SteveO 35 wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:16 pm
Retro Gunner wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:32 pm
No need to comment on the game, it's all been said on here already.
Bottom line, the club is fucked. This has been building since the stadium move and rapidly over the last 10 years. It's Wenger's legacy and while most of us knew that it would take a minimum of 3 years to get on track after Il Duce left, it's going to get worse and very quickly so, with the wrong managers at the helm.
I've nothing against Arteta, but this was not the job for a novice and it has the warning signs of something that is beginning to run out of control. Aside from the cup semi and final, I was underwhelmed by his team's performances last season, but at least there appeared to be a unity amongst the squad and some belief that the players were behind his project. I know get the feeling that they're as lost as they were under Wenger and Emery.
One or two on here saying that it's an over-reaction to one game, but no one on here is basing their thoughts on yesterday's game alone. This season has been dire and the stats prove it. A few of us have been saying since the latter days of Wenger that the idea of having to fight relegation isn't off the cards and at the moment, if no changes are made, it's very much on the cards....if not this season (looks like some utter dross down the bottom), then next.
The minute that Stan Kroenke became the majority shareholder and employed his son and a bunch of c.unts like Gazidis we were fucked. The chance to do something brave came in 2014 after our Dear Leader broke his 9 year trophy drought with the FA Cup, and a similar chance came up when his next contract expired. It was plain to see that not only had Maureen long since overtaken his outdated ideology, but a number of up and coming managers were doing the same thing. Instead, the prick at the helm kept him on and let him turn us into a Europa League club, inexplicably letting the likes of the scum overtake us despite our obvious financial advantage.
He then chose to appoint Emery - a decent coach (and certainly far superior to the boy in men's clothing at the moment) but not the boldest and best option available to the club at the time. Despite my feelings about punting Dick, that gave rise to an opportunity to make a statement - get an Ancelotti or Allegri to repair the decade of damage. We chose to appoint a novice, defying what would happen in any other industry. Can you imagine one of the FTSE's top companies falling behind their competition and deciding to appoint a 37 year old CEO that had never been a number 1 at another company - unthinkable. Arteta has had six younger managers before him in the entire PL history and they all got the punt within two seasons. It can't, won't and never was going to work
So what happens next? If we stick with this manager for the rest of this season we are going to end up in the bottom half of the table and truly unable to attract any new talent worthy of the name. We won't have European football of any description for the first time in how many years? Must be 30 odd years. If we punt him, then the same mug who has got these appointments wrong before will probably phone dear old Arsene for advice - a man 10 years out of date before he left - and he will recommend some fancy dan new manager from the depths of Ligue 1 to bring back the tippy tappy, pretty but spineless football that his worshippers lapped up for so long
Basically until a new owner rescues us from the clutches of this wig wearing c.unt we are absolutely, 100% fucked and heading for the Championship
Agree mate, I've been saying this for years now. As much as I wanted Wenger gone (since 2007), Kroenke became the real problem at the club. Wenger was only ever as good as the guy keeping him in place and the old fraud was never going to walk away, so it was down to Kroenke to sack him long before he did. Unfortunately, he did all that was required....a CL place, with enough money rolling in and no ambitions to spend big and truly compete. The rot set in and became irreversible, ending up with where we are now.
When we were organising the Wenger Out campaign, most of you will remember that at the end of that season, the club renewed his contract. I argued with the other organisers that for the next season, we had to train our guns on Kroenke and forget Wenger, because it was clear that the fans were never going to turn on Wenger en masse, especially inside the stadium, where it really mattered. They had, however, started to sing the "Stanley Kroenke get out of our club" song in the stadium. I thought that if we really targeted Kroenke, then he'd be more inclined to sack Wenger to relieve the pressure on him, but above all, that he was ultimately the problem, regardless of who the manager was. I lost the argument, as the majority still wanted to target Wenger.
We're no more than an investment vehicle for Stan and he'll never put a single coin of his own money in to bankroll the club. He has no footballing ambition, beyond CL qualification and the revenue it generates and as he's told us, he's not interested in trophies. It's hard to imagine a worse situation, a club that ought to be competing at the top level, being paralysed by the wrong, yet immovable, owner.
It's all academic now, because it's hard to see us ever being rid of the parasite, unless his investment begins to seriously lose money and that probably means relegation. Catch 22 for the supporters I fear.