Other Matches Thread

[John F]

Great post Perry agree with every word.

[wilson2.0]

The scum have lost 11 games in the league and are third. ELEVEN FUCKING GAMES.

They’ve lost 4 times in the CL and are in the semi final.

The game is fucking gone folks. It’s eaten its own arsehole again.

Ive always felt three draws equaling one win is wrong. Whenever there is a draw they say the teams split the points. But they dont do they? Only 2 points are given out.

Is a team better if it wins more games, or loses less games over the course of a season? Same goes for the title race. Liverpool have lost 1 game and City have lost 4. I think Liverpool are more deserving of winning the title. I mean for fuck sake if they drew that game they lose they would be a few games away from going the season unbeaten but in the end could still lose the league title.

3 points for the win is too strong, - it should be 2.

[Clash]

The scum have lost 11 games in the league and are third. ELEVEN FUCKING GAMES.

They’ve lost 4 times in the CL and are in the semi final.

The game is fucking gone folks. It’s eaten its own arsehole again.

Ive always felt three draws equaling one win is wrong. Whenever there is a draw they say the teams split the points. But they dont do they? Only 2 points are given out.

Is a team better if it wins more games, or loses less games over the course of a season? Same goes for the title race. Liverpool have lost 1 game and City have lost 4. I think Liverpool are more deserving of winning the title. I mean for fuck sake if they drew that game they lose they would be a few games away from going the season unbeaten but in the end could still lose the league title.

3 points for the win is too strong, - it should be 2.

It was always 2 points. The English league changed to 3 points around 40 years ago. Other leagues like Spain, Italy and even Scotland eventually followed but it was many years later.

I think 3 points for a win is fair. Teams start every game in a drawing position so they can just kill a game or fail to score or create anything and come away with the point they began with. Going out and winning a game is something that has to be earned more than a draw is.

There may be an argument that a 0-0 only gets you 1 point and a score draw 2 points but then the standard of defending is already getting worse across the world so this wouldn't help encourage teams to defend better.

I say leave things as they are .... and just hope Liverpool fans and players are in tears on the final day. If they lose just one game and still dont win the title ... that'll be even funnier

[Jock Gooner]

The scum have lost 11 games in the league and are third. ELEVEN FUCKING GAMES.

They’ve lost 4 times in the CL and are in the semi final.

The game is fucking gone folks. It’s eaten its own arsehole again.

Ive always felt three draws equaling one win is wrong. Whenever there is a draw they say the teams split the points. But they dont do they? Only 2 points are given out.

Is a team better if it wins more games, or loses less games over the course of a season? Same goes for the title race. Liverpool have lost 1 game and City have lost 4. I think Liverpool are more deserving of winning the title. I mean for fuck sake if they drew that game they lose they would be a few games away from going the season unbeaten but in the end could still lose the league title.

3 points for the win is too strong, - it should be 2.

Hang on mate, 3 points for a win was introduced to increase the incentive for going for a win and therefore to make games more entertaining. A team is judged better over a season if it wins more points than another team - simple. Technically a team could park the bus to ensure they don't lose games (I'm not saying that has happened this season) while a team going for it end up losing a game they should have won - that's football. Over the course of a season the rules are the same for all (except Fergiecu.nt when he was on the go) so how you get the most points is irrelevant. So what if you go undefeated and don't win the league, that simply means you drew too many games instead of winning them.

Do you want the passback to the keeper rule reversed as well

Oh and fuck the victims

[Clash]

The scum have lost 11 games in the league and are third. ELEVEN FUCKING GAMES.

They’ve lost 4 times in the CL and are in the semi final.

The game is fucking gone folks. It’s eaten its own arsehole again.

Group stage football is nearly as bad as away goals..

No infact I'll say it's worse. Bring back the old European cup - KO rounds from the start and no 4th/3rd/2nd place 'champions'.

I completely agree about the group stage.

The SCUM got just 1 point from their first 3 group games. They then had to get an unlikely point away at Barcelona ... except it wasnt so unlikely because Barcelona were already group winners and weren't interested or motivated enough to play a full strength side. Inter and PSV had to play a full strength Barcelona team so even in a 4 team group it isnt a level playing field.

The way the CL is structured is appalling. Group stages, seedings and allowing too many teams from they same nations in at the same time that cannot play each other before the QF's means it rewards failure, allows mediocre teams to survive longer than they should and the same fixtures repeat themselves.

UEFA have been weak in not protecting what they had ... but the counter argument is they did to appease the clubs that were threatening to break away and form their own league. And so like everything else that has been ruined in football, it comes down to money and greed.

[clockender1]

Today is going well so far - united two down already at Everton.

Jenas in the paper this morning- ole the wrong choice for united. No shit

[Gunner Rob]

United losing 4-0 !

thank god Solskajaer was made permanent

[clockender1]

United losing 4-0 !

thank god Solskajaer was made permanent

Oles at the wheel !

[SydneyGooner]

Group stage football is nearly as bad as away goals..

No infact I'll say it's worse. Bring back the old European cup - KO rounds from the start and no 4th/3rd/2nd place 'champions'.

The top two in the European Cup would have been acceptable but allowing four teams in from some leagues and three teams in from leagues which are weak and then two in from absolute shit leagues has made it dull and boring for the most part. I caught the last ten minutes of the scum and city match the other night and that's the most I've watched of this competition in years, apart from our games. I have no interest whatsoever in it unless we are playing and then it's only our match that I want to watch. The bloated format and the fact that nothing really happens for months has driven people away and bored the life out of others. It's a joke that the semi finals of Europe's most important club competition, contains only one team who actually won their domestic league the season before, with two of the other teams not winning it for 29 years and 58 years. That is just not right. If you finish third or fourth in your league, you should be at a severe disadvantage in the next season's champions league. The winners of the top 8 domestic leagues in Europe should get a bye to the knock-outs and the others should be in the group stage battling it out to join them. That would reward success. I will absolutely admit that for years, we were a joke, sneaking in to the competition year after year in 3rd or 4th and going out in the second round. That wasn't right. Something needs to change to make it more 'champions' league than 'league of a few teams from around Europe'.

Great post. This is something that completely does my head in and always made my wonder why UEFA decided to rebrand the European Cup into the "Champions League" when as you said by the end of it there's barely any "champions" in it.

That's why I've always said that should we win ever win the Champions League I hope we win it like Ferguson's great ManUre team of '08 as defending champions of England as part of a League and CL double minimum. IMO you can't lay claim to being the best in Europe otherwise.

[clockender1]

fantastic work by Brentford this afternoon - The Bees beat dirty dirty Leeds 2-0 and effectively ended their automatic promotion to the PL hopes

having denied us the title twice under GG, yes i am still a bitter bastard and have no desire at all to see them back in the top flight.

i hope they get thumped in the play offs. fuck them.

[clockender1]

the chavs can't defend either - its ridiculous really that us, united and the chavs can't defend set pieces or against direct, old fashioned teams with big strikers. so much for attacking full backs and ball playing CB's. not enough quality at the back for any of us.

its 1-1 now, hopefully Burnley will score a few more tho.

[Rian1]

the chavs can't defend either - its ridiculous really that us, united and the chavs can't defend set pieces or against direct, old fashioned teams with big strikers. so much for attacking full backs and ball playing CB's. not enough quality at the back for any of us.

its 1-1 now, hopefully Burnley will score a few more tho.

2-2 at the half. It was a proper shit show for the Chavs but then again we let in 3 24hrs ago so not much difference. I reckon Burnley can pull a shock here and make the race to 3rd very very interesting.

[augie]

I know that this isn't even an adults match much less a professional match, but I thought I would share what I view as a shocking incident in a kids tournament my lad was playing in at the weekend -

My youngest plays under 14 for a big Dublin club, and every easter they hold a tournament (Academy Cup) in which professional clubs participate (this season it was Celtic, Watford, baggies, bayer Leverkusen and ath bilbao and his club). The final was played on sunday in baking heat between bilboa and Leverkusen, and before the game both teams done the whole walking along the line shaking hands with all the opposition players. Ten minutes into the game some of the bilbao players appeared to be in some some distress, and had to go over for attention from their medical staff - it turns out that when the Leverkusen players were shaking hands before the game with their right hands, some had applied dollops of deep heat antisceptic cream to their left hands and had applied it to the back of the necks of a few of the bilbao players without them knowing. Of a normal day that would cause discomfort to any player much less a kid, but can you imagine the discomfort it would cause on a baking hot day ? There was uproar on the sidelines between the two benches and the game was held up for almost 10 minutes before it resumed, and in the end justice was served when bilbao went on to win the cup.

Maybe I am naïve but I'm shocked that this would happen at an under 14 kids game, much less a game between the academies of 2 professional clubs

[Rian1]

I've never seen two sets of teams with the luck of this world: Liverpool this season and the cùnts every season.

Brighton played pretty well and kept a good defensive line only for Eriksen to bag one in at the brink of 90th. Albeit having 29 shots on target, only 4 went on target. Fuck sakes this puts a huge pressure for tomorrow like it wasn't already complicated.

[rodders999]

Agree with that. They have won a shit load of games with late, late goals this season. C.UNTS