THE WENGER THREAD

[Herd]

As much as its forgoten the football played until 2007 was the best Ive ever seen . I cant forget it . As much as I want him gone I have seen football I never thought I would ever see under Arsene Wenger . This I will never forget . EVER !

I will never forget that either Herd, nor do i think anyone on here would disagree with that sentiment, but you also have to admit that some of the football under him since then has been truly atrocious

Barring 3/4 games a season out football since 2011 has been dog shit !

[DB10GOONER]

When shit for brains held up our record against that of other premier league clubs in the CL as some sort of "proof" that we're not as dire in that competition as is commonly perceived the AKB morons were all over it like flies to shit.

By drawing attention to that he is fair game to all the ridicule he's receiving now that mighty Leicester have gone further in their first ever try than dickwad has managed in 7 years.

But not in the eyes of his cult of course, led by chief worshipper Arsene-licker Blog who are mocking anyone who is using the Leicester situation to ridicule the old fraud.

Fucking pricks

As hilariously embarrassing as that is, for me it's not even the issue. For me, if you (like Wenger) have not won the CL as a manager, you should simply shut the fuck up about it. It's cringe-inducing to have our once great club being associated with any concept that equates simply "being in a competition" as some form of "success".

Arseblog is an embarrassment.

[DB10GOONER]

As much as its forgoten the football played until 2007 was the best Ive ever seen . I cant forget it . As much as I want him gone I have seen football I never thought I would ever see under Arsene Wenger . This I will never forget . EVER !

I will never forget that either Herd, nor do i think anyone on here would disagree with that sentiment, but you also have to admit that some of the football under him since then has been truly atrocious

Barring 3/4 games a season out football since 2011 has been dog shit !

In 98 and 02 and 04 we consistently played the best football I've ever seen played by any team ever - and I include the Whores, Brazil 70, Ajax etc in that. The style, the quality, the skill - and all at pace with aggression and power - was stunning at times. And beautiful to watch.

And whilst I don't buy into the horseshit that Wenger had nothing to do with that success or style, or that he was "lucky" or all the credit goes to George Graham (and yes Wenger did benefit from that defence) or any of that old pony, I do think Wenger's real genius was identifying great players and then knowing that he could just let them "go and express themselves".

And I also think this is why he has been exposed as a failure for the last 10 years - because he does not have the standard of player that can do that. He has Ramsey, Giroud and Xhaka where once it was Bergkamp, Henry and Vieira.

[augie]

When shit for brains held up our record against that of other premier league clubs in the CL as some sort of "proof" that we're not as dire in that competition as is commonly perceived the AKB morons were all over it like flies to shit.

By drawing attention to that he is fair game to all the ridicule he's receiving now that mighty Leicester have gone further in their first ever try than dickwad has managed in 7 years.

But not in the eyes of his cult of course, led by chief worshipper Arsene-licker Blog who are mocking anyone who is using the Leicester situation to ridicule the old fraud.

Fucking pricks

Amongst all the shit quotes being suggested for the mobile billboard, the one you brought up from him last season where he said that Leicester would struggle in the champs league, has to be up there amongst the most stupid ones he has made - I also think that the list of average clubs that have progressed further than us in champs league over past 7 seasons, is worth a mention too

[Theoperator]

Just look at those players... all strong, gutsy, fighters, leaders, men. Every one of them. Not one you'd worry about having beside you when the shit hit the fan. Compare that to the pampered primadonnas that now wear the jersey...

Anelka a gutsy non primadonna?

When he played for us he was young but bursting with talent ,if he had stayed he might well have been the best striker in the league ,him and Henry together at Arsenal would have been unstoppable !

This ^^ Funnily I have always thought that of Anelka. We know the Wenker misplaced Loyalty to shit players causes a host of troubles. However I always felt if Anelka had stayed he would have been fantastic, the Wenger loyalty would have helped a lot, what happened to him after he left us was one of the biggest wastes of a talent since dare I say George Best . I can honestly say I was sadder when he left than when TH14 did (Taking age into consideration

[DB10GOONER]

Just look at those players... all strong, gutsy, fighters, leaders, men. Every one of them. Not one you'd worry about having beside you when the shit hit the fan. Compare that to the pampered primadonnas that now wear the jersey...

Anelka a gutsy non primadonna?

When he played for us he was young but bursting with talent ,if he had stayed he might well have been the best striker in the league ,him and Henry together at Arsenal would have been unstoppable !

This ^^ Funnily I have always thought that of Anelka. We know the Wenker misplaced Loyalty to shit players causes a host of troubles. However I always felt if Anelka had stayed he would have been fantastic, the Wenger loyalty would have helped a lot, what happened to him after he left us was one of the biggest wastes of a talent since dare I say George Best . I can honestly say I was sadder when he left than when TH14 did (Taking age into consideration

I have mixed feelings on Anelka. Deffo an opportunity missed for him to become a true great, and was sorry to see him go before he fulfilled his potential with us, but his own greed and his brother and cousin's greed is what fucked him.

[Theoperator]

Thats what I meant really, no his family can f**k off

[DB10GOONER]

Member Berries time...

Remember that screamer Anelka scored against Manure? That goal had class written all over it.

[AkneyGooner]

As much as its forgoten the football played until 2007 was the best Ive ever seen . I cant forget it . As much as I want him gone I have seen football I never thought I would ever see under Arsene Wenger . This I will never forget . EVER !

I will never forget that either Herd, nor do i think anyone on here would disagree with that sentiment, but you also have to admit that some of the football under him since then has been truly atrocious

Barring 3/4 games a season out football since 2011 has been dog shit !

In 98 and 02 and 04 we consistently played the best football I've ever seen played by any team ever - and I include the Whores, Brazil 70, Ajax etc in that. The style, the quality, the skill - and all at pace with aggression and power - was stunning at times. And beautiful to watch.

And whilst I don't buy into the horseshit that Wenger had nothing to do with that success or style, or that he was "lucky" or all the credit goes to George Graham (and yes Wenger did benefit from that defence) or any of that old pony, I do think Wenger's real genius was identifying great players and then knowing that he could just let them "go and express themselves".

And I also think this is why he has been exposed as a failure for the last 10 years - because he does not have the standard of player that can do that. He has Ramsey, Giroud and Xhaka where once it was Bergkamp, Henry and Vieira.

Its a cliché I know but with a spine of a team like that with a organizer in defence you don't need as much tactics from the coach, I think he benefited from the defence, although 2004 was not the same defence, but he benifited from the attitude installed into the club, which lasts about two team rebuilds at most

The problem Wenger has is that I think he knows this, so he marginalised the whole role of captaincy and leadership, as it has to all be about him.

As much as anything he has changed the mentality of the club for the worse.

[augie]

At lunchtime I got my regular annual call from the club saying that I was quite high in the season ticket waiting list, and would I be interested if one became available for me - they told me that they couldn't say for certain that I would be offered one until May, but this was just a heads up in advance. I then responded by asking if the managerial situation would be resolved by then, and he responded that he couldn't say for certain but he imagines it probably would be. I then told him that if wenger was gone at that stage then I might be interested, but that if he was still in charge there is no way that I would buy a season ticket. He then replied that he hoped for my sake that he was gone, to which I said "no not for my sake, for all of our sakes"


One thing that shocked me when I got the e-mail from him, was that if I wasn't interested in taking up the offer of the season ticket, I could offer it to a family member or friend instead - has the waiting list now shrunk that much that you don't even have to be on it to buy a season ticket ??

[Babu]

So, we all know Wenger is shit in Europe, but how shit is he really?

I mean we've been in the Champions League since...blah, blah, blah

So, on the BBC, a survey showing the League Table for the first 100 games in Europe.

Top 10? Not even close!

1st... Pep Guardiola Won 61 of the 99 games he has overseen, drawing 23 and losing 15.

Louis van Gaal: W61 D22 L17
Rafael Benitez: W60 D22 L18
Jupp Heynckes: W58 D20 L22
Valeriy Lobanovskiy: W56 D23 L21
Giovanni Trapattoni: W56 D22 L22
Fabio Capello: W54 D27 L19
Sven-Goran Eriksson: W54 D26 L20
Jose Mourinho: W54 D25 L21
Carlo Ancelotti: W51 D27 L22


27th Arsene Wenger: W42 D29 L29

P.S. The "famous" Christian Gross is 25th!

One Arsene Wenger?

[rodders999]

The usual suspects who just 2 weeks ago revelled in mocking Jardim (for the sole reason that he'd be linked with their messiah's job) are suspiciously quiet tonight

[Leyton Gooner]

No doubt they'll be mocking Guardiola instead

[northbank123]

Shocking from Guardiola to start Sane, Sterling, Silva, Aguero and de Bruyne tonight. Monaco start like a house on fire and exploit any space they can find with lightning pace. They also tire horrifically long before the end of the game. Every single scrap of common sense says that with a two-goal lead, start with a defensive outlook to contain them and then you've got a wealth of pacy attacking options to tear them apart in the second half.

Instead City barely put together two passes in the entire first half and then despite Monaco barely being mobile throughout the second half, City laboured away with little creativity. Now Monaco have showed that they are no mugs at all and played some wonderful stuff, but they also spent 30% of the time completely incapacitated by fatigue and a team with the resources and quality of City should be punishing that.

Still took another complete brain fuck to defend a set piece ridiculously high for them to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. That ball is simply no danger if they were defending in a remotely sensible area and you just couldn't see any other way in which Monaco could ever score.

[cameron326]

No doubt the Wenger loyalists in the media will be looking at City and Guardiola and saying "Look how hard the CL is, no one can take progressing in the knockout stages for granted, so give Wenger a break". Problem is no one minds falling once, twice or three times in the last 16/quarter finals. But failing again and again and again and again and again and again and again, and for the SAME BLOODY REASONS EVERY TIME. That's what makes Wenger special.