Protest Saturday

[Peeman]

U have Jeff Stelling saying why are we complaining we're ahead of Chavs, Manure . Ya Jeff Chavs won the league last year and 3 other times since the last time we won it along with CL and EL and 4 FA Cups. Manure have won 5 leagues and a CL. Then he goes on about how Martinez should and probably will get the scrotum.

Apparently we should be careful what we wish for and we are spoilt brats for wanting change after over ten years of rolling over and surrendering (typical from his sort AW that is) and being lied to.

But its ok for Everton fans wanting rid after 3 years of achieving status quo.

How much is ur ST at Hartlepool Jeff - mine is £1100 - transfer that into €uro and get an ass raping on the exchange rate and then factor in sky changing games with fuck all notice and already paid for flights going to waste but I'm not allowed question why my club are serial underachievers - We have now had the Chavs + Spunks oxygen thieves singing they want AW to stay - maybe its reverse psychology and they don't really want him to stay Whenever he bangs on about money being the route of all evil - I think of all his wasted experiments ie wages to players who had done fuck all to warrant it ie Super Nick apparently on £52k a week - me and my brother would have to be ST holders for 25 years each just to pay 1 weeks wages for that piece of shit. That's just 1 example there are so many other examples of the others who would not go elsewhere coz no one else would pay for their mediocrity or as it turns out maybe their loyalty?

January 2016 was apparently going to be very busy (LIAR). He bought 1 player that at the time he obviously didn't consider better than anyone he already had at the club coz he only got into the team through injuries and didn't start a league game til March. Since he got in he's been a breath of fresh air but apparently Whinger told him to shoot less.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/27/arsenals- ... s-5845534/

Thats just what we need more tippy tappy boring as fuck shite.


We've had the likes of Campbell pop up onto the scene and play some good solid stuff, Welbeck came back scored a few and both doing good work for the team showing commitment passion and heart but maybe have one off game and ur benched in favour of Mr stick my tongue out and the twirling slow the game down to a snails pace undroppable joke. No matter what Iwobi does he's coming off in the 70 min. This kind of management gives no incentive or disincentive for players to perform.


Anyone who thinks the WOB is about wanting him gone coz of lack of trophies is incorrect - in my case anyway I'm a pragmatist u can't win the league every year unless ur playing in a mickey mouse league. But to know that we have the players there and definitely if we had spent some of "The Warchest" we would have had a decent sweat at it is the thing that gets me and if we didn't win it so be it, lets regroup and have another go next year and maybe add where we came up short and look forward to the new season with expectations of progressing and not just settling for standing still and getting into CL that we have no hope of winning but just want to be there for the lolly .


Everyone bangs on about what he has done for Arsenal -

He took over a team with the best defence in the world - our defence is now a joke.

He had the likes of Dennis, Ian Wright - We now have Ramsey and Girood.

We were always looked on as The Bank of England Club - we are now like a penny bank.

We had Highbury - we now have Cashburton Grove.

Everyone hated us coz we were "The Arsenal" - now everyone likes us coz "we're good to watch and play the most attractive football" even though it took us more than an hour to get a shot on target against the mighty Norwich. Pundits say that shit after we have our one - five (max) games a season where we do play great stuff - the rest of the shite is monotonous. Souness is always at it - he'd have loved coming and playing this type of tippy tappy shite the lying bullshitter. Yes when it all clicks the handful of games a season its great but the rest of the time its

Why is it ok for other clubs to get rid of managers who have won more than this tictacless bufoon and not get all this hysteria about the man who is one of the best paid managers in world football and who charges his fans the most in "The best league in the world" for the pleasure of never getting a sniff at winning the league.

Who could u replace him with - anyone that will be held accountable for their own performance and if they end up not being good enough lets go again and not give one man 12 years to experiment with a failed philosophy.


PS. If John Cross is not a Gooner - go and fuck urself and don't be telling me how to support my club. Does he really think that any other top club in Europe would keep this excuse making piece of shit for this long just because of "The Top 4 Trophy". Tell him to talk to Ancelotti and Heynckes to name two.

[Redarmy]

everyone having a go about the protests, media really laughing at it.....

Former Liverpool defender Lawrenson was not too impressed with the protests.

“I have to say it was a pretty pathetic demonstration as demonstrations go,”

[Redarmy]

everyone having a go about the protests, media really laughing at it.....

Former Liverpool defender Lawrenson was not too impressed with the protests.

“I have to say it was a pretty pathetic demonstration as demonstrations go,”

That Red action and BSM really fucked it up, by accident or design?????

[hugh jardon]

I've been to one home game in two seasons now.

I find going to that stadium a very expensive and usually very boring and soulless experience.

I feel the team hasn't regularly played this supposed great Arsenal football we are now famed for, since Henry left nearly ten years ago.

I despise Kroenke and Gazidis and their obvious overriding priority in running Arsenal - securing 4th place and CL football/revenues, rather than winning the league.

I am utterly frustrated with AW for making the same squad personnel mistakes time after time and the team continually being unable to dig out results due to a lack of leadership types on the field. Or even hold a lead against lower opposition.

I despise modern football - the late kick off/date changes, cost of tickets, the huge coverage of football finance over reports of the game itself. I also despise the modern fan who is desperate for Twitter followers and "fame"
Eg marmite, Moh (utter cretin) etc

I applaud the protesters as a journey of a thousand miles begins with just one step. However I do feel the "Time For Change" message was unspecified as to what needs to be changed. Perhaps there is so much that fans want changed (as above) that the message got lost somewhere along the way.

My stance on the club is that the root cause of the problem is Kroenke... If AW did leave, I would have no confidence whatsoever in Kroenke appointing someone who would genuinely increase our chances of winning the league, under Kroenke's continued majority ownership.

I'm not sure what the answer is but I would be happier with Kroenke leaving the club than AW.

[armchair]

everyone having a go about the protests, media really laughing at it.....

Former Liverpool defender Lawrenson was not too impressed with the protests.

“I have to say it was a pretty pathetic demonstration as demonstrations go,”

That Red action and BSM really fucked it up, by accident or design?????

Thats a very good question.
Its the likes of BSM and RA who should be taking the lead and organising sustained direct action, with a clearly defined agenda.
But no, what do they do.......?
Jump on the back of our banner protests, hijack our TimeForChange slogan, dilute and devalue it with some vague, ambiguous lilly-livered, ill-though out card show.
They've left us wide open to criticism and mockery. Now they're on social media posting instagram selfies and basking in the glory of their "fans" telling them how wondetful they are.

Now its left to us to try to repair the damage, regain some momentum and get back our credibility and ownership of the protests.

The positive though is that the media are so fickle it is possible that after the City game the spotlight will be firmly back on Wengers future again and the shambles that was the BSM and RA effort will be yesterdays news

[Ziegler1988]

Arsene Wenger: Arsenal manager expected worse fans' protest
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36185022

"I thought the whole stadium would be white (with posters)," he said.

"One target is to keep 100% of people happy. Unfortunately I wasn't able to do that this season."

I hope that was said sarcastically or he's even more of a deluded fuckwit than I thought

[SteveO 35]

I've always maintained that we remain in a very small minority and the protest attempts on Saturday prove that without any shadow of doubt. For every Claude there's 10 Ty's, for every Goonersid there are 10 John Cross's, and for every Ikechuckwu there are 10 Patrick Barclays.

Sad but true - the average Bowl regular is either a tourist or a Wenger loving ringpiece

The supposed toxic atmosphere gets headlines on here because those few people represent the common voice on here. The truth of the matter is that every time I've gone to the bowl I've never witnessed this 'in fighting'. The Swansea game must have been the lowest of the low, but all I saw was a near empty stadium by full time and some mild booing.

TO1AW still has more for than against - sad, but very true

[foxinthebox2001]

Spent far too much of Sunday replying to what I once thought were realistic Twitter followers smug that the protest has become something of a joke among pundits and journalists.
Manys tweets asking if they are happy to donate their money to an American project that has stagnated the club for years.
Even journos, asking them if an ambitious manager was appointed would he put with this stagnant regime?
Even if they consider the approx. 8000 empty seats as support for Wenger.
On Talksport this morning John Cross answered this by saying it isn't much of a protest as they are already paid for, completely ignoring the point.
But theres none as blind as those that sing theres only one AW.
Apparently a quote from him was a sly dig that he expected 'a sea of white placards', what a c**t.
I have a long memory, and I wont be slow to remind them of what they have endorsed when we are lying 6th in November and destined to finish 2nd in our CL group.

[OneBardGooner]

Pre- Match (Arsenal v Norwich) Interview with one of the BSM guys.

Have a decko - He more or less says pretty much what we all think & say...a good interview:

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[GoonerMuzz]

Can't disagree with any of what he says OBG, just wish if that is the way the majority of BSM members feel they had been much clearer in their protest, too much politics in Supporter Groups these days, too many ulterior agendas.

People like him should be writing letters to newspapers, trying to get on the news etc to give our views as much credence and gravitas as possible but instead they're on small social media interviews which has little to no impact and wont be taken seriously.

I remember the Liverpool and Man U supporters groups were major sports news when they were fighting their corners against crap owners, poor managers whatever and got right in the face of the media to get their point across, admittedly they had a great deal of support from former players working in the media but so do we, but for some reason as a fan base we just can't organise, you know the old saying united we stand divided we fall, well our fans are well and truly divided

[armchair]

Him, RA and BSM can fuck right off.
Where were they 4/5 years ago when we were practically begging them to take the lead?

I'll tell you where they were - fuckin nowhere.

RA in the clubs pocket telling us......" we only try to improve the atmisphere in the ground"
And BSM? Only interested in ticket prices wasnt it?

Thats why individual groups of fans took it upon themselves with zero help from these self-serving cants to try to force change. We've travelled to games only to protest, spent our own cash buying banners, then once these jokers see that its actually working and the club and media are sitting up and taking notice they decide to jump on the bandwagon.

Well go fuck yourselves, you bunch of spineless, two-faced #flipflopping bastards!

[northbank123]

Those groups are only interested in self-promotion rather than what's good for the fans.

Piggybacking off the banner publicity to try and get their names out there. Pathetic.

[Clash]

Him, RA and BSM can fuck right off.
Where were they 4/5 years ago when we were practically begging them to take the lead?

I'll tell you where they were - fuckin nowhere.

RA in the clubs pocket telling us......" we only try to improve the atmosphere in the ground"

And BSM? Only interested in ticket prices wasnt it?

Thats why individual groups of fans took it upon themselves with zero help from these self-serving cants to try to force change. We've travelled to games only to protest, spent our own cash buying banners, then once these jokers see that its actually working and the club and media are sitting up and taking notice they decide to jump on the bandwagon.

Well go fuck yourselves, you bunch of spineless, two-faced #flipflopping bastards!

Well said.

One of the things that struck me about REDAction early on was how they'd talk of improving the atmosphere ... but whenever a chant started up at another part of the ground, they often wouldn't join in with it. Or they would sing something totally different.

It was blatant at times and soon looked like they they'd given themselves a status where any songs had to be instigated by them and nobody else.

I get the feeling the same applies to the protests. I could be wrong but RA certainly seem to be they types that do not take kindly to other groups of fans independently organising something without them.

[DB10GOONER]

It was embarrassing to be honest. What, a couple hundred people protesting in a stadium with about 50,000+ in it? I always said we were a minority and that our fan pressure would never drive Wenger out, especially if the press aren't pushing his buttons - and they certainly ain't now.

But you know fuck it, it was a start. Well done to everyone that protested.

One thing it did prove is just how many of our Conglomerates-attending "supporters" are JCL cúnts and fans of Arsene PLC rather than Arsenal FC. Fucking pricks.

[DB10GOONER]

Him, RA and BSM can fuck right off.
Where were they 4/5 years ago when we were practically begging them to take the lead?

I'll tell you where they were - fuckin nowhere.

RA in the clubs pocket telling us......" we only try to improve the atmisphere in the ground"
And BSM? Only interested in ticket prices wasnt it?

Thats why individual groups of fans took it upon themselves with zero help from these self-serving cants to try to force change. We've travelled to games only to protest, spent our own cash buying banners, then once these jokers see that its actually working and the club and media are sitting up and taking notice they decide to jump on the bandwagon.

Well go fuck yourselves, you bunch of spineless, two-faced #flipflopping bastards!

Bang on there, armchair. Fuck them.