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When he put on Willian last night that was probably the tipping point for me into the Arteta out camp.
I won’t be fully Arteta out whilst we remain in the Europa though.
I’m quite happy to back team and manager whilst winning that is a possibility - if/when we get knocked out that is a different matter.
I've never understood this viewpoint Rob. I want to win the EL but I also want Martinez-Lite gone ASAP. The two are not mutually exclusive.
But they are "mutually exclusive"
If we win Elge, you are calling for a successful manager to be sacked!
You can't have your cake and eat it DB!
It's one or the other!
Losing to the pathetic wretch that is Unai Emery, could prove a mantle that Arteta can't shake off!
No they are not mutually exclusive. I want Arteta gone. In the meantime I want Arsenal to win trophies. I don't care who wins those trophies for us. If Arteta gets his shit together and starts winning major trophies (very unlikely) then I'd have no problem with him staying. Equally I've no problem with him being sacked and a caretaker managing us for the final - if we get that far.
I'm not so wrapped up in my Internet persona that I want the man to fail just to prove me right on a forum ffs. The most important thing is winning trophies.
Bollocks! You either want him gone or you dont!
Internet persona? Get a fucking grip!!
Who win the chavs the FA cup and champions League the same season?
Roberto Di Matteo. How long did he last as their manager the following season? Lasted until October. That's right no messing around with Roman.
If Arteta gets the Europa League, does it means he stays
When he put on Willian last night that was probably the tipping point for me into the Arteta out camp.
I won’t be fully Arteta out whilst we remain in the Europa though.
I’m quite happy to back team and manager whilst winning that is a possibility - if/when we get knocked out that is a different matter.
I've never understood this viewpoint Rob. I want to win the EL but I also want Martinez-Lite gone ASAP. The two are not mutually exclusive.
But they are "mutually exclusive"
If we win Elge, you are calling for a successful manager to be sacked!
You can't have your cake and eat it DB!
It's one or the other!
Losing to the pathetic wretch that is Unai Emery, could prove a mantle that Arteta can't shake off!
No they are not mutually exclusive. I want Arteta gone. In the meantime I want Arsenal to win trophies. I don't care who wins those trophies for us. If Arteta gets his shit together and starts winning major trophies (very unlikely) then I'd have no problem with him staying. Equally I've no problem with him being sacked and a caretaker managing us for the final - if we get that far.
I'm not so wrapped up in my Internet persona that I want the man to fail just to prove me right on a forum ffs. The most important thing is winning trophies.
Bollocks! You either want him gone or you dont!
Internet persona? Get a fucking grip!!
I've never understood this viewpoint Rob. I want to win the EL but I also want Martinez-Lite gone ASAP. The two are not mutually exclusive.
But they are "mutually exclusive"
If we win Elge, you are calling for a successful manager to be sacked!
You can't have your cake and eat it DB!
It's one or the other!
Losing to the pathetic wretch that is Unai Emery, could prove a mantle that Arteta can't shake off!
No they are not mutually exclusive. I want Arteta gone. In the meantime I want Arsenal to win trophies. I don't care who wins those trophies for us. If Arteta gets his shit together and starts winning major trophies (very unlikely) then I'd have no problem with him staying. Equally I've no problem with him being sacked and a caretaker managing us for the final - if we get that far.
I'm not so wrapped up in my Internet persona that I want the man to fail just to prove me right on a forum ffs. The most important thing is winning trophies.
Bollocks! You either want him gone or you dont!
Internet persona? Get a fucking grip!!
Who win the chavs the FA cup and champions League the same season?
Roberto Di Matteo. How long did he last as their manager the following season? Lasted until October. That's right no messing around with Roman.
If Arteta gets the Europa League, does it means he stays
But wasn't DiMatteo only ever a caretaker that came in a week or something before the first cup final? That's how I remember it anyway! Either way I don't think he was ever intended to be the long term option.
Who win the chavs the FA cup and champions League the same season?
Roberto Di Matteo. How long did he last as their manager the following season? Lasted until October. That's right no messing around with Roman.
If Arteta gets the Europa League, does it means he stays
But wasn't DiMatteo only ever a caretaker that came in a week or something before the first cup final? That's how I remember it anyway! Either way I don't think he was ever intended to be the long term option.
He took on the job in early March when AVB got the elbow, and was a caretaker for the rest of that season. They gave him a 2 year contract and appointed him permanently at the end of the season. By November they had punted him - a man who won the trophy that Maureen and others had failed to land for them, and have failed since. Imagine us doing that with Arteta! And we're talking here about the second prize in Europe too - a cup where anything less than reaching the final is failure.
People may knock the Chavs approach but it has brought them a lot of success (yes of course the money is a massive part of that). Also seeing the vermin fire Maureen before their cup final and first chance to win anything for 13 years
The owners knew those managers were taking those clubs backwards. Our lot are sticking with a tit who has given us our worst start for 45 years on the back of the FA Cup and a potential final in the European equivalent of the League Cup. Chelsea and Spurs would have fired his ass long ago, as would the Mickeys or the Mancs. Sad but true. if winning the FA Cup is the only yardstick and reaching the semi of the EL we might as well have stuck with Wenger!
I suspect the wolves manager will leave them in the summer - the old "taken them as far as he can" adage springs to mind. Again he wouldnt be my first choice if arteta was sacked, but no doubt he would be a massive upgrade on pep's cone boy
I think Arteta could well have the makings of very good football manager - in the future, but as Clummo rightly said he needs to have cut his managerial teeth somewhere else; perhaps in the League 1 or the Championship before taking on the challenge of a Prem Club, but for them to appoint him as Arsenal manager his first managerial job - with Arsenal; a HUGE club with a HUGE History was negligent in the extreme. and whilst I blame him for what is happening, I think the board and KuntaKroenke is MORE to blame.
My last words on this thread!!
The club see Arteta as a project, one in which they are willing to accept a certain amount of disappointing results, in belief it will come good!
Winning the Elge, will only instill that belief.
It will bring undecided fans back on Arteta's side, where a 12th spot plge finish and elge exit at the hands of a twit, some still think should be in charge, can surely only have him under pressure from opening match day next season!
My last words on this thread!!
The club see Arteta as a project, one in which they are willing to accept a certain amount of disappointing results, in belief it will come good!
Winning the Elge, will only instill that belief.
It will bring undecided fans back on Arteta's side, where a 12th spot plge finish and elge exit at the hands of a twit, some still think should be in charge, can surely only have him under pressure from opening match day next season!
I wonder if the kroenke's would be more willing to throw arteta under the bus now in a bid to take focus off them and the super league fiasco
My last words on this thread!!
The club see Arteta as a project, one in which they are willing to accept a certain amount of disappointing results, in belief it will come good!
Winning the Elge, will only instill that belief.
It will bring undecided fans back on Arteta's side, where a 12th spot plge finish and elge exit at the hands of a twit, some still think should be in charge, can surely only have him under pressure from opening match day next season!
I wonder if the kroenke's would be more willing to throw arteta under the bus now in a bid to take focus off them and the super league fiasco
There is NOTHING absolutely NOTHING that kuntaKroenke won't do to
Preserve his Profit and keep his name, face & wig out of the limelight
My last words on this thread!!
The club see Arteta as a project, one in which they are willing to accept a certain amount of disappointing results, in belief it will come good!
Winning the Elge, will only instill that belief.
It will bring undecided fans back on Arteta's side, where a 12th spot plge finish and elge exit at the hands of a twit, some still think should be in charge, can surely only have him under pressure from opening match day next season!
I wonder if the kroenke's would be more willing to throw arteta under the bus now in a bid to take focus off them and the super league fiasco
Tbh I think there is more chance of that than the results dictating they sack him. I think the Kroenkes would leave Martinez-Lite in charge indefinitely so long as he doesn't get us relegated (he won't) and doesn't ask them for 500million to rebuild (he won't). Wiggy likes to own things like football clubs, he doesn't give a fuck about the clubs winning trophies once the clubs are in the big leagues and he can point at them and say "I own that".
My last words on this thread!!
The club see Arteta as a project, one in which they are willing to accept a certain amount of disappointing results, in belief it will come good!
Winning the Elge, will only instill that belief.
It will bring undecided fans back on Arteta's side, where a 12th spot plge finish and elge exit at the hands of a twit, some still think should be in charge, can surely only have him under pressure from opening match day next season!
This, exactly, which is why I am so conflicted over the Europa. In fact, I'd say that a 10th place finish and a loss in the final should be enough to get rid of him.
Either way I don't think he was ever intended to be the long term option.
