Other Matches Thread

[goonersid]

A Saints player’s foot was playing them onside whilst your other points are open to interpretation.
I’m surprised at you biting at this one Augie

[DB10GOONER]

Sid stop acting the devil's advocate cùnt ffs!



The problem with VAR is it does not take the stupid human out of the equation. Why delay the game 5 minutes and the decision can still be wrong? One of the many many many things I hate about the homoerotic "sport" of rugby is the fucking stop start tedious slow shitness of it. And this fucking bullshit of the ref announcing his decisions to the entitled pack of closet job cùnts that make up a towel flicker crowd? Fuck off.

Football should flow fast not stop so some fucking idiot can ask some other idiot to watch TV.

Also I love the culture of fans feeling genuinely aggrieved by terrible decisions and that sense of having gotten away with one when you get a dodgy decision. I don't want to watch a cold sterile game that stops and starts but oh hey look those stoppages mean the ref got an extra 10% of his decisions right but still managed to get some fucking wrong.

Fuck that. Fuck VAR.

[Bradywasking]

For VAR to work maybe we need officials, authorities and media without an agenda..That agenda being blatant favouritism towards certain players and clubs. How Dermot Gallagher on SSN stood withouting blinking and adamantly say VAR got both decisions, that went Tottenham Hotspur's way, in League Cup semi final correct ?
Its just a fudge like the "anticipated contact" excuse threw out for the Granny Shagger all those years ago. .

[Henry Norris 1913]

sorry augie but I don't see the argument against VAR at all

last night derby had an offside goal ruled out, the decision was minimal in real time but thanks to VAR it was correctly ruled out, I didn't see the incident in the seconf half you're referring to but in my mind there is no way anyone can ever moan about officials or refereeing ever again unless they're willing to admit we need VAR or any equivalent technology. The game is "human" as you said, but it is still humans making the decisions, they're just slowing the game down.

Of course we can - we moan about keepers, defenders and every other type of player when they fcuk up, so why cant we complain about referee's too ? It isnt as if you are holding up a foolproof method of eradicating mistakes here as an alternative - everywhere we turn we are seeing wrong decisions by var, AND it is also proving to be a slow process on occasions too. In the nfl coaches get 2 (sometimes 3) "challenges" where they can dispute a referee's call in a game, but that is a stop start game anyway so the interference is minimal - fans are already (rightly) complaining about how little actual gametime there is in 90 minutes and how much time wasting there is, and var is only likely to compound those issues imo

because referees aren't on the pitch competing - they're there to officiate the game
they are there to do a job, not entertain or take part in the play. its not interesting to watch decisions being made, they are made because they have to be? i hate this modern culture of celebrity refs, we can do without twats like clattenburg and dowd thinking the game is about them when it isn't.

we need to be having a discussion on how to improve VAR - there are many ways but to argue that because it doesn't get it right 100% time that it is surplus to requirements is absolutely ridiculous in it's lack of logic - it's like arguing we can do without seatbelts because they don't stop fatalities 100% of the time - its still increases the likelyhood of incorrect calls. how many times have we moaned on here about the rooney dive in 2004 for instance? I think there is a chance it would still be interpreted as a foul with VAR, but at least if the game is slowed down then they have done everything in their power to get the correct decision. otherwise we arguing about interpretation of the law which is something that will never be black or white anyway

[goonersid]

Sid stop acting the devil's advocate cùnt ffs!



The problem with VAR is it does not take the stupid human out of the equation. Why delay the game 5 minutes and the decision can still be wrong? One of the many many many things I hate about the homoerotic "sport" of rugby is the fucking stop start tedious slow shitness of it. And this fucking bullshit of the ref announcing his decisions to the entitled pack of closet job cùnts that make up a towel flicker crowd? Fuck off.

Football should flow fast not stop so some fucking idiot can ask some other idiot to watch TV.

Also I love the culture of fans feeling genuinely aggrieved by terrible decisions and that sense of having gotten away with one when you get a dodgy decision. I don't want to watch a cold sterile game that stops and starts but oh hey look those stoppages mean the ref got an extra 10% of his decisions right but still managed to get some fucking wrong.

Fuck that. Fuck VAR.

All wind ups aside, I do want var but I know it needs work. I’d rather 90% of close calls were made correctly with var, than complete pot luck or even bias without it.

[DB10GOONER]

sorry augie but I don't see the argument against VAR at all

last night derby had an offside goal ruled out, the decision was minimal in real time but thanks to VAR it was correctly ruled out, I didn't see the incident in the seconf half you're referring to but in my mind there is no way anyone can ever moan about officials or refereeing ever again unless they're willing to admit we need VAR or any equivalent technology. The game is "human" as you said, but it is still humans making the decisions, they're just slowing the game down.

Of course we can - we moan about keepers, defenders and every other type of player when they fcuk up, so why cant we complain about referee's too ? It isnt as if you are holding up a foolproof method of eradicating mistakes here as an alternative - everywhere we turn we are seeing wrong decisions by var, AND it is also proving to be a slow process on occasions too. In the nfl coaches get 2 (sometimes 3) "challenges" where they can dispute a referee's call in a game, but that is a stop start game anyway so the interference is minimal - fans are already (rightly) complaining about how little actual gametime there is in 90 minutes and how much time wasting there is, and var is only likely to compound those issues imo

because referees aren't on the pitch competing - they're there to officiate the game
they are there to do a job, not entertain or take part in the play. its not interesting to watch decisions being made, they are made because they have to be? i hate this modern culture of celebrity refs, we can do without twats like clattenburg and dowd thinking the game is about them when it isn't.

we need to be having a discussion on how to improve VAR - there are many ways but to argue that because it doesn't get it right 100% time that it is surplus to requirements is absolutely ridiculous in it's lack of logic - it's like arguing we can do without seatbelts because they don't stop fatalities 100% of the time - its still increases the likelyhood of incorrect calls. how many times have we moaned on here about the rooney dive in 2004 for instance? I think there is a chance it would still be interpreted as a foul with VAR, but at least if the game is slowed down then they have done everything in their power to get the correct decision. otherwise we arguing about interpretation of the law which is something that will never be black or white anyway

And you think VAR will reduce the amount of celebrity referee gash we see mate? It will increase it a millionfold ffs. Did you watch the world cup? When cùnts like Jasper and Michael fucking Oliver get hold of it full time the entire match will be about their little moments in the spotlight.

[northbank123]

Would never contemplate supporting VAR until officials have the stones to call out diving even when there is a small amount of contact.

Beyond that it is just going to stop linesmen from sticking up their flag for marginal calls, because they know if they are wrong then VAR will bail them out but if they wrongly put the flag up and stop play then they’ve fucked it.

Finally, one of the problems which they have in rugby (despite operating the system well generally) is going back several phases of play for minor incidents. When VAR comes in it won’t just be whether the goal scorer was offside or whether it was a penalty, you will have VAR checking whether a defender’s shirt was pulled 15 seconds before the goal as he went up for a header.

[northbank123]

Would never contemplate supporting VAR until officials have the stones to call out diving even when there is a small amount of contact.

Beyond that it is just going to stop linesmen from sticking up their flag for marginal calls, because they know if they are wrong then VAR will bail them out but if they wrongly put the flag up and stop play then they’ve fucked it.

Finally, one of the problems which they have in rugby (despite operating the system well generally) is going back several phases of play for minor incidents. When VAR comes in it won’t just be whether the goal scorer was offside or whether it was a penalty, you will have VAR checking whether a defender’s shirt was pulled 15 seconds before the goal as he went up for a header.

[Bradywasking]

Another Salah dive today,didn't get the penalty but didn't get punished either for diving.
Robertson had deliberate handball in the build up to the last goal.. Officials must be operating under strick instructions to help Liverpool atall costs .

[falkirk goon]

Another Salah dive today,didn't get the penalty but didn't get punished either for diving.
Robertson had deliberate handball in the build up to the last goal.. Officials must be operating under strick instructions to help Liverpool atall costs .

They get away with more than anyone else mate that's for sure.*word censored*.

[goonersid]

sorry augie but I don't see the argument against VAR at all

last night derby had an offside goal ruled out, the decision was minimal in real time but thanks to VAR it was correctly ruled out, I didn't see the incident in the seconf half you're referring to but in my mind there is no way anyone can ever moan about officials or refereeing ever again unless they're willing to admit we need VAR or any equivalent technology. The game is "human" as you said, but it is still humans making the decisions, they're just slowing the game down.

Of course we can - we moan about keepers, defenders and every other type of player when they fcuk up, so why cant we complain about referee's too ? It isnt as if you are holding up a foolproof method of eradicating mistakes here as an alternative - everywhere we turn we are seeing wrong decisions by var, AND it is also proving to be a slow process on occasions too. In the nfl coaches get 2 (sometimes 3) "challenges" where they can dispute a referee's call in a game, but that is a stop start game anyway so the interference is minimal - fans are already (rightly) complaining about how little actual gametime there is in 90 minutes and how much time wasting there is, and var is only likely to compound those issues imo

because referees aren't on the pitch competing - they're there to officiate the game
they are there to do a job, not entertain or take part in the play. its not interesting to watch decisions being made, they are made because they have to be? i hate this modern culture of celebrity refs, we can do without twats like clattenburg and dowd thinking the game is about them when it isn't.

we need to be having a discussion on how to improve VAR - there are many ways but to argue that because it doesn't get it right 100% time that it is surplus to requirements is absolutely ridiculous in it's lack of logic - it's like arguing we can do without seatbelts because they don't stop fatalities 100% of the time - its still increases the likelyhood of incorrect calls. how many times have we moaned on here about the rooney dive in 2004 for instance? I think there is a chance it would still be interpreted as a foul with VAR, but at least if the game is slowed down then they have done everything in their power to get the correct decision. otherwise we arguing about interpretation of the law which is something that will never be black or white anyway

And you think VAR will reduce the amount of celebrity referee gash we see mate? It will increase it a millionfold ffs. Did you watch the world cup? When cùnts like Jasper and Michael fucking Oliver get hold of it full time the entire match will be about their little moments in the spotlight.

I think the key to it being s success is to make var decisions remotely like the rugger boys.

[SteveO 35]

Would round off a nice weekend to see the Scum go into meltdown without the windowlicker and that diving bastard Son. Sadly Fulham are an absolute crock of shit and can't see anything over than the Scummers winning

Hopefully City will put another six or seven past Huddersfield to keep the pressure up on the Scousers

[rodders999]

Salah diving AGAIN I see

[falkirk goon]

Salah diving AGAIN I see

Indeed mate,if he was on any other teams books it would be highlighted more.

[augie]

Quality wise, that is as poor/shit a scum line-up as I have seen in a long, long time If that half nazi scum c.unt dier cant get in ahead of winks, then his shitiness has hit a new low

Disappointed to see cairney and sessegnion on the bench for fulham - cairney is a quality player imo, and his creativity gives them a boost when he plays