CoronaVirus / Adolf Putin / The Apocalypse etc

[augie]

Is it just me or is this poxy thread going down the same political divide on here as the brexit thread has ?

[DB10GOONER]

Is it just me or is this poxy thread going down the same political divide on here as the brexit thread has ?

It ain't just you augster.....

[DB10GOONER]

[nut flush gooner]

Is it just me or is this poxy thread going down the same political divide on here as the brexit thread has ?

Pretty much. Trying to stick to science and containment here, but politicians make it hard not to comment. Also have no time for non compliers here, finding it very hard to bite my tongue with some of the stuff written.

[goonertux]

Sid, he’s not playing politics, he’s looking after the people he’s responsible for. Unlike our Govt who are more interested in lining the pockets of their ‘friends’ and donors.

Goonertux , he’s a left wing scouse anti-establishment anarchist.
Who will take any opposing view to govt,
he resisted level 3 restrictions, demanding more cash to help support the area, yet he supports a full national lockdown, which would inflict hardship on areas which have low infection rates and no need to lockdown.
He is just a mouthy northern c u n t!

Wow! Sid, I know you don’t give a shit about the virus but that is just reactionary, right-wing. nonsense. If he’s anti-establishment, and by establishment you mean the current incompetent, lying, self-serving criminals we have in Government at the moment, that’s fine with me. More people need to stand up to them and call-out the corruption and lies we are being fed every day. Hopefully, the fools who fell for the Tory spin at the last election, will now see them for what they really are and the tide will turn towards a more caring, responsible Government.

[goonersid]

Sid, he’s not playing politics, he’s looking after the people he’s responsible for. Unlike our Govt who are more interested in lining the pockets of their ‘friends’ and donors.

Goonertux , he’s a left wing scouse anti-establishment anarchist.
Who will take any opposing view to govt,
he resisted level 3 restrictions, demanding more cash to help support the area, yet he supports a full national lockdown, which would inflict hardship on areas which have low infection rates and no need to lockdown.
He is just a mouthy northern c u n t!

Wow! Sid, I know you don’t give a shit about the virus but that is just reactionary, right-wing. nonsense. If he’s anti-establishment, and by establishment you mean the current incompetent, lying, self-serving criminals we have in Government at the moment, that’s fine with me. More people need to stand up to them and call-out the corruption and lies we are being fed every day. Hopefully, the fools who fell for the Tory spin at the last election, will now see them for what they really are and the tide will turn towards a more caring, responsible Government.

Not sure about not giving a shit, but I do think it’s being tackled in the wrong way, ie we should be targetting restrictions, protection etc solely on the vulnerable.
It would then be down to them to make their own decisions.
90% are probably 80+ and already housebound or in care homes, so isolating them should be a priority.
Those of us who are fit and able should be allowed to work and socialise as normal.
We shouldn’t be restricted over what would do us less harm than seasonal flu.
Yes there will be exceptions to the rule and some “fit” people would die.
Such is life! I could have an allergic reaction to a nut or a bee sting, but it doesn’t stop me eating nuts or pottering about in my garden!

[nut flush gooner]

Sid, he’s not playing politics, he’s looking after the people he’s responsible for. Unlike our Govt who are more interested in lining the pockets of their ‘friends’ and donors.

Goonertux , he’s a left wing scouse anti-establishment anarchist.
Who will take any opposing view to govt,
he resisted level 3 restrictions, demanding more cash to help support the area, yet he supports a full national lockdown, which would inflict hardship on areas which have low infection rates and no need to lockdown.
He is just a mouthy northern c u n t!

Wow! Sid, I know you don’t give a shit about the virus but that is just reactionary, right-wing. nonsense. If he’s anti-establishment, and by establishment you mean the current incompetent, lying, self-serving criminals we have in Government at the moment, that’s fine with me. More people need to stand up to them and call-out the corruption and lies we are being fed every day. Hopefully, the fools who fell for the Tory spin at the last election, will now see them for what they really are and the tide will turn towards a more caring, responsible Government.

Not sure about not giving a shit, but I do think it’s being tackled in the wrong way, ie we should be targetting restrictions, protection etc solely on the vulnerable.
It would then be down to them to make their own decisions.
90% are probably 80+ and already housebound or in care homes, so isolating them should be a priority.
Those of us who are fit and able should be allowed to work and socialise as normal.
We shouldn’t be restricted over what would do us less harm than seasonal flu.
Yes there will be exceptions to the rule and some “fit” people would die.
Such is life! I could have an allergic reaction to a nut or a bee sting, but it doesn’t stop me eating nuts or pottering about in my garden!

Way too simplistic an analogy. You are ring-fencing groups when the reality is there are at-risk people of all ages.

Like Jock, if you were in charge there would be hundreds of thousands of casualties. Economies don't function without confidence, which is impossible if a pandemic is out of control.

[Jock Gooner]

Sid, he’s not playing politics, he’s looking after the people he’s responsible for. Unlike our Govt who are more interested in lining the pockets of their ‘friends’ and donors.

Goonertux , he’s a left wing scouse anti-establishment anarchist.
Who will take any opposing view to govt,
he resisted level 3 restrictions, demanding more cash to help support the area, yet he supports a full national lockdown, which would inflict hardship on areas which have low infection rates and no need to lockdown.
He is just a mouthy northern c u n t!

Wow! Sid, I know you don’t give a shit about the virus but that is just reactionary, right-wing. nonsense. If he’s anti-establishment, and by establishment you mean the current incompetent, lying, self-serving criminals we have in Government at the moment, that’s fine with me. More people need to stand up to them and call-out the corruption and lies we are being fed every day. Hopefully, the fools who fell for the Tory spin at the last election, will now see them for what they really are and the tide will turn towards a more caring, responsible Government.

Not sure about not giving a shit, but I do think it’s being tackled in the wrong way, ie we should be targetting restrictions, protection etc solely on the vulnerable.
It would then be down to them to make their own decisions.
90% are probably 80+ and already housebound or in care homes, so isolating them should be a priority.
Those of us who are fit and able should be allowed to work and socialise as normal.
We shouldn’t be restricted over what would do us less harm than seasonal flu.
Yes there will be exceptions to the rule and some “fit” people would die.
Such is life! I could have an allergic reaction to a nut or a bee sting, but it doesn’t stop me eating nuts or pottering about in my garden!

Way too simplistic an analogy. You are ring-fencing groups when the reality is there are at-risk people of all ages.

Like Jock, if you were in charge there would be hundreds of thousands of casualties. Economies don't function without confidence, which is impossible if a pandemic is out of control.

It's not too simplistic. You are trying to save everybody which never works.....unfortunately there will always be casualties. As I've said before the old dears are out and about getting on with their lives and taking their chances. I love the fact that so many of them are sticking two fingers up to the politicians.

If I was in charge there wouldn't be all the beds blocked in ICUs I can guarantee you that. The graphs yesterday showed that the 85+ age group make up most of the new admissions to hospital. They also take the longest to recover because they are the weakest. There is your decision about Covid right there in a nutshell. Spare me the faux outrage and think long term.

Economies function on cash / credit so a few 85 year olds going a bit before their time will not have any effect on economies.

You might think me extremely callous but I simply look at it as honesty. I take it you saw the surveys a while back which showed that about 70 - 80% of the great British public intended to self isolate if required but then the actual number who did so correctly after a positive test was about 25%. It doesn't matter who is right or wrong on here if that is the reality.

[nut flush gooner]

Goonertux , he’s a left wing scouse anti-establishment anarchist.
Who will take any opposing view to govt,
he resisted level 3 restrictions, demanding more cash to help support the area, yet he supports a full national lockdown, which would inflict hardship on areas which have low infection rates and no need to lockdown.
He is just a mouthy northern c u n t!

Wow! Sid, I know you don’t give a shit about the virus but that is just reactionary, right-wing. nonsense. If he’s anti-establishment, and by establishment you mean the current incompetent, lying, self-serving criminals we have in Government at the moment, that’s fine with me. More people need to stand up to them and call-out the corruption and lies we are being fed every day. Hopefully, the fools who fell for the Tory spin at the last election, will now see them for what they really are and the tide will turn towards a more caring, responsible Government.

Not sure about not giving a shit, but I do think it’s being tackled in the wrong way, ie we should be targetting restrictions, protection etc solely on the vulnerable.
It would then be down to them to make their own decisions.
90% are probably 80+ and already housebound or in care homes, so isolating them should be a priority.
Those of us who are fit and able should be allowed to work and socialise as normal.
We shouldn’t be restricted over what would do us less harm than seasonal flu.
Yes there will be exceptions to the rule and some “fit” people would die.
Such is life! I could have an allergic reaction to a nut or a bee sting, but it doesn’t stop me eating nuts or pottering about in my garden!

Way too simplistic an analogy. You are ring-fencing groups when the reality is there are at-risk people of all ages.

Like Jock, if you were in charge there would be hundreds of thousands of casualties. Economies don't function without confidence, which is impossible if a pandemic is out of control.

It's not too simplistic. You are trying to save everybody which never works.....unfortunately there will always be casualties. As I've said before the old dears are out and about getting on with their lives and taking their chances. I love the fact that so many of them are sticking two fingers up to the politicians.

If I was in charge there wouldn't be all the beds blocked in ICUs I can guarantee you that. The graphs yesterday showed that the 85+ age group make up most of the new admissions to hospital. They also take the longest to recover because they are the weakest. There is your decision about Covid right there in a nutshell. Spare me the faux outrage and think long term.

Economies function on cash / credit so a few 85 year olds going a bit before their time will not have any effect on economies.

You might think me extremely callous but I simply look at it as honesty. I take it you saw the surveys a while back which showed that about 70 - 80% of the great British public intended to self isolate if required but then the actual number who did so correctly after a positive test was about 25%. It doesn't matter who is right or wrong on here if that is the reality.

In the first sentence of your reply, you have quoted an inaccuracy. There are millions of working-age people that are in at-risk groups. Even if they get the virus but don't die there will still be long term health consequences for the individual and the economic impact. Sorry, I can't even be bothered to read the rest, busy today now doing some work......

[Jock Gooner]

Wow! Sid, I know you don’t give a shit about the virus but that is just reactionary, right-wing. nonsense. If he’s anti-establishment, and by establishment you mean the current incompetent, lying, self-serving criminals we have in Government at the moment, that’s fine with me. More people need to stand up to them and call-out the corruption and lies we are being fed every day. Hopefully, the fools who fell for the Tory spin at the last election, will now see them for what they really are and the tide will turn towards a more caring, responsible Government.

Not sure about not giving a shit, but I do think it’s being tackled in the wrong way, ie we should be targetting restrictions, protection etc solely on the vulnerable.
It would then be down to them to make their own decisions.
90% are probably 80+ and already housebound or in care homes, so isolating them should be a priority.
Those of us who are fit and able should be allowed to work and socialise as normal.
We shouldn’t be restricted over what would do us less harm than seasonal flu.
Yes there will be exceptions to the rule and some “fit” people would die.
Such is life! I could have an allergic reaction to a nut or a bee sting, but it doesn’t stop me eating nuts or pottering about in my garden!

Way too simplistic an analogy. You are ring-fencing groups when the reality is there are at-risk people of all ages.

Like Jock, if you were in charge there would be hundreds of thousands of casualties. Economies don't function without confidence, which is impossible if a pandemic is out of control.

It's not too simplistic. You are trying to save everybody which never works.....unfortunately there will always be casualties. As I've said before the old dears are out and about getting on with their lives and taking their chances. I love the fact that so many of them are sticking two fingers up to the politicians.

If I was in charge there wouldn't be all the beds blocked in ICUs I can guarantee you that. The graphs yesterday showed that the 85+ age group make up most of the new admissions to hospital. They also take the longest to recover because they are the weakest. There is your decision about Covid right there in a nutshell. Spare me the faux outrage and think long term.

Economies function on cash / credit so a few 85 year olds going a bit before their time will not have any effect on economies.

You might think me extremely callous but I simply look at it as honesty. I take it you saw the surveys a while back which showed that about 70 - 80% of the great British public intended to self isolate if required but then the actual number who did so correctly after a positive test was about 25%. It doesn't matter who is right or wrong on here if that is the reality.

In the first sentence of your reply, you have quoted an inaccuracy. There are millions of working-age people that are in at-risk groups. Even if they get the virus but don't die there will still be long term health consequences for the individual and the economic impact. Sorry, I can't even be bothered to read the rest, busy today now doing some work......

No inaccuracies stated. Maybe truths you are uncomfortable with.

Good to hear that you are cracking on with your work and popping a few pennies into the Chancellor's pot.

[goonertux]

That would be the Chancellor’s pot that is actually OUR money, that they are happy to spunk away on failed Track and Trace systems (£12 Billion, anyone?) PPE that doesn’t work, and feck knows how many contracts to those that line their pockets. Shameful!

[Jock Gooner]

That would be the Chancellor’s pot that is actually OUR money, that they are happy to spunk away on failed Track and Trace systems (£12 Billion, anyone?) PPE that doesn’t work, and feck knows how many contracts to those that line their pockets. Shameful!

How are you Wolfie ?

#Power to the People

[goonertux]

That would be the Chancellor’s pot that is actually OUR money, that they are happy to spunk away on failed Track and Trace systems (£12 Billion, anyone?) PPE that doesn’t work, and feck knows how many contracts to those that line their pockets. Shameful!

How are you Wolfie ?

#Power to the People

I’m good Jock. Still fighting the cause till we are finally rid of these inbreds!

[Jock Gooner]

That would be the Chancellor’s pot that is actually OUR money, that they are happy to spunk away on failed Track and Trace systems (£12 Billion, anyone?) PPE that doesn’t work, and feck knows how many contracts to those that line their pockets. Shameful!

How are you Wolfie ?

#Power to the People

I’m good Jock. Still fighting the cause till we are finally rid of these inbreds!

Good luck with that mate.

[goonertux]

That would be the Chancellor’s pot that is actually OUR money, that they are happy to spunk away on failed Track and Trace systems (£12 Billion, anyone?) PPE that doesn’t work, and feck knows how many contracts to those that line their pockets. Shameful!

How are you Wolfie ?

#Power to the People

I’m good Jock. Still fighting the cause till we are finally rid of these inbreds!

Good luck with that mate.

Well, something needs to be done. From tiny acorns.....