As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
rodders999 wrote:Agree with those that say there's no plan. Was it on here or twatter I read that in signing Ibrahimovic United have replaced JVP quicker than we have
Sums it up really, we'll get in a new manager on the fly just like we do everything else. There's no plan during the season, there's no plan in the off season and there's certainly no plan to replace Le Fartpipe.
I have an awful feeling that when the glorious day of Wenger's retirement finally arrives, Gazidis will just turn to Wenger and ask who Wenger thinks should replace Wenger.
rodders999 wrote:Agree with those that say there's no plan. Was it on here or twatter I read that in signing Ibrahimovic United have replaced JVP quicker than we have
Sums it up really, we'll get in a new manager on the fly just like we do everything else. There's no plan during the season, there's no plan in the off season and there's certainly no plan to replace Le Fartpipe.
I have an awful feeling that when the glorious day of Wenger's retirement finally arrives, Gazidis will just turn to Wenger and ask who Wenger thinks should replace Wenger.
Agree with all of that (Plan? There is no plan!) except the DB10 for manager bit. I would want him to have managed successfully to some degree at a big club prior to taking the reigns at The Arsenal tbh. But it's not an issue as he has stated he is not interested in becoming a manager but wants to be a coach working hand in hand with a manager. So a "dream team" of DB10 and "A.N. Other" would be my ideal.
Yup and in years gone by I advocated him and Van Basten but Marco isnt a well man . I dont think Dennis likes the limelight or the BS that comes with bieng a PL Manager .
So you can have a mouthpiece we are sure to have plenty of those around judging by the amount of media boys we have !
rodders999 wrote:Agree with those that say there's no plan. Was it on here or twatter I read that in signing Ibrahimovic United have replaced JVP quicker than we have
Sums it up really, we'll get in a new manager on the fly just like we do everything else. There's no plan during the season, there's no plan in the off season and there's certainly no plan to replace Le Fartpipe.
I have an awful feeling that when the glorious day of Wenger's retirement finally arrives, Gazidis will just turn to Wenger and ask who Wenger thinks should replace Wenger.
And he'll say Eboue won't he?
Yes. Yes, he will.
A managerial dream team of Comedy Eboue and Legohead Denilson.
northbank123 wrote:Fuck Henry. Just like Keown the bloke wants to coast by on his reputation and is more interested in getting his face on TV and playing the cock on Sky than actually earning his craft. He is on sky all the time so it would have been a huge interference.
The succession plan should be to scour every single area of the club that the bloke has touched with industrial-grade bleach. Not to pack the club full of his disciples who want to carry on his work, no matter how great they might have been as players.
I think you're overlooking the fact that both TA6 and Freddie have both spoken out against Wenger in the last couple of years. All we need is DB10 to join TA6 then that'll be a dream team of coaches at the club for the pre-bowl supporters.
Well, I'm a pre-bowl supporter and it does not fill me with hope of a "dream team". How do you know they will be successful? How do you know they are good coaches? How do you know Wenger won't just drill and instill his own busted flush of a philosophy into them - which let's be honest is very likely. Great players seldom make great coaches or great managers. I find it hard to be optimistic about anything Wenger touches anymore tbh.
Thats just your Wenger bias talking. Great team players do well. Outstanding individuals like Maradona, Di Stefano, Hoddle tend to struggle as they were probably the best player in training whilst in the manager/ coach role.
northbank123 wrote:Fuck Henry. Just like Keown the bloke wants to coast by on his reputation and is more interested in getting his face on TV and playing the cock on Sky than actually earning his craft. He is on sky all the time so it would have been a huge interference.
The succession plan should be to scour every single area of the club that the bloke has touched with industrial-grade bleach. Not to pack the club full of his disciples who want to carry on his work, no matter how great they might have been as players.
I think you're overlooking the fact that both TA6 and Freddie have both spoken out against Wenger in the last couple of years. All we need is DB10 to join TA6 then that'll be a dream team of coaches at the club for the pre-bowl supporters.
Well, I'm a pre-bowl supporter and it does not fill me with hope of a "dream team". How do you know they will be successful? How do you know they are good coaches? How do you know Wenger won't just drill and instill his own busted flush of a philosophy into them - which let's be honest is very likely. Great players seldom make great coaches or great managers. I find it hard to be optimistic about anything Wenger touches anymore tbh.
Thats just your Wenger bias talking. Great team players do well. Outstanding individuals like Maradona, Di Stefano, Hoddle tend to struggle as they were probably the best player in training whilst in the manager/ coach role.
Honestly, I would not agree with that. I've been accused of being an AKB on here (okay it was by an idiot, but still...) because I can still respect Wenger for what he achieved between 1997-2006 and the FA Cups in 2014 and 2015 and I do not actively hate the man. But I'm also pragmatic enough to see that he has a choke hold on the club and anyone that works for him will have to toe his line. And his line doesn't work anymore. I honestly think we need a clean surgical break. Get rid of him, his staff, his methods, everything.
A succession plan would suggest there's plans for Wenger to leave. I'm not sure there is. Ever.
And even if there was, that "plan" would be in the hands of Wenger, Gazidis, Dick and Kroenke so I'm half expecting an underwhelming replacement in much the same way they've dealt with signing a striker, midfielder and centre back
There is NOBODY that idolise's former players as much as I do (PV4, TA6 and Bergkamp will forever be heroes in my eyes), but I am not prepared to align myself with the idea of having former players working at the club as a necessity - in recent times we have seen the likes of wrighty and keown launching passionate defences of wenger (and they are far from the only one's ) and for me it tells me that either (a) they cant recognise the problems and would then be no addition to the staff or (b) choosing to suck wenker off to keep on his good side and are then no better than street wh*res in my opinion
A coach has to bring something more to the table than just being a former player
augie wrote:There is NOBODY that idolise's former players as much as I do (PV4, TA6 and Bergkamp will forever be heroes in my eyes), but I am not prepared to align myself with the idea of having former players working at the club as a necessity - in recent times we have seen the likes of wrighty and keown launching passionate defences of wenger (and they are far from the only one's ) and for me it tells me that either (a) they cant recognise the problems and would then be no addition to the staff or (b) choosing to suck wenker off to keep on his good side and are then no better than street wh*res in my opinion
A coach has to bring something more to the table than just being a former player
You are obsessed with Wenger's cock getting sucked, augie. In every second post you upload, someone is sucking Wenger off! Obsessed, I tell you.
northbank123 wrote:Fuck Henry. Just like Keown the bloke wants to coast by on his reputation and is more interested in getting his face on TV and playing the cock on Sky than actually earning his craft. He is on sky all the time so it would have been a huge interference.
The succession plan should be to scour every single area of the club that the bloke has touched with industrial-grade bleach. Not to pack the club full of his disciples who want to carry on his work, no matter how great they might have been as players.
I think you're overlooking the fact that both TA6 and Freddie have both spoken out against Wenger in the last couple of years. All we need is DB10 to join TA6 then that'll be a dream team of coaches at the club for the pre-bowl supporters.
Well, I'm a pre-bowl supporter and it does not fill me with hope of a "dream team". How do you know they will be successful? How do you know they are good coaches? How do you know Wenger won't just drill and instill his own busted flush of a philosophy into them - which let's be honest is very likely. Great players seldom make great coaches or great managers. I find it hard to be optimistic about anything Wenger touches anymore tbh.
Thats just your Wenger bias talking. Great team players do well. Outstanding individuals like Maradona, Di Stefano, Hoddle tend to struggle as they were probably the best player in training whilst in the manager/ coach role.
Honestly, I would not agree with that. I've been accused of being an AKB on here (okay it was by an idiot, but still...) because I can still respect Wenger for what he achieved between 1997-2006 and the FA Cups in 2014 and 2015 and I do not actively hate the man. But I'm also pragmatic enough to see that he has a choke hold on the club and anyone that works for him will have to toe his line. And his line doesn't work anymore. I honestly think we need a clean surgical break. Get rid of him, his staff, his methods, everything.
I think the appointment of Adams especially, will move away from Wenger's methods. Adams is very much a Graham / Howe man and with a nod of respect to Wenger between 1997-2002. He is strong enough to use his own methods. It'll be good for the u-18, as for the main job, only time will tell.
Not so sure about that Nos89 - the younger TA6 would certainly have been more like GG and would light a fire under these young players, but after tackling his demons he seems to have become one of these philosophical guys who prefers to talk softly and devoid of passion. TA6 was an exceptional leader and I loved him as a player, but in latter years he seems somewhat robotic - I know his personal life had issues (still got to shagg caprice for a while though ) and the way he has faced up and tackled them is a testament to his character, but he appears now to be a shell of the man we all loved
augie wrote:Not so sure about that Nos89 - the younger TA6 would certainly have been more like GG and would light a fire under these young players, but after tackling his demons he seems to have become one of these philosophical guys who prefers to talk softly and devoid of passion. TA6 was an exceptional leader and I loved him as a player, but in latter years he seems somewhat robotic - I know his personal life had issues (still got to shagg caprice for a while though ) and the way he has faced up and tackled them is a testament to his character, but he appears now to be a shell of the man we all loved
I agree with your analysis, but I can't believe TA6 would watch young players turn their back on the ball or pull out of a tackle without bollocking the life out of them.
Lee Dixon described, prior to his first NLD, how TA6 held him of the floor by the throat and explained how 'we don't lose to the Scum!!!'
I can't believe that fire has completely disappeared.
I do love that TA6 is back at the club, but I agree with Augie that he is a different man now. He'd certainly never challenge TOF or instigate a new style of play. Knowing TOF's obsession with aesthetics on the pitch ( ), at the cost of genuine success, I am sure that he'd forbid any defensive training/preparation of any sort, just as he has put the shackles on Bould coaching the first team.
I'd obviously be in favour of getting a load of our ex-players from the 90s and 00s back as coaches, but seeing how TOF has just run off our record goalscorer, we all know that would never happen under this despotic bastard.
GG was also a dictator, granted, but at least he surrounded himself with Arsenal men/ex-team-mates.
g88ner wrote:A succession plan would suggest there's plans for Wenger to leave. I'm not sure there is. Ever.
And even if there was, that "plan" would be in the hands of Wenger, Gazidis, Dick and Kroenke so I'm half expecting an underwhelming replacement in much the same way they've dealt with signing a striker, midfielder and centre back
augie wrote:Not so sure about that Nos89 - the younger TA6 would certainly have been more like GG and would light a fire under these young players, but after tackling his demons he seems to have become one of these philosophical guys who prefers to talk softly and devoid of passion. TA6 was an exceptional leader and I loved him as a player, but in latter years he seems somewhat robotic - I know his personal life had issues (still got to shagg caprice for a while though ) and the way he has faced up and tackled them is a testament to his character, but he appears now to be a shell of the man we all loved
Yes agree he is a changed man, now seems the deep thinker, and very placid, life has changed him......nothing like the player who used to shout and punch walls before games......great player and leader
Obsessed, I tell you. 
