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goonersid wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:02 am
Getting my first jab today, Pfizer, I think.
has viagra in it take a cushion with you for the 15 minute wait after :D

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rodders999 wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:02 am
goonersid wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:02 am
Getting my first jab today, Pfizer, I think.
Bet you end up sprouting a massive pair of tits after it :lol:




Send pics on if you do :wink:
Never mind the tits, roddaz. Sid's a nordy. He probably looks like Arlene Foster now! :shock:

:puke:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:57 pm
rodders999 wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:02 am
goonersid wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:02 am
Getting my first jab today, Pfizer, I think.
Bet you end up sprouting a massive pair of tits after it :lol:




Send pics on if you do :wink:
Never mind the tits, roddaz. Sid's a nordy. He probably looks like Arlene Foster now! :shock:

:puke:
Sorted, Oxford jab.
And FYI, I'm more like a young Liam Neeson :box:
But with big man boobs, just like Arlene Foster :lol:

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goonersid wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:13 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:57 pm
rodders999 wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:02 am
goonersid wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:02 am
Getting my first jab today, Pfizer, I think.
Bet you end up sprouting a massive pair of tits after it :lol:




Send pics on if you do :wink:
Never mind the tits, roddaz. Sid's a nordy. He probably looks like Arlene Foster now! :shock:

:puke:
Sorted, Oxford jab.
And FYI, I'm more like a young Liam Neeson :box:
But with big man boobs, just like Arlene Foster :lol:
I would. :shock:

:wink:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:26 am
goonersid wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:13 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:57 pm
rodders999 wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:02 am
goonersid wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:02 am
Getting my first jab today, Pfizer, I think.
Bet you end up sprouting a massive pair of tits after it :lol:




Send pics on if you do :wink:
Never mind the tits, roddaz. Sid's a nordy. He probably looks like Arlene Foster now! :shock:

:puke:
Sorted, Oxford jab.
And FYI, I'm more like a young Liam Neeson :box:
But with big man boobs, just like Arlene Foster :lol:
I would. :shock:

:wink:
But would Sid let you!??? :rubchin: :D :wink:

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This will either Totally shock you or you will simply shrug the shoulders and think - Yeah! thought so..


A BBC hidden Camera Report into COVID Testing....


https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... esting-lab


Makes a laughing stock of the whole testing thing... :?

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On 18th January there were 39,249 people in the UK in hospital being treated for COVID-19

Yesterday it was 2,862 of which only 406 were only ventilators. So that's 0.004%, and 0.0006% of the population respectively

We've had between 30% and 50% of our staff at work back in the workplace on a socially distanced basis since the end of Feb. Not one single positive case reported

Still, must be cautious. Can't sit in a restaurant 2m away from the nearest person.

Get stuff moving FFS.

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:54 am
On 18th January there were 39,249 people in the UK in hospital being treated for COVID-19

Yesterday it was 2,862 of which only 406 were only ventilators. So that's 0.004%, and 0.0006% of the population respectively

We've had between 30% and 50% of our staff at work back in the workplace on a socially distanced basis since the end of Feb. Not one single positive case reported

Still, must be cautious. Can't sit in a restaurant 2m away from the nearest person.

Get stuff moving FFS.
Surely the last year has shown the need to be cautious at this stage.
Only way things can open up more is if the borders are made tighter. Too many dangerous variants out there.

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:59 am
SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:54 am
On 18th January there were 39,249 people in the UK in hospital being treated for COVID-19

Yesterday it was 2,862 of which only 406 were only ventilators. So that's 0.004%, and 0.0006% of the population respectively

We've had between 30% and 50% of our staff at work back in the workplace on a socially distanced basis since the end of Feb. Not one single positive case reported

Still, must be cautious. Can't sit in a restaurant 2m away from the nearest person.

Get stuff moving FFS.
Surely the last year has shown the need to be cautious at this stage.
Only way things can open up more is if the borders are made tighter. Too many dangerous variants out there.
Last year we hadn't vaccinated 32m people and didn't have mass testing available to detect early cases.....nor did we have any 'red' countries or any semblance of controlling our borders

If the variants scare you so much read this

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... cases-data

Less than 1,000 detected cases of non-UK originated variants, and nothing to suggest that we can't isolate those people or that the vaccines aren't effective in preventing them leading to hospitalisations and deaths

If the current run on deaths continue in this country it will be on par with flu or pneumonia. Time to open up and restore life

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Last year we hadn't vaccinated 32m people " ONCE "

it's a 2 dose programme and most of those 32 miilion are still only half way through it.
I admit that I am old , in my 70's , but have only had 1 jab but the information given states clearly that the full effect of the 2 vaccines only kicks in 2 to 3 weeks after the second jab .
This means that providing that supplies are not held up by political machinations , I should be able to get out and about nearer to the end of May.

It's all well and good the government trumpeting that their vaccination policy is going at a rate of knots , but it will slow down when the second jab really kicks in and they have not given enough information about immunisation for the general people.

Now the anti vaccine campaigns are focussing on the herd immunity argument , looking for reasons to get out without any vaccination and push forward the argument that as the elderly are now protected they can all get out down the pub .

That will not be until June , which is strangely the date set for fully reopening . JUNE 21st.

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we also dont know how long these vaccines last for so next winter for example is a complete unknown at the moment.
coronaviruses also survive by mutating. that's what they are good at it. In Brazil the variant there is so strong it is currently killing 25,000 people a week.

there seems to be an increasing view in this country that this is all over - it is far from being all over, although I am fairly confident that we should return to some kind of normality this summer here in the UK. i certainly wouldn't be rushing abroad any time soon though.

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:04 pm
we also dont know how long these vaccines last for so next winter for example is a complete unknown at the moment.
coronaviruses also survive by mutating. that's what they are good at it. In Brazil the variant there is so strong it is currently killing 25,000 people a week.

there seems to be an increasing view in this country that this is all over - it is far from being all over, although I am fairly confident that we should return to some kind of normality this summer here in the UK. i certainly wouldn't be rushing abroad any time soon though.
Nobody thinks its all over. What we know is that the top 9 categories of risk account for c.99% of the deaths and all of them would have received the first jab (which gives 80%+ effectiveness) by mid-April, and virtually all the top vulnerables have had two jabs by now. All of the scientists and pharma companies have confirmed that the vaccine can be adjusted for new variants in a matter of weeks, as is the case with the normal flu jab. It has already been confirmed that there will be booster vaccines in the autumn for the most vulnerable. In the UK we've supposedly 'over ordered' tens of millions of jabs

1 in 2 of us sadly will have cancer at some point in our lives. Poor diet, drinking, smoking and other lifestyle factors contribute to that and none of them are banned, nor should they be.

If we're going to live with this virus for years/ever, you can't stop people living their lives and kill every freedom and every business. FFS - despite us being shit, I'd like to get back in a football stadium some time soon. If that means I'll have a risk of contracting the virus, I'll live with it in the way I live with taking a risk when I drive my car, go on an aeroplane, eat some shit food or drink too much. I'm not dismissing the severity of the virus, but this route out of lockdown can't be reversed now. How many youngsters will it kill through suicide and depression when they can't get a job, find themselves riddled with debt and have no social freedoms at all. My wife works in youth services for the local council and the amount of child abuse and self harming is rocketing - we can't protect the 1% forever just like we can't against flu, pneumonia etc until there is a total cure for any of those illnesses

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:59 am
SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:54 am
On 18th January there were 39,249 people in the UK in hospital being treated for COVID-19

Yesterday it was 2,862 of which only 406 were only ventilators. So that's 0.004%, and 0.0006% of the population respectively

We've had between 30% and 50% of our staff at work back in the workplace on a socially distanced basis since the end of Feb. Not one single positive case reported

Still, must be cautious. Can't sit in a restaurant 2m away from the nearest person.

Get stuff moving FFS.
Surely the last year has shown the need to be cautious at this stage.
Only way things can open up more is if the borders are made tighter. Too many dangerous variants out there.
This^^^

Since the first lockdown the government in its wisdom(NOT!) have still allowed people (Families) to come into the UK on The Family (Re)Union Licence,
so if a person has been in the UK for 2 years (or more) they can apply for their family to join them, trouble is the family members cannot afford the Hotel Isolation costs, so the Uk tax Payers must foot the bill.
The the person (usually) the husband/father most often lives in a shared house with One Bedroom to himself or in a Bedsit, so by Law the Local Authority have a duty to provide the family (now re-united via the Family Re-Union Licence) with suitable housing, so the family cannot stay/live in the one Bedroom or the Bedsit - and it isn't unusual for their to be one or more Wives plus 2 - 6 children; sometimes also the Mother-In-Law...

The number of Homeless is already at un-sustainable levels, especially now that it is illegal for someone to live on the streets during the Pandemic/ Lock-down, this has been further exacerbated by the 80% increase in (mostly) Women fleeing DA/DV Domestic Abuse/Violence) - with an average of 1.5 children. The perpetrator (again under current law because of the Pandemic) cannot be re-moved or evicted from the property, so the local authority has to find suitable accommodation for the victim/s.

Before the Pandemic the Housing Shortage for Social Housing and decent PRS Dwellings was already out of control and now it has spiralled beyond anything seen since WW2.

The Government should have put a hold on Re-union Licence applications until the lock-down measures were completely lifted, because all it has done is made it so much worse for those already in the Uk trying to find safe accommodation.

Boris & Co are Useless Cunnts who do not have the slightest clue what is happening in their own country.

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quote What we know is that the top 9 categories of risk account for c.99% of the deaths and all of them would have received the first jab (which gives 80%+ effectiveness) by mid-April, unquote


One dose of a COVID-19 vaccine gives 67% protection after three weeks, a leading epidemiologist has said.

Professor Tim Spector of King's College London, who runs the ZOE COVID-19 surveillance app, said data collected from 50,000 users vaccinated with either the Pfizer or Oxford/AstraZeneca jab showed one dose gave 46% protection after two weeks, rising to 67% after three to six weeks.

The app uses information submitted by more than four million users across the world to predict and track coronavirus infections across the UK and other countries.

"We have now got about a third of a million people who have logged their first dose of the vaccine with us on the ZOE app," Prof Spector told Sky's Sophy Ridge on Sunday

Just saying.

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A11M11 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:26 pm
quote What we know is that the top 9 categories of risk account for c.99% of the deaths and all of them would have received the first jab (which gives 80%+ effectiveness) by mid-April, unquote


One dose of a COVID-19 vaccine gives 67% protection after three weeks, a leading epidemiologist has said.

Professor Tim Spector of King's College London, who runs the ZOE COVID-19 surveillance app, said data collected from 50,000 users vaccinated with either the Pfizer or Oxford/AstraZeneca jab showed one dose gave 46% protection after two weeks, rising to 67% after three to six weeks.

The app uses information submitted by more than four million users across the world to predict and track coronavirus infections across the UK and other countries.

"We have now got about a third of a million people who have logged their first dose of the vaccine with us on the ZOE app," Prof Spector told Sky's Sophy Ridge on Sunday

Just saying.
Or......directly from PHE's report into vaccine effectiveness

"Hospitalisation rates were around 15% in unvaccinated
individuals in both populations. Among those who had had their first dose at least 14 days
previously, hospitalisation rates were 9% in those who had received the Pfizer vaccine and 8%
in those who had received AstraZeneca. The survival analysis showed 42% (Pfizer) and 35%
(AstraZeneca) reductions in the risk of hospitalisation among those who had been vaccinated
but became symptomatic, compared with those who had not although confidence intervals
around these estimates were broad and overlapping. Combined with the reduced risk of
becoming a case (Section 3) this is consistent with vaccine effectiveness against hospitalisation
of around 80%.
"

Remember there is a double impact - one you are less likely to contract the virus to start with, secondly if you do contract it you are less likely to be hospitalised. By the way - the 80% effectiveness against hospitalisation that they talk about is for the age group 80+

Just saying :wink:

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