As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Gunner Rob wrote:Ian Wright has just been on radio 5 saying that he was with Wenger last night, and Wenger told him that his time at Arsenal was coming to an end.
Potentially huge news
Think I'm gonna run me a bubble bath........up with the periscope
The thing is who else was there...was Wrighty nice a bloke as he is 'interpreting' something wenger said ...along the lines of ...Well I have done all these years
Or maybe he did actually use the phrase 'My time is coming to an end' - if so he's either dying or he means the next contract he signs will be his last...
We all know wenger is more a politician than a football manager and knows how to spin words/ a story in the media...yup a right crafty ceeeeuntt.
If Wrighty does make some kind of re-traction (oooh! missis ) over the week-end then maybe - just maybe there might be a glimmer of hope...Otherwise carry on as normal and be Depressed.
Gunner Rob wrote:Ian Wright has just been on radio 5 saying that he was with Wenger last night, and Wenger told him that his time at Arsenal was coming to an end.
Potentially huge news
Wenger - "Ian, my time at the club is coming to an end... just one more contract and that'll be enough. Maybe. "
Wenger pissing off (for whatever reason) would make me happier than anything football related since 2004.
BUT - we've been here sooooooo many times before haven't we??
* The predictable sequence of shit results happens
* Pressure starts to build
* Wenger and his arse lickers start a charm offensive
* Along comes a flat track bully match (This time = Hull)
* We win 1 match and the pressure is off
* Rinse and repeat
Rob Admin wrote:If this is true I wonder if part of the deal is that the board will offer him a contract that he turns down?
If and when he finally goes, it won't be with an explicit or implicit acceptance that he has underperformed or isn't the best man for the job. So I don't buy into IWWW8's story about him supposedly looking haggard and throwing in the towel.
But the reality is that what you're suggesting wouldn't be a deal per se - the board will (or would) offer him another deal and if he leaves it will be entirely of his own accord.
Forgive me if I am slightly sceptical that Wenger would choose to confide in the largest loud mouth and desperate media personality wannabe out of all his ex-players......
Not remotely excited about this. Not been excited about the club for a long long time and don't even want to begin what excitement would feel like under a new manager. Not knowing whether we could win the thing or finish 6th.
Leaving aside Ian Wright's comments, does anyone actually think, Wenger feels any pressure from the fans? I'm sure between now, and May, there will be banners against him, but he will be down the tunnel before they're displayed, and apart from a few mild questions in his post-match presser, they will be out of sight, and out of mind. Even if there was a protest organised against him, it would be mild at best, and met with chants of "One Arsene Wenger". I don't think any fan pressure would make a slight difference, but it really does help Wenger and the board, that we have the most passive fan base in the world, who are willing to accept any shit, thrown their way. In this sort of environment, why wouldn't Wenger sign a new deal.
BFG4 wrote:Leaving aside Ian Wright's comments, does anyone actually think, Wenger feels any pressure from the fans? I'm sure between now, and May, there will be banners against him, but he will be down the tunnel before they're displayed, and apart from a few mild questions in his post-match presser, they will be out of sight, and out of mind. Even if there was a protest organised against him, it would be mild at best, and met with chants of "One Arsene Wenger". I don't think any fan pressure would make a slight difference, but it really does help Wenger and the board, that we have the most passive fan base in the world, who are willing to accept any shit, thrown their way. In this sort of environment, why wouldn't Wenger sign a new deal.
I really hope Hull beat us. It may sound cynical, but this is the best chance to get rid of him. The fact he is off contract makes it different than last seasons. The season needs to go tits up. Which means finishing outside the top 4, as well as behind Spurs (it has to happen). Ozil and Sanchez to not commit, and a flogging by Bayern. The atmosphere needs to be so hostile that Wenger cannot sign a contract.
Thats how poorly our club is run - we need to hit rock bottom before we axe a manager that simply isnt doing his job, and hasnt been for some time. I dont know why its such a big fuking deal, given Chelsea, Liverpool, City, Tottenham and more recently Man United chop and change managers when appropriate. I dont quite get this obsession of wanting to see a manager stay for a lengthy period of time. In politics, many major countries have term limits in order to minimize centralizing power to one person, as well as to change things up to avoid malaise. I actually think a lifespan of 3-5 years is best for a manager. I dont understand Gary Neville almost wetting himself talking about longevity of a manager. A manager stays for a long time if it continues to work - like Ferguson. However in our case, the argument seems to be non other than, 'he has been here 21 years, whats an extra year or two'?
There is no sensible argument to keep Wenger. All the Wenger stay brigade say is, 'be careful what you wish for', 'do you want to finish 8th', 'End up like Davis Moyes Man United' or, 'who else can be a better job'. However, what does it say, that no one is saying 'keep Wenger on because he is building toward something, and is on the verge of achieving something really significant'. The fact its lost on the pundits that their defence of Wenger is rooted not in optimism, but in floating doomsday scenarios in the case Wenger ever left, just proves how blissfully unaware they are of the fact they must lower the bar tenfold just so Arsene can clear it.
Listened to the re-run of the Friday Night 5Live Footie Prog this morning and Wrighty said that whilst in conversation with Wenger at the do on Thursday night
"He looked tired"
"He looked like he had been Winded -I've never seen him like that before"
"he said his time at Arsenal is coming to an end"
"He didn't say he was leaving" and here's the bit that the media are all over like a rash "But I got the impression he would be leaving at the end of the season"
So that was Wrighty's view of it....so let's not count those chickens peeps...we've a Loooooong way to go yet.
BFG4 wrote:Leaving aside Ian Wright's comments, does anyone actually think, Wenger feels any pressure from the fans? I'm sure between now, and May, there will be banners against him, but he will be down the tunnel before they're displayed, and apart from a few mild questions in his post-match presser, they will be out of sight, and out of mind. Even if there was a protest organised against him, it would be mild at best, and met with chants of "One Arsene Wenger". I don't think any fan pressure would make a slight difference, but it really does help Wenger and the board, that we have the most passive fan base in the world, who are willing to accept any shit, thrown their way. In this sort of environment, why wouldn't Wenger sign a new deal.
No, they haven't even worked a half a day in football, so why would he listen to them?.
Those idiots singing one AW are only doing so out of sentiment rather than belief in a bright future under him, they are totally missing the point and they would be better off just keeping quiet if they don't want to protest against him, they are too stupid to work that out though, I am sorry to say this about fellow gooners but it is what it is.
Sky in full Wenger defense mode already with their coverage, showing as many pro-Wenger fans and banners as they can find. This is going to be a long old afternoon isn't it.