Your choice as manager/Arteta Merged thread

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Who Do YOU Want As Next Arsenal Manager

Ancelotti
27
21%
Tuchel
1
1%
Allegri
62
49%
PV4
7
6%
Enrique
3
2%
Jardim
6
5%
Nagelsmann
1
1%
Rodgers
1
1%
Arteta
4
3%
Others
15
12%
 
Total votes: 127

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augie
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Re: Your Choice As Manager

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:07 pm
robbo10 wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:07 pm
John Gregory is a available........
Alan Pardew too! Where's Sven these days?



Pobably humping the bejaysus out of some blond chick half his age :roll:

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SteveO 35
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augie wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:44 pm
SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:07 pm
robbo10 wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:07 pm
John Gregory is a available........
Alan Pardew too! Where's Sven these days?



Pobably humping the bejaysus out of some blond chick half his age :roll:
Whilst still being paid to do so by the English FA. Its not a bad life eh? :D

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Worrying that Claudio Ranieri was at the game today...

Thankfully Brendan Rodgers has dismissed speculation linking him with the job and Vieira is happy at NY.

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NickF wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:45 pm
Worrying that Claudio Ranieri was at the game today...

Thankfully Brendan Rodgers has dismissed speculation linking him with the job and Vieira is happy at NY.
I'm sure he was the Kroenke's personal guest. Win the league on a shoestring - that's our boy!

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:29 pm
NickF wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:45 pm
Worrying that Claudio Ranieri was at the game today...

Thankfully Brendan Rodgers has dismissed speculation linking him with the job and Vieira is happy at NY.
I'm sure he was the Kroenke's personal guest. Win the league on a shoestring - that's our boy!
Haha Gazidis did say we need to look at the Leicester model, I didn't realise he was being quite that literal!.

:banghead: :censored:

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the club are trying to sell rodgers via the mouthpiece (John Cross) and he's already dividing the fanbase. They're looking for a Wenger 2.0, a yes man that will get us top 4 while selling bullshit dreams of more.
If we're actually trying to be a comeptitive club Allegri is a no fucking brainer. Young enough to come in and build something new but also a proven winner that can bring a new mentality to the club. Some *word censored* are demanding Vieira :banghead: our fanbase

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Someone who wont be 'thankful' for the job. Someone who comes with the intent of doing a job and not just to be 'Arsenal manager'.

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Enrique now clear favourite with bookies to get the job. Rodgers still drifting.

I’m gonna open a book on how long it takes for there to be a “Enrique out” thread.

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Do not want Vieira.

We need to look past former Arsenal players and go outside the fold.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:30 am
Enrique now clear favourite with bookies to get the job. Rodgers still drifting.

I’m gonna open a book on how long it takes for there to be a “Enrique out” thread.



I am totally opposed to enrique - in my opinion we need a total change of direction, and that means bringing in a manager that demands some physicality and not more tippy tappy shite

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augie wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:19 am
nut flush gooner wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:30 am
Enrique now clear favourite with bookies to get the job. Rodgers still drifting.

I’m gonna open a book on how long it takes for there to be a “Enrique out” thread.



I am totally opposed to enrique - in my opinion we need a total change of direction, and that means bringing in a manager that demands some physicality and not more tippy tappy shite

Tippy tappy is fine as long as it is executed in the right way with the right players. Guardiola proven it works in the Bundesliga and now in the PL. With the summer recruitment for city, I expect them to become more tippy tappy than ever over the next few years.

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Re: Your Choice As Manager

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:24 am
augie wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:19 am
nut flush gooner wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:30 am
Enrique now clear favourite with bookies to get the job. Rodgers still drifting.

I’m gonna open a book on how long it takes for there to be a “Enrique out” thread.



I am totally opposed to enrique - in my opinion we need a total change of direction, and that means bringing in a manager that demands some physicality and not more tippy tappy shite

Tippy tappy is fine as long as it is executed in the right way with the right players. Guardiola proven it works in the Bundesliga and now in the PL. With the summer recruitment for city, I expect them to become more tippy tappy than ever over the next few years.



Guardiola has proven that it works when you have top quality players in every position and some hard as nails b**tards in key positions too - we neither have the quality of players required, nor the tough b**tards to supplement them

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Tippy tappy as played bay Barcelona and Pep teams is as much about off the ball movement as it is short passing. Barcelona use the 7 second rule - every time the ball is lost, every player must sprint like mad and close the nearest player down, this running goes for 7 seconds and if the ball is not won back in 7 seconds after losing it, only then do Barcelona fall back into a defensive shape.

Wenger was not a manager skilled in the art of fast passing football. He was a simply a fan of it and tried his best to play it here at Arsenal.

His best team was a fast counter attacking team, where every player was over 6ft tall (except for Cashley). The ball went form one end to the other in a flash.

Why he went the way of this tippy tapp shit I dont know. I can only imagine he saw the plaudits Barcelona were getting and his ego wanted some of it.

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1. Dennis Berkamp
2. Patrick Viera
3. George Graham

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Wilson wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:56 am
Tippy tappy as played bay Barcelona and Pep teams is as much about off the ball movement as it is short passing. Barcelona use the 7 second rule - every time the ball is lost, every player must sprint like mad and close the nearest player down, this running goes for 7 seconds and if the ball is not won back in 7 seconds after losing it, only then do Barcelona fall back into a defensive shape.

Wenger was not a manager skilled in the art of fast passing football. He was a simply a fan of it and tried his best to play it here at Arsenal.

His best team was a fast counter attacking team, where every player was over 6ft tall (except for Cashley). The ball went form one end to the other in a flash.

Why he went the way of this tippy tapp shit I dont know. I can only imagine he saw the plaudits Barcelona were getting and his ego wanted some of it.
Yeah pressing high up the pitch is a big part of it, early Wenger teams used to do that. I never figured out why with the exception of Sanchez in recent seasons we don’t bother with the high press. Pool do it very well.

Barça also had a ball winner in Mascherano, without ball winners in your team and the high press tippy tappy doesn’t work as we seen with Arsenal.

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