test results, and average result tests over the last few years - these are the most important results of the secondary school lives and will have a huge impact on what college courses and jobs they can get, and the want it decided by some mish mash b.ullshit like this ?? I hear people saying that exams cant go ahead cos of social distancing, but all over the country there are empty primary and secondary schools and classrooms that they could utilise by spreading out the kids sitting the exams, but that would need more people to supervise exams and there is no chance that teachers will agree to do that despite being fully paid whilst sitting at home on their arses for the past 3 months

No doubt the world as it currently is is a mess, but it is a mess where people should all pull together to work things out instead of one group sitting back and waiting for everyone else to do what is necessary - if this was a virus that we knew would last for x number of weeks or months then I would understand (maybe) people's reluctance to put themselves out there, but this virus could be around for years so at what stage are they gonna get back to living life ? It is an excuse for some to stay at home on full pay, and especially those working in the public sector

Btw Jock, I could be reading it wrong, but I thought that your original post was having a pop at parents more than teachers - am I wrong ?

The reason teachers need guidance on returning to work, whereas other professions might come up with their own solution is simple!!
Teachers will have up to 30 kids in their care! To expect schools to devise a way to do this is unreasonable.
If schools were to do this, then someone’s “little Johnny” contracts covid 19 and ends up in hospital?? Surely you can see where I’m going with this?
My missus is a primary school teacher and has been putting in about 4 hours everyday working from home, emailing parents and setting out work timetables etc. That’s her job!! It’s not her job to come up with a plan on how to keep herself and 25 kids safe in the confined space of a classroom.
On exams ? Kids have been out of school for 3 months!! It would be unfair to expect them to return to do exams. some of which will have a huge bearing on their future.
Lots of kids will have been studying at home and receiving tremendous support from their parents.
There will also be many who will not have picked up a pencil since this thing started, kids who the only support and encouragement they get, comes in the classroom!
So it would be a huge injustice on these kids to expect them to sit exams, until they completed a full term back in the classroom.

[nut flush gooner]

Sorry but i have to agree with Jock on this, teachers have been whining for years over Government interference, now they along with their respective Unions are whining about not being given enough guidance. FFS they are the professionals in their respective professions so they should be coming up with solutions like every other business out there trying to get back in to working order.....

Sorry but it doesnt wash for me when Teachers earning considerably more than your average supermarket worker, delivery driver or care worker are able to avoid their responsibilities to the young of the country en masse, but hey they're ok on 100% wages able to work from home unlike a large part of the population who are dependant on their kids going to school so the parents can in turn earn a living, many of whom have been having to put themselves at risk out at work during the peak of the crisis

Different country I know, but I agree with both of ye on how pampered teachers are. Over here our leaving cert students (equivalent of your A levels), are having their grades decided by an accumulation of teacher gradings, mock test results, and average result tests over the last few years - these are the most important results of the secondary school lives and will have a huge impact on what college courses and jobs they can get, and the want it decided by some mish mash b.ullshit like this ?? I hear people saying that exams cant go ahead cos of social distancing, but all over the country there are empty primary and secondary schools and classrooms that they could utilise by spreading out the kids sitting the exams, but that would need more people to supervise exams and there is no chance that teachers will agree to do that despite being fully paid whilst sitting at home on their arses for the past 3 months

No doubt the world as it currently is is a mess, but it is a mess where people should all pull together to work things out instead of one group sitting back and waiting for everyone else to do what is necessary - if this was a virus that we knew would last for x number of weeks or months then I would understand (maybe) people's reluctance to put themselves out there, but this virus could be around for years so at what stage are they gonna get back to living life ? It is an excuse for some to stay at home on full pay, and especially those working in the public sector

Btw Jock, I could be reading it wrong, but I thought that your original post was having a pop at parents more than teachers - am I wrong ?

The reason teachers need guidance on returning to work, whereas other professions might come up with their own solution is simple!!
Teachers will have up to 30 kids in their care! To expect schools to devise a way to do this is unreasonable.
If schools were to do this, then someone’s “little Johnny” contracts covid 19 and ends up in hospital?? Surely you can see where I’m going with this?
My missus is a primary school teacher and has been putting in about 4 hours everyday working from home, emailing parents and setting out work timetables etc. That’s her job!! It’s not her job to come up with a plan on how to keep herself and 25 kids safe in the confined space of a classroom.
On exams ? Kids have been out of school for 3 months!! It would be unfair to expect them to return to do exams. some of which will have a huge bearing on their future.
Lots of kids will have been studying at home and receiving tremendous support from their parents.
There will also be many who will not have picked up a pencil since this thing started, kids who the only support and encouragement they get, comes in the classroom!
So it would be a huge injustice on these kids to expect them to sit exams, until they completed a full term back in the classroom.

Not often that I side with teachers but in this instance I do.

The Government are again sticking their fingers up in the air to see if sending children back to school causes a spike in infections. My own personal hunch is 1st June is way too early, we are still losing 400+ people a day and that's despite being in lockdown since 23 March. I know a lot of the deaths are in care homes, but I am thinking if we were in quite a strict lockdown until last Wednesday, how comes so many people are still dying in the community given that it takes around a month to contract the virus and get to the stage where you succumb on a ventilator.

With regards to teachers, each of them will have a different mortality risk based on their age, weight, existing medical conditions etc. I know PPE has been a major bone of contention for a lot of keyworkers so far, but Teachers will literally have nothing to protect them. How can you operate in a non socially distanced environment (which it will be for young kids) without causing more community infections? That's before considering the risk to the children who whilst in most instances don't show any/mild symptoms have still been presenting a strange syndrome version of the disease. And whoever said that teachers are well paid, they aren't. A headteacher earns less than half that of a hospital consultant. The average teacher in London earns up to £42k in central London, less in the suburbs. Given current house prices, you couldn't buy a pot to piss in on that salary.

I still have the feeling the government want as many people infected over the summer, so they can complete their herd immunity experiment. From what I gather it's been estimated that over 1.5m people have been infected in London. That figure wouldn't surprise me at all.

Just to add to my comments, the BMA has said Teachers have every right to be concerned. I tend to listen to the BMA over some of the overpaid twats in the NHS that bowl up every day in the press update, to sugarcoat the mass slaughter figures.

[goonertux]

At last! Two voices of reason.

[Herd]

This Government is doing all it can to shift any and all blame,responsibility elsewhere.
Mrs Herd works at a school but will not be returning nor will Herd 111 be returning to school anytime soon.
There is no evidence we have turned the corner whatsoever!
Goverment just wants a payday and doesn't care if people die.

[goonertux]

This Government is doing all it can to shift any and all blame,responsibility elsewhere.
Mrs Herd works at a school but will not be returning nor will Herd 111 be returning to school anytime soon.
There is no evidence we have turned the corner whatsoever!
Goverment just wants a payday and doesn't care if people die.

More sense being spoken. But you should be ok anyway what with Herd Immunity!

[augie]

Sorry but i have to agree with Jock on this, teachers have been whining for years over Government interference, now they along with their respective Unions are whining about not being given enough guidance. FFS they are the professionals in their respective professions so they should be coming up with solutions like every other business out there trying to get back in to working order.....

Sorry but it doesnt wash for me when Teachers earning considerably more than your average supermarket worker, delivery driver or care worker are able to avoid their responsibilities to the young of the country en masse, but hey they're ok on 100% wages able to work from home unlike a large part of the population who are dependant on their kids going to school so the parents can in turn earn a living, many of whom have been having to put themselves at risk out at work during the peak of the crisis

Different country I know, but I agree with both of ye on how pampered teachers are. Over here our leaving cert students (equivalent of your A levels), are having their grades decided by an accumulation of teacher gradings, mock test results, and average result tests over the last few years - these are the most important results of the secondary school lives and will have a huge impact on what college courses and jobs they can get, and the want it decided by some mish mash b.ullshit like this ?? I hear people saying that exams cant go ahead cos of social distancing, but all over the country there are empty primary and secondary schools and classrooms that they could utilise by spreading out the kids sitting the exams, but that would need more people to supervise exams and there is no chance that teachers will agree to do that despite being fully paid whilst sitting at home on their arses for the past 3 months

No doubt the world as it currently is is a mess, but it is a mess where people should all pull together to work things out instead of one group sitting back and waiting for everyone else to do what is necessary - if this was a virus that we knew would last for x number of weeks or months then I would understand (maybe) people's reluctance to put themselves out there, but this virus could be around for years so at what stage are they gonna get back to living life ? It is an excuse for some to stay at home on full pay, and especially those working in the public sector

Btw Jock, I could be reading it wrong, but I thought that your original post was having a pop at parents more than teachers - am I wrong ?

The reason teachers need guidance on returning to work, whereas other professions might come up with their own solution is simple!!
Teachers will have up to 30 kids in their care! To expect schools to devise a way to do this is unreasonable.
If schools were to do this, then someone’s “little Johnny” contracts covid 19 and ends up in hospital?? Surely you can see where I’m going with this?
My missus is a primary school teacher and has been putting in about 4 hours everyday working from home, emailing parents and setting out work timetables etc. That’s her job!! It’s not her job to come up with a plan on how to keep herself and 25 kids safe in the confined space of a classroom.
On exams ? Kids have been out of school for 3 months!! It would be unfair to expect them to return to do exams. some of which will have a huge bearing on their future.
Lots of kids will have been studying at home and receiving tremendous support from their parents.
There will also be many who will not have picked up a pencil since this thing started, kids who the only support and encouragement they get, comes in the classroom!
So it would be a huge injustice on these kids to expect them to sit exams, until they completed a full term back in the classroom.

Sid, I am not criticising the teachers who are expecting guidance from the government, I am criticising those who are getting the guidance and are refusing to go back regardless - I know that there is a load of good and dedicated teachers that are out there, but surely you will agree that there is also a load who will exploit this situation for their own benefit and refuse to go back to work and stay at home instead. I liken this situation to that of the pro footballers only on a slightly ( ) different pay scale - there will be footballers who will refuse to play now knowing that (a) they will be paid regardless and (b) are financially wealthy enough that they dont care if they get paid or not. For me in any walk of life, if a person refuses to go back to work then they should not get paid a penny - in this situation there is understandably a big question mark over the judgement and motives of the uk government, but whose judgement and opinion will people accept before going back to work ? You cant have a situation where you trust the advice of one person but I only trust the opinion of a different person, so at that stage there has to be one group (government and health care) calling the shots, and employees have to follow or lose their jobs imo, cos otherwise there will be anarchy and schools and life in general could be closed down for at least another 18 months until they find a vaccine/cure

On the exams issue Sid, the way it is working down here is that the leaving cert students are not getting that extra full term and are being judged/assessed on previous contributions - does that seem fair when you consider how much is at stake ? There is countless situations where a teacher and pupil just have never clicked for one reason or another, so does it seem right that these teachers now have the power to determine what happens in that child's future ? This is another example of the anarchy scenario I referred to above - they fixed a date for the leaving cert exams and then backed down upon protests from some, and have now gone with this deeply flawed situation (imo) and some people aren't happy with that, and having so many voices has only heightened the confusion when we needed one group to take control and make the decision cos you will NEVER get a solution that everyone agree's with

[augie]

At last! Two voices of reason.

I can just see sid now pissing himself laughing at being called a voice of reason

[augie]

Btw I should add that I have said all along that no school should reopen before the next school year starts (late august or early September over here), but make no mistake, the same obstacles will still be here then

[rodders999]

Too many grief porn merchants knocking about wanting to hunker down in their attics until a vaccine is discovered.

There’s also way too many fucking excuses and can’t do attitudes prevailing and shouting the loudest. Every single business or premises that can reopen while maintaining social distancing should do so immediately. Nothing is going to change in 3 weeks or 3 months so what are they waiting for? They should all be open today.

We will be lucky if there’s a vaccine or anti viral this time next year so it’s time to accept our new reality and get on with things as safely as we possibly can.

[goonertux]

Too many grief porn merchants knocking about wanting to hunker down in their attics until a vaccine is discovered.

There’s also way too many fucking excuses and can’t do attitudes prevailing and shouting the loudest. Every single business or premises that can reopen while maintaining social distancing should do so immediately. Nothing is going to change in 3 weeks or 3 months so what are they waiting for? They should all be open today.

We will be lucky if there’s a vaccine or anti viral this time next year so it’s time to accept our new reality and get on with things as safely as we possibly can.

And that’s the problem with schools. Younger children cannot be relied upon to keep their distances. The so-called specialist even denying that young ones might keep touching each other. She can’t have been in a reception or year 1 class obviously. It needs to be properly thought out, rather than rushing back too soon.

[IW8Goalmachine]

On the bright side to all this the lack of pollution in the air is definetly comtributing to wildlife bring more active. The birds are singing and plenty of bees about.

Also plenty of time for other birds and bees recreational activities