Manurine stained Y fronts H Sat 30th Jan KO 1730

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Some of the bitching on here is petty and quite frankly pathetic.
Stevo! On Bellerin being made captain, it's only whilst Auba is out, most likely given the role because he is probably the longest serving player. A decision most managers would make (managers capable of making their own decisions that is or maybe there wasn't time to hold a vote.)
Augie! On Martinelli substitution, he'd hardly had a kick and had possibly picked up a knock.
I do admit however that Wilian has been a huge disappointment, often a match winner for the chavs, it hasn't happened for him, although he was slightly better last nite
Redarmy! On Guendopey, not hanging around because the inferior Xhaka was being picked ahead of him?
I think you'll find he was chased, because he thought he could behave like a spoilt brat under Arteta, as he had under Emery!
Also whilst I'm no fan of Xhaka, I'd argue he contributes more than the non scoring, non tackling totally ineffectual Guendopey!
Last nite was yet another encouraging performance particularly given our absentees, a solid defensive display and Leno regaining his form with every game.

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Just had a butchers at previous seasons and this is the 3rd season in a row that we've taken 4points from 6 against these arseholes..1-0 away 0-0 home this season..1-1 away and 2-0 home last season and 2-2 away and 2-0 home the season before..In le bulbeyes last season they dicked us up the fartbox twice..

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Leno’s shit mate, should never have sold Martinelli :wink:

https://twitter.com/arsenal/status/1355 ... 05216?s=21

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I have a question ......... does anyone believe that we practice set pieces in training or have set piece instructions before games ??

In the past few games we have had several direct free kicks in scorable rangeand we have seen pepe, laca, xhaka, luiz and last night we added cedric to the list of players that have taken them - how the fcuk does that happen ?? :? Do we not have designated free kick takers (depending if it is for left footer or right footer) ? Everytime we get a free kick near the opposition goals half the team seemed to be around the ball discussing who would take it (rock paper scissors ?), and you would then that there is some sort of club meeting going on :roll: I have been involved in teams as a player and as a manager and your set piece takers are ALWAYS decided beforehand - we look shambolic and amateur when you see half the team gathered around the ball chatting about whose turn it is :oops: :oops:

Again, given pep's cone boys reputation as a coach, wouldnt you think that this would be well organised in advance ?

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goonersid wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:14 am
Some of the bitching on here is petty and quite frankly pathetic.
Stevo! On Bellerin being made captain, it's only whilst Auba is out, most likely given the role because he is probably the longest serving player. A decision most managers would make (managers capable of making their own decisions that is or maybe there wasn't time to hold a vote.)
Augie! On Martinelli substitution, he'd hardly had a kick and had possibly picked up a knock.
I do admit however that Wilian has been a huge disappointment, often a match winner for the chavs, it hasn't happened for him, although he was slightly better last nite
Redarmy! On Guendopey, not hanging around because the inferior Xhaka was being picked ahead of him?
I think you'll find he was chased, because he thought he could behave like a spoilt brat under Arteta, as he had under Emery!
Also whilst I'm no fan of Xhaka, I'd argue he contributes more than the non scoring, non tackling totally ineffectual Guendopey!
Last nite was yet another encouraging performance particularly given our absentees, a solid defensive display and Leno regaining his form with every game.
I thought my comments about yesterday's performance were pretty balanced !

However, I can't agree about Bellerin. Just handing the armband to the most experienced player is a cop out. On that basis Adams and Vieira would never have been captains! As bad as holding a vote

Bellend has been our worst player - not just my words but pretty much every bugger on here! Why not Holding or Luiz, who is acting much more like a captain

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augie wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:30 am
I have a question ......... does anyone believe that we practice set pieces in training or have set piece instructions before games ??

In the past few games we have had several direct free kicks in scorable rangeand we have seen pepe, laca, xhaka, luiz and last night we added cedric to the list of players that have taken them - how the fcuk does that happen ?? :? Do we not have designated free kick takers (depending if it is for left footer or right footer) ? Everytime we get a free kick near the opposition goals half the team seemed to be around the ball discussing who would take it (rock paper scissors ?), and you would then that there is some sort of club meeting going on :roll: I have been involved in teams as a player and as a manager and your set piece takers are ALWAYS decided beforehand - we look shambolic and amateur when you see half the team gathered around the ball chatting about whose turn it is :oops: :oops:

Again, given pep's cone boys reputation as a coach, wouldnt you think that this would be well organised in advance ?
We got Andreas Georgson from Brentford a few months back. Supposedly a set piece specialist. I don't know if he's just a defensive coach or works on attacking set pieces too.

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Clummo99 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:48 am
augie wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:30 am
I have a question ......... does anyone believe that we practice set pieces in training or have set piece instructions before games ??

In the past few games we have had several direct free kicks in scorable rangeand we have seen pepe, laca, xhaka, luiz and last night we added cedric to the list of players that have taken them - how the fcuk does that happen ?? :? Do we not have designated free kick takers (depending if it is for left footer or right footer) ? Everytime we get a free kick near the opposition goals half the team seemed to be around the ball discussing who would take it (rock paper scissors ?), and you would then that there is some sort of club meeting going on :roll: I have been involved in teams as a player and as a manager and your set piece takers are ALWAYS decided beforehand - we look shambolic and amateur when you see half the team gathered around the ball chatting about whose turn it is :oops: :oops:

Again, given pep's cone boys reputation as a coach, wouldnt you think that this would be well organised in advance ?
We got Andreas Georgson from Brentford a few months back. Supposedly a set piece specialist. I don't know if he's just a defensive coach or works on attacking set pieces too.
To be honest there were a couple of set plays yesterday that looked like they'd been well thought through. One in the first half where Luiz peeled off to the far post and nodded it back across (just evaded Laca from memory), looked promising. The problem we have is that you can work on them all week but if someone (usually Pepe) scuffs the first ball, it undoes all the good work.

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:57 am
Clummo99 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:48 am
augie wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:30 am
I have a question ......... does anyone believe that we practice set pieces in training or have set piece instructions before games ??

In the past few games we have had several direct free kicks in scorable rangeand we have seen pepe, laca, xhaka, luiz and last night we added cedric to the list of players that have taken them - how the fcuk does that happen ?? :? Do we not have designated free kick takers (depending if it is for left footer or right footer) ? Everytime we get a free kick near the opposition goals half the team seemed to be around the ball discussing who would take it (rock paper scissors ?), and you would then that there is some sort of club meeting going on :roll: I have been involved in teams as a player and as a manager and your set piece takers are ALWAYS decided beforehand - we look shambolic and amateur when you see half the team gathered around the ball chatting about whose turn it is :oops: :oops:

Again, given pep's cone boys reputation as a coach, wouldnt you think that this would be well organised in advance ?
We got Andreas Georgson from Brentford a few months back. Supposedly a set piece specialist. I don't know if he's just a defensive coach or works on attacking set pieces too.
To be honest there were a couple of set plays yesterday that looked like they'd been well thought through. One in the first half where Luiz peeled off to the far post and nodded it back across (just evaded Laca from memory), looked promising. The problem we have is that you can work on them all week but if someone (usually Pepe) scuffs the first ball, it undoes all the good work.
With Pepe's inability to miss the first man 9 times out of 10 maybe we should work on the old Bould/Adams near post flick on and bring that back into play.

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Clummo99 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:02 pm
SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:57 am
Clummo99 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:48 am
augie wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:30 am
I have a question ......... does anyone believe that we practice set pieces in training or have set piece instructions before games ??

In the past few games we have had several direct free kicks in scorable rangeand we have seen pepe, laca, xhaka, luiz and last night we added cedric to the list of players that have taken them - how the fcuk does that happen ?? :? Do we not have designated free kick takers (depending if it is for left footer or right footer) ? Everytime we get a free kick near the opposition goals half the team seemed to be around the ball discussing who would take it (rock paper scissors ?), and you would then that there is some sort of club meeting going on :roll: I have been involved in teams as a player and as a manager and your set piece takers are ALWAYS decided beforehand - we look shambolic and amateur when you see half the team gathered around the ball chatting about whose turn it is :oops: :oops:

Again, given pep's cone boys reputation as a coach, wouldnt you think that this would be well organised in advance ?
We got Andreas Georgson from Brentford a few months back. Supposedly a set piece specialist. I don't know if he's just a defensive coach or works on attacking set pieces too.
To be honest there were a couple of set plays yesterday that looked like they'd been well thought through. One in the first half where Luiz peeled off to the far post and nodded it back across (just evaded Laca from memory), looked promising. The problem we have is that you can work on them all week but if someone (usually Pepe) scuffs the first ball, it undoes all the good work.
With Pepe's inability to miss the first man 9 times out of 10 maybe we should work on the old Bould/Adams near post flick on and bring that back into play.
I don't why that corner routine isn't used more often. Its not just us from corners either. I often watch teams other failing to clear the first man or just picking out the keeper

Attackers seem to spend more time crowding out the keeper these days and most of the time the ref gives a free kick anyway. If you've got your best header of the ball at the near post, I actually think its more of a distraction for the defenders and allows a free path for someone running in behind

Used to bloody love that routine with Bould and Adams!

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:06 pm
Clummo99 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:02 pm
SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:57 am
Clummo99 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:48 am
augie wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:30 am
I have a question ......... does anyone believe that we practice set pieces in training or have set piece instructions before games ??

In the past few games we have had several direct free kicks in scorable rangeand we have seen pepe, laca, xhaka, luiz and last night we added cedric to the list of players that have taken them - how the fcuk does that happen ?? :? Do we not have designated free kick takers (depending if it is for left footer or right footer) ? Everytime we get a free kick near the opposition goals half the team seemed to be around the ball discussing who would take it (rock paper scissors ?), and you would then that there is some sort of club meeting going on :roll: I have been involved in teams as a player and as a manager and your set piece takers are ALWAYS decided beforehand - we look shambolic and amateur when you see half the team gathered around the ball chatting about whose turn it is :oops: :oops:

Again, given pep's cone boys reputation as a coach, wouldnt you think that this would be well organised in advance ?
We got Andreas Georgson from Brentford a few months back. Supposedly a set piece specialist. I don't know if he's just a defensive coach or works on attacking set pieces too.
To be honest there were a couple of set plays yesterday that looked like they'd been well thought through. One in the first half where Luiz peeled off to the far post and nodded it back across (just evaded Laca from memory), looked promising. The problem we have is that you can work on them all week but if someone (usually Pepe) scuffs the first ball, it undoes all the good work.
With Pepe's inability to miss the first man 9 times out of 10 maybe we should work on the old Bould/Adams near post flick on and bring that back into play.
I don't why that corner routine isn't used more often. Its not just us from corners either. I often watch teams other failing to clear the first man or just picking out the keeper

Attackers seem to spend more time crowding out the keeper these days and most of the time the ref gives a free kick anyway. If you've got your best header of the ball at the near post, I actually think its more of a distraction for the defenders and allows a free path for someone running in behind

Used to bloody love that routine with Bould and Adams!
Particularly pertinent in the current game where most teams set up zonal for corners. Gone are the days when you always put your biggest lad marking their biggest. The amount of mismatches you see at corners is ridiculous.

But what do I know. I haven't been in the game 30 years. :lol:

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Anyway my point was about direct free kicks, not corners or indirect free kicks - I agree that indirect plans look rehearsed

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:37 am
goonersid wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:14 am
Some of the bitching on here is petty and quite frankly pathetic.
Stevo! On Bellerin being made captain, it's only whilst Auba is out, most likely given the role because he is probably the longest serving player. A decision most managers would make (managers capable of making their own decisions that is or maybe there wasn't time to hold a vote.)
Augie! On Martinelli substitution, he'd hardly had a kick and had possibly picked up a knock.
I do admit however that Wilian has been a huge disappointment, often a match winner for the chavs, it hasn't happened for him, although he was slightly better last nite
Redarmy! On Guendopey, not hanging around because the inferior Xhaka was being picked ahead of him?
I think you'll find he was chased, because he thought he could behave like a spoilt brat under Arteta, as he had under Emery!
Also whilst I'm no fan of Xhaka, I'd argue he contributes more than the non scoring, non tackling totally ineffectual Guendopey!
Last nite was yet another encouraging performance particularly given our absentees, a solid defensive display and Leno regaining his form with every game.
I thought my comments about yesterday's performance were pretty balanced !

However, I can't agree about Bellerin. Just handing the armband to the most experienced player is a cop out. On that basis Adams and Vieira would never have been captains! As bad as holding a vote

Bellend has been our worst player - not just my words but pretty much every bugger on here! Why not Holding or Luiz, who is acting much more like a captain
Adams and Vieira were full time captains and that's my point, Bellerin is a temporary captain and his appointment would be "normal practice" at most clubs, overlooking him would be viewed as a snub and create controversy which we dont need. A cop out maybe but one which makes sense. Hardly comparable with bottling choosing a permanent captain.

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goonersid wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:25 pm
SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:37 am
goonersid wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:14 am
Some of the bitching on here is petty and quite frankly pathetic.
Stevo! On Bellerin being made captain, it's only whilst Auba is out, most likely given the role because he is probably the longest serving player. A decision most managers would make (managers capable of making their own decisions that is or maybe there wasn't time to hold a vote.)
Augie! On Martinelli substitution, he'd hardly had a kick and had possibly picked up a knock.
I do admit however that Wilian has been a huge disappointment, often a match winner for the chavs, it hasn't happened for him, although he was slightly better last nite
Redarmy! On Guendopey, not hanging around because the inferior Xhaka was being picked ahead of him?
I think you'll find he was chased, because he thought he could behave like a spoilt brat under Arteta, as he had under Emery!
Also whilst I'm no fan of Xhaka, I'd argue he contributes more than the non scoring, non tackling totally ineffectual Guendopey!
Last nite was yet another encouraging performance particularly given our absentees, a solid defensive display and Leno regaining his form with every game.
I thought my comments about yesterday's performance were pretty balanced !

However, I can't agree about Bellerin. Just handing the armband to the most experienced player is a cop out. On that basis Adams and Vieira would never have been captains! As bad as holding a vote

Bellend has been our worst player - not just my words but pretty much every bugger on here! Why not Holding or Luiz, who is acting much more like a captain
Adams and Vieira were full time captains and that's my point, Bellerin is a temporary captain and his appointment would be "normal practice" at most clubs, overlooking him would be viewed as a snub and create controversy which we dont need. A cop out maybe but one which makes sense. Hardly comparable with bottling choosing a permanent captain.
You'll never find me defending the captaincy vote mate, so not sure why you keep mentioning it. I've said tons of times it was his single worst decision as manager and ended up with that fucking prick taking the armband.

Luiz as captain with his experience would hardly cause a stir, and if it did then the sooner Bellend is fucked off the better, Why raise the bloke's profile any more?

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Temporary captains are just that, temporary. You need a player with the ability to be calm and be able to talk to the officials etc. Majority of the time you would pick an experienced player regardless unless you have an exceptional young player in the team. His job is there just for the game and not all the off field duties that come with it.

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I'm less bothered about Bellend being involved in the coin toss and more concerned about the fact that it reiterates the fact that he's a prominent part of the manager's plans.

We had one game without the useless c.unt when Cedric was RB and Tierney was LB and we looked like a team reborn in that second half against Newcastle.

Just can't wait to see the end of him in an Arsenal shirt. Every bit as bad as Willian and Xhaka in my opinion

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