Mikel Arteta, success or failure? - Merged thread.

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Will he ?

Have a statue erected after 30 glorious years service?
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9%
Be a success, pick up a few trophies and put the club back on an even keel?
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27%
Be a moderate success, before handing over to a more high profile successor?
20
20%
Be an utter fucking disaster?
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44%
 
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SteveO 35 wrote:
Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:47 pm
I sincerely hope this is a post that is held up and ridiculed for years to come....

I can't fucking stand what we've become under this manager. A bunch of trendy beard c.unts without any soul and clinging to fucktard rhetoric about "transitions","personality" and "lacking urgency".

Get the fuck out carpet head. You've convinced 50 per cent of Gooners you're the man, and 90 per cent that you're better than the last man....but fuck me, all I see is Wenger lite and the performances that remind me of every reason I wanted him out for almost a decade

Please fuck off and let us hire a proper GG character
I hope you are proven very wrong SteveO. Despite childlike accusations of "agendas" and such shit all I - and most of us - want is a successful Arsenal or at least one that competes! Unfortunately I think you will not be proven wrong.

I've said it many times, Emery was not the right man for the job, he failed. But he was still better than Martinez-Lite. I will continue to believe that unless Martinez-Lite can prove me wrong and take fourth place this season. Not next season or the one after that. This season. Enough excuses. Next season and the one after that we have to be challenging for the title otherwise he too is the wrong man for the job. He's had enough time and he has minimised the squad to the extent if he fails he can blame no one but himself.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:21 am
SteveO 35 wrote:
Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:47 pm
I sincerely hope this is a post that is held up and ridiculed for years to come....

I can't fucking stand what we've become under this manager. A bunch of trendy beard c.unts without any soul and clinging to fucktard rhetoric about "transitions","personality" and "lacking urgency".

Get the fuck out carpet head. You've convinced 50 per cent of Gooners you're the man, and 90 per cent that you're better than the last man....but fuck me, all I see is Wenger lite and the performances that remind me of every reason I wanted him out for almost a decade

Please fuck off and let us hire a proper GG character
I hope you are proven very wrong SteveO. Despite childlike accusations of "agendas" and such shit all I - and most of us - want is a successful Arsenal or at least one that competes! Unfortunately I think you will not be proven wrong.

I've said it many times, Emery was not the right man for the job, he failed. But he was still better than Martinez-Lite. I will continue to believe that unless Martinez-Lite can prove me wrong and take fourth place this season. Not next season or the one after that. This season. Enough excuses. Next season and the one after that we have to be challenging for the title otherwise he too is the wrong man for the job. He's had enough time and he has minimised the squad to the extent if he fails he can blame no one but himself.
If he can't do it this season then God only knows what the excuses could be. He's spent more than any Arsenal manager in a year, had less games to play, a small handful of injuries when compared to the crippling lists of years gone by, and by and large had a level of support from inside the club that hasn't been seen in a decade

On top of that this rivals for 4th are on their second managers of the season, and a West Ham team with an even smaller squad than ours going deep into the Europa League

Rangnick won't be Man Ure's manager next season and one day they'll have to get it right. Liverpool and City will be number 1 and 2 for some time to come, and Chavski will still probably have the same nucleus of players that have seen them as CL winners even if some of the crass spending days are over. Conte - will he won't he? If they beat us to 4th then one imagines he will stay and be backed

Next season I think even pessimistic me would concede will have some form of European football even if it ended up being the Conference. At that point we need 25 players as we will be playing significantly more than 50 games

If he can't do it this season given all of the above, you wonder under what circumstances he would do it?

I also think he will be the manager that Wenger was in 2008-09 - always 2 or 3 players away from something, always spells where you believe it might just happen....before ultimately capitulating and then eventually seeing the better talents leave when they get to 25ish and realise they won't be winning stuff with us

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You're both mentally ill!

Struggling to get 4th place with 0 distractions and the biggest spend in europe is a wonderful effort and clear sign of progress. We have Shankly, Fergie, wenge'sr and cloughs lovechild at the helm don't you realize??? Trust the facking process you ungrateful cu.nts!

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the playing mantis wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:31 pm
You're both mentally ill!

Struggling to get 4th place with 0 distractions and the biggest spend in europe is a wonderful effort and clear sign of progress. We have Shankly, Fergie, wenge'sr and cloughs lovechild at the helm don't you realize??? Trust the facking process you ungrateful cu.nts!
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DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:46 pm
the playing mantis wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:31 pm
You're both mentally ill!

Struggling to get 4th place with 0 distractions and the biggest spend in europe is a wonderful effort and clear sign of progress. We have Shankly, Fergie, wenge'sr and cloughs lovechild at the helm don't you realize??? Trust the facking process you ungrateful cu.nts!
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the playing mantis wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:37 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:46 pm
the playing mantis wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:31 pm
You're both mentally ill!

Struggling to get 4th place with 0 distractions and the biggest spend in europe is a wonderful effort and clear sign of progress. We have Shankly, Fergie, wenge'sr and cloughs lovechild at the helm don't you realize??? Trust the facking process you ungrateful cu.nts!
:lol:

Stop grooming me!! :shock:


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Don't worry that hasn't started...yet..... :shock: :shock: :shock: :gayflag:

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If the previous manager was a bottle job then this bloke is off the scale.

Arsenal 1 Brighton/Palace 5

Get the fuck out of our club and take your Wenger paperweight mentality with you. Never was and never will be the right man for the job

A desperate experiment that has failed at all levels - including financially where we've backed this prize tool with 160m to become an imitation of Brenda's bottlejobs

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:59 pm
If the previous manager was a bottle job then this bloke is off the scale.

Arsenal 1 Brighton/Palace 5

Get the fuck out of our club and take your Wenger paperweight mentality with you. Never was and never will be the right man for the job

A desperate experiment that has failed at all levels - including financially where we've backed this prize tool with 160m to become an imitation of Brenda's bottlejobs
I finally reluctantly agree that Arteta must go.

Wenger survived for so long due to that “invincibles” season which with every passing year I think did more harm than good.
My overriding memory of that season is actually Wayne Bridge scoring the winner for Chelsea against us in the CL.

Arteta has conned a lot of the fanbase due to winning the FA Cup in his first season.
But…this was largely down to the pandemic. Had the FA cup QF happened when it was supposed to we would very likely have lost.
We got very lucky with Aubamayang playing for a new contract and Martinez hitting the purple patch of his career. Arteta though took the credit - funny however that in every single cup competition since we have failed miserably.

I have only stuck with Arteta because I thought the clueless idiots at the club wouldn’t be able to get anyone better. I was wrong - any other manager in the PL would be doing better with the players we have at the club. get out now!

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He's now at the point where he is actually not just worse than Emery was towards the end, but also worse than Wenger was ffs. :roll:

I never ever in my life imagined the huge legendary club Arsenal would one day be managed by a clueless novice. How the mighty have fallen. :x

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It's insane the comparisons it is to Wenger.

Mental tactics and the fan base split down the middle.

I had a blazing row with my brother about legohead. Brother saying that it's because I don't like the man :lol: and to give him time because there is obvious change.

I said to him that there's no chance he'll get top 4.

My brother has been very quiet this week.

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What happened to the guy that lost 3-2 to Palace and drew 1-1 with Brighton

You know...bottlejob and all that. Easiest run in ever. Lost an EL final

Worked out fucking well hasn't it ?

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I think a lot of people have been giving Arteta a pass because they like the commitment and passion that’s been shown by this young group of players: ESR, Saka, Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, Martineloi etc. This team does seem to give a shit (generally speaking: which is a rarity over the last 15 years - and it’s such a novelty that we’ve been willing to overlook the fact that the team isn’t actually very good and Arteta isn’t doing much of a job at making it/them any better. It’s hard to make an argument for another season right now. We’re producing nothing attack wise. We’re basically going to have to start again at Square One - if we do ever actually sign a striker.

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cameron326 wrote:
Sat Apr 09, 2022 6:23 pm
I think a lot of people have been giving Arteta a pass because they like the commitment and passion that’s been shown by this young group of players: ESR, Saka, Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, Martineloi etc. This team does seem to give a shit (generally speaking: which is a rarity over the last 15 years - and it’s such a novelty that we’ve been willing to overlook the fact that the team isn’t actually very good and Arteta isn’t doing much of a job at making it/them any better. It’s hard to make an argument for another season right now. We’re producing nothing attack wise. We’re basically going to have to start again at Square One - if we do ever actually sign a striker.
GG trusted in youth. He also blasted out a load of prima donna c.unts

He also believed in Smith, Marwood, Richardson and O'Leary and without them we'd have won fuck all

This c.unt believes in a kindergarten licking his fucking arse and hasn't heard of the word leadership

It's so farcical that if someone told me Wenger was back for the rest of the season I'd actually celebrate

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All I can add is that we all know c.unt chops is going nowhere

There will be little 8-10 game runs at points of next season where the kids will be flying and the expectation will grow

However it will never end well *



* Unless he signs three 28-32 year old winners in the spine of the team. And he won't. So it won't

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