THE WENGER THREAD

[armchair]

He got some wierd vicarious gratifacation for Man U winning the prem after he gifted RVP to them.
Almost like the win was down to him fs. What a complete bluffer.

[DB10GOONER]

I've already laid my cards on the table and stated that I am finished with the club if this w*nker gets a new contract My two sons were brought up as Gooners and were told in no uncertain terms that they had no choice in the matter - I announced to them a fortnight ago that if the arrogant c.unt gets a new contract then they will be free to support another club if they so wish, because I refuse to force them to support a club whose only ambition is financial profits and who continually shits on its fans and lets a senile old c.unt ruin the club in the process

Everyone to their own but that's too far for me. I'm at the most apathetic I've ever been towards the club at the moment and I will be devastated if (when) Wenger gets a new contract. But The Arsenal are in my blood too long now. I look on them as a gift from my old man who made me a Gooner as a kid - something I passed on to my son. When my dad died we placed an Arsenal tie pin on him in his coffin. He would have loved that. My mom will phone and ask how The Arsenal did. The woman has zero interest in football but her husband and 4 sons are all Gooners.

It's not something I can switch off. I've spent thousands and thousands supporting us, gave up so much time, lost girlfriends over it. Being a Gooner has been a part of my life for over 40 years now. I have some bad memories sure, but also so many fantastic memories of cup final piss ups, great games, great footy trips with the lads, celebrating things like Anfield 89 and The Invincibles. Being a fan is more than just what is currently happening at the club.

Things change. People come, people go. Wenger will leave at some point. So whilst I won't attend games until he's gone I'll still watch them on TV etc and will encourage my son to do the same. And if my boy really wants to go to a game I'll bring him and try and take my enjoyment from seeing him enjoy the game.

So I'll wait. That's all I can do. Try and wait Wenger out. And then hopefully I'll enjoy watching and supporting us again.

[DB10GOONER]

He got some wierd vicarious gratifacation for Man U winning the prem after he gifted RVP to them.
Almost like the win was down to him fs. What a complete bluffer.

Christ, remember that? It was bizarre, but so typical of latter day Wenger.

[augie]

I've already laid my cards on the table and stated that I am finished with the club if this w*nker gets a new contract My two sons were brought up as Gooners and were told in no uncertain terms that they had no choice in the matter - I announced to them a fortnight ago that if the arrogant c.unt gets a new contract then they will be free to support another club if they so wish, because I refuse to force them to support a club whose only ambition is financial profits and who continually shits on its fans and lets a senile old c.unt ruin the club in the process

Everyone to their own but that's too far for me. I'm at the most apathetic I've ever been towards the club at the moment and I will be devastated if (when) Wenger gets a new contract. But The Arsenal are in my blood too long now. I look on them as a gift from my old man who made me a Gooner as a kid - something I passed on to my son. When my dad died we placed an Arsenal tie pin on him in his coffin. He would have loved that. My mom will phone and ask how The Arsenal did. The woman has zero interest in football but her husband and 4 sons are all Gooners.

It's not something I can switch off. I've spent thousands and thousands supporting us, gave up so much time, lost girlfriends over it. Being a Gooner has been a part of my life for over 40 years now. I have some bad memories sure, but also so many fantastic memories of cup final piss ups, great games, great footy trips with the lads, celebrating things like Anfield 89 and The Invincibles. Being a fan is more than just what is currently happening at the club.

Things change. People come, people go. Wenger will leave at some point. So whilst I won't attend games until he's gone I'll still watch them on TV etc and will encourage my son to do the same. And if my boy really wants to go to a game I'll bring him and try and take my enjoyment from seeing him enjoy the game.

So I'll wait. That's all I can do. Try and wait Wenger out. And then hopefully I'll enjoy watching and supporting us again.

And maybe if/when the time comes I will feel it impossible to walk away, but right now I feel that it is impossible for me to endure any more of this shit and feel that it would be much easier if I just walked away. I grew up supporting The Arsenal from the mid 70s so I have been through many, many dark times as a Gooner, but this time it just feels so much worse than before. Back then if a manager was shit, I would be confident that he would be walking the short plank in the near future, but now I just feel that it doesn't matter what this c.unt does cos he just isn't going anywhere.
Tbh most of my anger/despair these days is with the fans and board - we all know that the senile c.unt has lost it but doesn't see it and wont walk away, but it is the fact that the fans and the board seem to accept it and do nothing about it that kills me. For me it's the old adage that if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem, and apathy is most def part of the problem - other fans might be willing to sit back and sacrifice another 2 or 3 years of their life just waiting for the day that the b*stard finally f.ucks off, but if that is the way that it is going to be then I would rather turn my back on the club for the next few years and maybe return when the club decides that they no longer want to settle for mediocre.

Can I just say that in the meantime I hope and pray that those dedicated wob fans, stay the course from here until the end of the season in a bid to drive the w*nker out - if they are successful in their efforts, then I will forever be in their debt. I still believe that the fans have the ability to drive the f.ucker out this summer, but they have to have the courage of their opinions and continue to demand change - for those silent wob fans, may I suggest that participation in those protests might actually help to get the change you want, but staying silent does f.uck all

[Gunner Rob]

some great posts on here in the past couple of days (and quite sad really too )

I dont think that I will ever walk away from the club but I think am coming to terms with the fact that things will never be the same again.
However it is not just Arsenal that has changed - football itself has changed and indeed continues to change at an extraordinary rate. All seater soulless stadiums are becoming the norm, the FA Cup is dying year on year, fragmentation of league schedules due to TV coverage continues to increase and the players themselves are paid such vast fortunes they can no longer relate to the fanbase and vice versa.

one of the reasons why Wenger is still manager is that in this modern era what he achieves is actually considered a success. He recognised the importance of a top 4 finish and he knows that as long as he finishes in the top 4 he is basically untouchable. On one of my increasingly rare visits to a match last weekend I visited the club shop (I know, I know ) Anyway what struck me was the amount of crap that you could buy which wasn't related to winning a trophy. And even worse still was the size of the queues buying this crap!

I don't like it but basically Kroenke and Wenger know the market and they have realised that these days you dont actually need to win anything, the PERCEPTION JUST NEEDS TO BE THERE THAT YOU ARE A BIG CLUB. Arsenal do this, they have this season played arguably the best 2 teams in world football - Barcelona and Bayern Munich. It is irrelevant that we lose to these teams, the point is that we play these teams and if we do we can charge category A prices and they will sell out.

my theory on why Arsenal blew the league title this season (like in previous years) is that the last 16 CL games are given total priority and the other games around that time are given low priority. If you look at Leicester City in their past few league games the atmosphere at the start of a match is like the start of the Arsenal match v Barcelona. We were well up for that match but v Swansea City the team and the crowd just treat it as just another league game. Until our priorities change then nothing will change, but as I have stated above then from the club's point of view why should it?

[amazonas]

One, its Leicester who may prove you dont need to spend money to win the title. And if they do, its Leicester and Ranieri's success to own. The french muppet better not use Leicester success as some sort of validation of how he was right. It would be like a scientist trying to prove a theory, he fails, but another scientist proves the theory, yet the failed scientist wants the credit for 'having the idea'.

And where the F does Wenger get off aligning himself with Leicester City? When he manages one of the biggest clubs in England, with a wage bill not far behind City and Chelsea, with transfer fees paid of 42m and 35m in recent times.

If he wants to operate on Leicester City budget, there would be smaller clubs willing to take him. But he is a fraud, as he knows he cant operate on a smaller budget - he operates on a massive budget but pretends to be on a small budget.

Why dont the media call him out? Tell him Arsenal expenditure is close to Chelsea and City than it is to Leicester.

Look at the little worm, trying to align himself next to Ranieiri and Leicester City.

The man has no shame.

I don't mean to get hung up in technicalities here, agree with what you are saying mate, but that analogy doesn't do your argument any favors. Theoretical scientists (with the ideas) are essentially always the ones who get the credit. Einstein didn't experimentally prove any of his theories, other experimental scientists did that. Still it's his ideas and theoretical work it is based on. But since Wenger did not put down any formulas he certainly does not deserve any credit for Leicester's success.

[rodders999]

Just had a fairly decent post written (for a change) which I put a fair deal of time and effort into (for a change) and got a bastard power cut just before I hit submit and lost the fcuking lot

Everything to do with Wenger infuriates me

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Just had a fairly decent post written (for a change) which I put a fair deal of time and effort into (for a change) and got a bastard power cut just before I hit submit and lost the fcuking lot

Everything to do with Wenger infuriates me

Lucky us I guess

[amazonas]

Just had a fairly decent post written (for a change) which I put a fair deal of time and effort into (for a change) and got a bastard power cut just before I hit submit and lost the fcuking lot

Everything to do with Wenger infuriates me

Yes the same happened to my book of poetry

[GoonerMuzz]

Just had a fairly decent post written (for a change) which I put a fair deal of time and effort into (for a change) and got a bastard power cut just before I hit submit and lost the fcuking lot

Everything to do with Wenger infuriates me

Wenger caused your power cut, fcuk me he gets into everything

Until there is a unified front amongst the fans, which i feel there never will be, Wenger and Wiggy can run the club as they please.

It matters not how we each individually feel so as i said earlier in the season i'll take each game in isolation and try to enjoy them as such.

As said many times before we are no longer a football club looking for footballing success we are now a business looking for business success which we are achieving and unfortunately a lot of our fan-base are willing to settle for that.

Football at the top is no longer a sport but a massive money making enterprise and we fans are just a bunch of dinosaurs with rose tinted glasses yearning for a 'better' time 20 years ago

[armchair]

My juices have actually started flowing again now that theres a bit of aggro happening. On the terraces, social media, mainstream media. The recent #bannerwankers and subsequent reaction to the #bannerwankers has given me a new lease of life.
Im actually looking forward to the last game at boleyn ground.

[xisstential]

Just had a fairly decent post written (for a change) which I put a fair deal of time and effort into (for a change) and got a bastard power cut just before I hit submit and lost the fcuking lot

Everything to do with Wenger infuriates me

Yes the same happened to my book of poetry

"The truth is like poetry... and most people fucking hate poetry"

[BFG4]

I completely agree with any fan deciding to walk away from the club, at this point. I know some will stick with the club, with the belief that Wenger wont be here forever, but the question I would ask is, how much longer are fans willing to put up with his presence at the club? I'm no longer worried about him signing a new deal, but more about the fact that he will be a dictator to any new manager who comes in after him. Lets say, he stays until 2019, then moves upstairs. At that point, he will choose his successor, and if anyone thinks that guy wont have his every move dictated to him by Wenger, then your fooling yourself. If his health remains as good as it is, then he could be here for another 10 years at least, either as manager or as a dictator to the next manager.

[armchair]

Stay.
Stay and fight for your club!

[rodders999]

Just had a fairly decent post written (for a change) which I put a fair deal of time and effort into (for a change) and got a bastard power cut just before I hit submit and lost the fcuking lot

Everything to do with Wenger infuriates me

Lucky us I guess

Every cloud eh?