Unai Emery

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General wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:05 pm
Is it not strange how some people argued ad nauseum that Kroenke was the problem, he would never sack Wenger, and even if he did the new manager would not succeed unless SK sells up. Suddenly these same people insist that the new manager should be sacked after 16months.
Kroenke is the problem, but unfortunately he is unlikely to sell up, so we have to hope for a new manager to work miracles, clutching at straws?, absolutely, but that is all we have left because KSE have killed the club.

Bored to death of Arsenal in honesty.

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You know what? There aren't many 'good' owners around these days full stop. If Kranky went, who comes in? Some Arab billionaire who wants us as a plaything? Firing managers left right and centre regardless of how good they are? Creating fraudulent sponsorship deals to increase our cash pot? Or maybe someone like Mike Ashley who owns the club but REALLY doesn't give a damn about it? The Glazers? Taking money out of the club left right and centre? Yes they spend money but only because they make a shitload. There's no easy way out, what we have is a long long way from perfect and I'd rather he wasn't the owner but he's not as bad as many others.

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sk-gtfo wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:30 pm
General wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:05 pm
Is it not strange how some people argued ad nauseum that Kroenke was the problem, he would never sack Wenger, and even if he did the new manager would not succeed unless SK sells up. Suddenly these same people insist that the new manager should be sacked after 16months.
Kroenke is the problem, but unfortunately he is unlikely to sell up, so we have to hope for a new manager to work miracles, clutching at straws?, absolutely, but that is all we have left because KSE have killed the club.

Bored to death of Arsenal in honesty.
I will reserve judgement on SK until I see the level of backing he gives the new manager over a sensible period. The same fans who undermined the Wenger out campaign because they steadfastly believed it was futile and Kroenke was the problem cannot suddenly change tact and target Emery after 16months in the job. Kroenke has become a footnote in their determination to drive out Emery and frankly I'm not surprised. The nauseating 'we care do you campaign' at the start of the season had all the indicia of a fansbase that has become self indulgent and confused. Expectations are increasingly unrealistic with barely 3months of the season gone, in turn driving a capricious mood for change.

The reality is the performance of this team is consistent with the quality of the squad. Emery is not without his flaws but he inherited a mess and that's a fact. The longer Wenger stayed on the harder it became for his predecessor and what we are witnessing is a simple manifestation of this. Rivals have improved and the traditional midtable clubs have closed the gap thanks to the increase in TV money. Leicester's midfield for example is not only better than ours but it is also more expensive. Tielemans, a player who in the past would've ended up in one of the top sides, cost £40m. So let's gain some perspective and stop this nonsense.

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Honestly.
I'd pick Ozil over Emery to remain at our club any day of the week with a Y in it

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:09 pm
augie wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:42 pm
goonersid wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:43 pm
Thing is Augie, the players have realised that Emery is fucking clueless, that is why he faces a mutiny


The players realized wenger was useless but there was no mutiny then. There is a munity now cos the players can sense that emery is not safe in his job and they are taking advantage of that imo. There will always be players at clubs that will feel disgruntled/angry/whatever, but most of the time it doesn't escalate to this, and for me it says a lot about the character of a player that is quite happy to bring things to it's knees - most people that feel aggrieved with their bosses in their jobs will have it out with their boss and/or will look to go to a different job, but these c.unts appear to be ganging together to drag the club into a mess and that is totally unacceptable to me.
I'll be honest and say that I have never looked at wrighty the same way after the way he behaved in getting rioch sacked - I'm not saying that he didn't have genuine reason to want rioch out, but the way he dealt with has never sat easy with me and it lessened my respect for the man. I feel that what we now have is a similar scenario only on a bigger scale - they don't like/respect emery and want to force him out, but what happens if they don't like/respect the next guy either ? The club must ALWAYS come first and allowing players to dictate is in conflict with that imo
All this is based on what exactly?
I'm sending him subliminal messages late at night DB he can't resist .
You would have to be an extreme optimist to suggest that all is happy and well within the camp !

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Herd wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:30 am
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:09 pm
augie wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:42 pm
goonersid wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:43 pm
Thing is Augie, the players have realised that Emery is fucking clueless, that is why he faces a mutiny


The players realized wenger was useless but there was no mutiny then. There is a munity now cos the players can sense that emery is not safe in his job and they are taking advantage of that imo. There will always be players at clubs that will feel disgruntled/angry/whatever, but most of the time it doesn't escalate to this, and for me it says a lot about the character of a player that is quite happy to bring things to it's knees - most people that feel aggrieved with their bosses in their jobs will have it out with their boss and/or will look to go to a different job, but these c.unts appear to be ganging together to drag the club into a mess and that is totally unacceptable to me.
I'll be honest and say that I have never looked at wrighty the same way after the way he behaved in getting rioch sacked - I'm not saying that he didn't have genuine reason to want rioch out, but the way he dealt with has never sat easy with me and it lessened my respect for the man. I feel that what we now have is a similar scenario only on a bigger scale - they don't like/respect emery and want to force him out, but what happens if they don't like/respect the next guy either ? The club must ALWAYS come first and allowing players to dictate is in conflict with that imo
All this is based on what exactly?
I'm sending him subliminal messages late at night DB he can't resist .
You would have to be an extreme optimist to suggest that all is happy and well within the camp !



That was my feeling too - I have always preached to my lads the importance of body language on the pitch and what it says about you, and I don't think that it is a big reach to suggest that our players body language is not looking at all positive.
Again I know that it is only media speculation until proven otherwise, but the fact that xhaka STILL hasn't been demoted from the captain's job, does suggest that there is opposition to the move behind the scenes, and that opposition must be coming from the players surely - emery is smart enough to know that he is coming under increased scrutiny from the fans, so he cant afford to be seen to disregard the serious blow back on xhakas actions - however he knows that his fate will be more heavily influenced by the players, and imo his lack of decisive action on this thus far is cos of a fear of a fallout with the players.

I continue to say that we need a change of manager now, but on this one particular issue (the captaincy) I do feel for emery - xhaka should be out in the cold by now, but emery is being put into a please the fans or please the players scenario, and that is a real tough place for him to be - personally I think that he has lost too much of the support from both factions to turn it around anyway, and I feel that if he bows to either side it will only pacify them for a short while and they will soon be forcing him out the door anyway

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Just think of the festive atmosphere at the Corporates on Saturday ,it will be a wonderful family affair .
Theres plenty of people out there struggling to make ends meet and feed their families but this super rich talentless wanker throws a strop
and he's offered counselling ,you couldn't make this shit up .
I bet you Xhaka is rested or has picked up an injury and won't not even be present in the stadium this Saturday,if he does that's the end of him at Arsenal, however if he even has the balls to play or better still hold up a banner saying sorry ,he will win my respect for at least being a man about it !
The Club have made a huge issue of this on the website ,for me it's another rod for the back of the manager whose reign I think will soon be over .

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Herd wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:30 am
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:09 pm
augie wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:42 pm
goonersid wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:43 pm
Thing is Augie, the players have realised that Emery is fucking clueless, that is why he faces a mutiny


The players realized wenger was useless but there was no mutiny then. There is a munity now cos the players can sense that emery is not safe in his job and they are taking advantage of that imo. There will always be players at clubs that will feel disgruntled/angry/whatever, but most of the time it doesn't escalate to this, and for me it says a lot about the character of a player that is quite happy to bring things to it's knees - most people that feel aggrieved with their bosses in their jobs will have it out with their boss and/or will look to go to a different job, but these c.unts appear to be ganging together to drag the club into a mess and that is totally unacceptable to me.
I'll be honest and say that I have never looked at wrighty the same way after the way he behaved in getting rioch sacked - I'm not saying that he didn't have genuine reason to want rioch out, but the way he dealt with has never sat easy with me and it lessened my respect for the man. I feel that what we now have is a similar scenario only on a bigger scale - they don't like/respect emery and want to force him out, but what happens if they don't like/respect the next guy either ? The club must ALWAYS come first and allowing players to dictate is in conflict with that imo
All this is based on what exactly?
I'm sending him subliminal messages late at night DB he can't resist .
You would have to be an extreme optimist to suggest that all is happy and well within the camp !
I don't think anyone has suggested all is happy and well within the camp, but augie has made accusations there that are quite involved and specific I think you'd agree? He may be 100% right but I feel it's only part of it, the player disharmony. Part of it might just be down to something as simple as Dick being a weak indecisive manager.

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He’s been cut to 9/1 :barscarf: just hope southampton can get a result and take pressure off Ralph whatever his name is ?

My £20 at 25/1 looking better everyday

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:27 pm
Herd wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:30 am
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:09 pm
augie wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:42 pm
goonersid wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:43 pm
Thing is Augie, the players have realised that Emery is fucking clueless, that is why he faces a mutiny


The players realized wenger was useless but there was no mutiny then. There is a munity now cos the players can sense that emery is not safe in his job and they are taking advantage of that imo. There will always be players at clubs that will feel disgruntled/angry/whatever, but most of the time it doesn't escalate to this, and for me it says a lot about the character of a player that is quite happy to bring things to it's knees - most people that feel aggrieved with their bosses in their jobs will have it out with their boss and/or will look to go to a different job, but these c.unts appear to be ganging together to drag the club into a mess and that is totally unacceptable to me.
I'll be honest and say that I have never looked at wrighty the same way after the way he behaved in getting rioch sacked - I'm not saying that he didn't have genuine reason to want rioch out, but the way he dealt with has never sat easy with me and it lessened my respect for the man. I feel that what we now have is a similar scenario only on a bigger scale - they don't like/respect emery and want to force him out, but what happens if they don't like/respect the next guy either ? The club must ALWAYS come first and allowing players to dictate is in conflict with that imo
All this is based on what exactly?
I'm sending him subliminal messages late at night DB he can't resist .
You would have to be an extreme optimist to suggest that all is happy and well within the camp !
I don't think anyone has suggested all is happy and well within the camp, but augie has made accusations there that are quite involved and specific I think you'd agree? He may be 100% right but I feel it's only part of it, the player disharmony. Part of it might just be down to something as simple as Dick being a weak indecisive manager.



Augie never suggested how many are involved - augie suspects that ozil for sure and possibly laca, auba and kolasniac are involved. As I said, I never put it up as a definitive and it is merely what I believe to be the case

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Mourinho to Arsenal is trending on twitter 8)

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:06 pm
Mourinho to Arsenal is trending on twitter 8)
Please nooooooooooo

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:06 pm
Mourinho to Arsenal is trending on twitter 8)
Good Lord NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

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Herd wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:51 pm
Just think of the festive atmosphere at the Corporates on Saturday ,it will be a wonderful family affair .
Theres plenty of people out there struggling to make ends meet and feed their families but this super rich talentless wanker throws a strop
and he's offered counselling ,you couldn't make this shit up .
I bet you Xhaka is rested or has picked up an injury and won't not even be present in the stadium this Saturday,if he does that's the end of him at Arsenal, however if he even has the balls to play or better still hold up a banner saying sorry ,he will win my respect for at least being a man about it !
The Club have made a huge issue of this on the website ,for me it's another rod for the back of the manager whose reign I think will soon be over .
The abuse has been going on for months now. His wife has recently given birth (days) and you have idiots sending him death threats and saying they hope his child dies etc. One of the worst fanbases in football can give out but cannot take. He has nothing to say sorry for.

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