Clash wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:02 pm
TeeCee flu is a respiratory disease that in extreme cases can kill people (as is pneumonia and asthma) so I cannot see why it is so idiotic, pathetic, etc. to compare it with another respiratory disease that in extreme cases, kills people,
What is so much worse about covid-19 that meant we needed to shut the country down not once but twice? First time round maybe, but we now know that in general covid kills the same groups of people that flu does and that it is seasonal. So what’s the big difference? The number of deaths? The long term effects? The cases spreading?
If we look at the figures with more scrutiny (and acknowledge that taking the unprecedented and ruthless step of kicking sick elderly people out of hospital and putting them into to Care Homes in with the group of people most vulnerable to infection contributed significantly to the death total), then they’re comparable. Some sources still claim flu deaths are outnumbering COVID. It depends how you define it bit if people insist on saying there are 50,000 coronavirus deaths (which is extremely vaguely defined I might add) and that these are not just re-categorised from other causes, then they need to explain why flu disappeared for the first time ever. Because what is not happening is the usual numbers of flu deaths
plus an additional 50,000 Covid-19 deaths.
The long-covid argument carries weight but it is nothing particularly new. It can take up to 6 months to recover from pneumonia. I do accept many that have not died from covid will suffer though … however there are also serious long term effects of heart disease, strokes, cancer, suicide - the numbers of which will increase significantly because of the lockdown measures. Approximately 27 million hospital appointments have been cancelled this year. How many hundreds of thousands will suffer from the consequences of that in the future? Either from lack of treatment or not getting the crucial early diagnosis that would have saved them? And with billions being spent on tests and vaccines for a mostly healthy population, what other areas of health will face huge pay cuts? The money has to come from somewhere!
As for the cases, other respiratory illnesses have never been tested the way COVID has or given the same extensive news coverage so these numbers are not being run parallel to anything that would give them some context. ''There's been a surge in Oldham'' the news blasts out! Yeah there was bound to be when you've just opened a test centre there! And what does cases mean anyway? Most people who test positive are not even sick. The test isn’t reliable enough either. Until recently I knew just one person who tested positive. I now know two … but the second person got their result before he had even got round to doing the test. This sort of thing fills me with no confidence.
We now have the data that tells us that in the main, only a small group of already sick people are at risk from, what history will show, is a not particularly noteworthy flu-type virus. It also tells us all the first lock-down achieved was to delay both deaths and herd immunity. At the beginning long established science was initially followed but then Communist Ferguson came along and with yet another of his absurd predictions and it provoked widespread panic. The the hugely questionable death toll was reported on a daily basis. Questionable because it failed to distinguish the crucial detail of how many died ‘’from’’ the virus rather than just "with" it.
I am not denying the virus exists or suggesting we ignore it completely but I cannot help thinking the reaction to this whole thing is manufactured and that that the real agenda is to take away more of our freedoms and privacy in a way we'll consent to! And all, as it turns out, for one of the least dangerous pandemics mankind ever had to face.
Our compliance might seem reasonable and responsible in the short term … but long term there will be a price to pay (financially, physically, emotionally, spiritually, etc.) and there will be no going back. The more we comply, the further they will go. At the moment it might sound like I am being a paranoid moron but there are certain things that need to be stopped before they go too far or before it’s too late.
What’s next? Regular vaccines (because viruses mutate), digital health certificates, permanent and tougher restrictions on travel, an end to cash transactions? Today the propaganda is even warning about the dangers of domestic pets spreading the virus.
I am not looking forward to the next decade or the future much that’s for sure. And that’s why I posted what I did on Remembrance Sunday. Our generation, by consenting to the freedom of future generations being eroded before they’ve even been born, are doing the exact opposite to what those we wear the poppy for did for us.