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91% of the cases in this country now confirmed as the Indian (sorry Delta :banghead: ) variant

What more evidence is needed of the government's bungled border control attempts

Do go to Portugal, don't go to Portugal, don't let anyone leave the country, but allow everyone in India (the world's most infected country at the time) to have 10 day's notice to flood back to the UK with no monitored quarantine.

Absolute fuck up and now they're expected to delay 'freedom day' for up to a month killing off most of the hospitality sector, and burdening generations to come with a war like debt mountain

Fucking c.unts - and all done to avoid allegations of racism or stigma being attached to the 'Indian variant'

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:44 am
91% of the cases in this country now confirmed as the Indian (sorry Delta :banghead: ) variant

What more evidence is needed of the government's bungled border control attempts

Do go to Portugal, don't go to Portugal, don't let anyone leave the country, but allow everyone in India (the world's most infected country at the time) to have 10 day's notice to flood back to the UK with no monitored quarantine.

Absolute fuck up and now they're expected to delay 'freedom day' for up to a month killing off most of the hospitality sector, and burdening generations to come with a war like debt mountain

Fucking c.unts - and all done to avoid allegations of racism or stigma being attached to the 'Indian variant'
I don’t think it was a racism problem Steve. Boris was due to go to India to discuss a possible trade deal with their PM.

He was holding back on putting India on the red list for this reason. Of course he ended up not going to India when the cases/deaths exploded over there. By then the seeds had been sowed for cases to rise over here.

I don’t think there would be a huge rise in deaths in the short term if we opened on the 21st, but can see the caution with Boris, he's shitting himself that the Indian variant could mutate to another version where the efficacy of the vaccines is either lower or not effective at all. This would pan out over a number of months, and if deaths started rising Boris would start feeling the heat. Of course all of this is his own doing.

The rationale as far as I can see it is to get as many people vaccinated with 2nd doses to allow herd immunity to kick in. Keeping cases low is key.

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I know that I have criticised Boris Johnson probably more than most on here over the past few years, but really on this I just can't see how anyone can come to any other conclusion.

He was the only person in the country who had the power to shut the borders with India. He failed to do so.
The Indian variant has now taken off here and so we are unable to remove restrictions.

Incredibly, despite having a huge head start on the other European countries in terms of the vaccinations rollout this is now going to be wasted and other European countries will open up quicker than us. Embarrassing, not to mention the huge cost to the economy.

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:10 am
I know that I have criticised Boris Johnson probably more than most on here over the past few years, but really on this I just can't see how anyone can come to any other conclusion.

He was the only person in the country who had the power to shut the borders with India. He failed to do so.
The Indian variant has now taken off here and so we are unable to remove restrictions.

Incredibly, despite having a huge head start on the other European countries in terms of the vaccinations rollout this is now going to be wasted and other European countries will open up quicker than us. Embarrassing, not to mention the huge cost to the economy.
Not true Rob. There is huge pent up demand in the UK economy. Take a look at the US, we are a few months behind.

https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/uk-ec ... um=FINNEWS

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"Freedom Day" is such an appallingly Generation W term. Yes the "W" stands for "Wànker".

Fucking snowflakes asked to stay indoors a bit and you'd swear they survived the Holocaust. Get a fucking grip you entitled snowflake cùnts. :roll:

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spot on db, in uk at least, things seem pretty much back to normal in any town centre etc. apart from mass gatherings etc what freedoms are still being denied apart from overseas travel, which wont change until the world gets itself in order.

as for the indian variant, where is it prevalent and spreading from, yes all of those communities who are anti vacc and generally dont seem to give a shit, but no one will say anything for fear of being cancelled due to perceived racism or whatever the term is now.

although bojo should have closed borders asap, in the grand scheme of things i doubt it will have made much difference as its inevitable that this variant would have come in eventually and spread, just a matter of sooner or later, and it will no doubt spread everywhere until a more virulent mutation comes along and out competes it.

this will keep happening with new variants until the rest of the world vaccinates to high levels, or we close the borders to these unvaccinated countries indefinitely, until they do vaccinate. neither of which will happen in short/medium term sadly. we just have to hope that it doesn't mutate to a form that negates the impact of vaccines to a harmful extent. other than completely stop overseas travel which wont happen for all manner of political and economic reasons we can just sit here and hope for the best and do our best to minimize the spread, somehting that a lot of folk have stopped doing..no one seems to sanitise in shops and mask wearing is definitely down fro what i see as is respect for social distancing.

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